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April 21, 2021, 12:50:12 AM

For my 10,000th post I started a thread encapsuling my 10 favorite Bitcointalk moments... Due to time constraints I've only done 3 so far, but one of them was my first post on the WO... If you're utterly disinterested just keep swiping:


It was a cold November night and BTC was tanking thanks to the fallout from the Bcash Civil War, crashing into the $3,000s. I was wondering how much lower could this thing go and decided to poke my head into the WO to see if I could gather any intelligence. Instead what I found was a good-humored band of chaps making the most of the situation. Nobody was panicking or losing their shit, and that was reassuring. Their long-term outlook seemed wisened, but they were also wise-guys as well.

Reading this thread right now is like watching Statler and Waldorf narrate the apocalypse.



Glad to be here.

Reading this thread right now is like watching Statler and Waldorf narrate the apocalypse.



Glad to be here.

"It's like a kind of torture...to have to watch this show"

TBC...

Then days later theymos popped in to say the lowest BTC could go was ~$700, and that shit hit hard. Thankfully we came nowhere near that.
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April 21, 2021, 12:54:30 AM

Perfect example of a Dogecoin holder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSpQx-U989o

What a fucking carry on. I would have given up after 3 - 4 attempts.

I watched the entire thing with countless adverts in between.

No joke one of the early adverts was for headache tablets. I can see why!

Now back to Jack Vale fart videos.

Ads? Man, Adblock is really nice in getting rid of that. Without it I don't think it would be possible to watch UTube.

But yes, it fits the mentality of a DOGE HODLer (every minute your coins are worth LESS!!!) perfectly.

Was watching it on my phone that one, on my desktop without adblock I wouldn't even bother with youtube.

I bet at least 75% of people who bought in don't even know about the Doge inflation.
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April 21, 2021, 01:14:16 AM

All I see is positive news but the price is meh. I know I’m being ungrateful & greedy,

Seems that you are being a wee bit ungrateful and greedy.

Sure when we were in the top of the range, $59k to $65k-ish, it just does not seem to be a place to hang out for very long, so from there, $59k to $65k-ish, there was a kind of imperative to either go up or go down.. because we just cannot be hanging out at the top of the range.

Who knows how long we could be hanging out in the $50ks (yes, I understand that we already spent a decent amount of time here in the past couple of months (or maybe just the past 6 weeks), but sure does seem like a long time hanging out in the $50ks, but this spot would not be a too bad of a place to even hang out for a few more months.  

We could call it stable prices.  People love stable prices, but sure it is NOT likely a long term place that we will be hanging out, even if it could be possible to hang out here for a decent amount of additional time in the medium term.. if we are calling 2-3 months "medium" term?


if you told me last April we’d be in the mid $50,000’s a year from then I’d have been delighted.
Surely you would have.. we had a lot of seeming reasonable peeps suggesting a couple of years or more just to get back above $10k - which surely seemed troublesome at the time, but NOT completely out of the realms of possible outcomes - despite some of our more convincing BTC price prediction models showing otherwise - and so those of us who had been meaningfully and adequately pee paring our lil selfies for UPpity were able to substantially and materially (even though it may be appearing to be ONLY on paper if we have not cashed out our lil selfies).

Even if our profits might ONLY seem to be on paper to some, many of us can really feel that we have materially and psychologically benefitted from the BTC price violence of 5x to 6x+ since September - even though it is no longer feeling like 6x+ at this particular moment... but there still feels some decent amount of knowing that we could cash out some or all of our BTC, even at these here prices.. and NOT too bothered about it.

Yes, we  might get a bit more stressed if BTC prices were to correct further into the lower $40ks, which is NOT greatly out of the question, even if it might NOT feel like it has high likelihoods of happening in the coming months.
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I don't know, and I do not care too much, even if I share similar preferences as you towards UPpity rather than flat or experiencing more or less normal kinds of consolidations or corrections that remain decent possibilities.

I am NOT even saying that there has to be further BTC corrections for some of the known shitcoin and DEFI froth to go through some meaningful purgenings.

Who knows?  Who knows?

Even though many of us know that there remain decent amounts of upside BTC potential, we also likely realize that there may well be some weakhands to purge from btitcoinlandia, too.  Don't know.  Don't know, and whatevers.

I keep expecting an imminent, explosive move up but nothing doing yet.

Sure.   I was starting to feel like it was going to continue UPpity.. and sure, it still could, but we could also be a wee bit ahead of schedule, too.. I don't claim to know much of anything, but I do get the sense that BTC prices do not tend to go straight UPpity, even if there are a lot of people who honestly, sincerely and with all of their heart blah blah blah believe in supercycle blah blah blah..

Yeah, supercycle might happen, but then again, it might not... at least not now and not even for another cycle or two, if it does.... in spite of our having a decent amount of information that there are likely more and more institutions and BIGGER players getting into bitcoin.... Those BIGGER players and institutions might even have some desires (and even potentially have some tools available) to remove some coins from retail (those who might not have patience to experience their up and coming richie status (but only if they HODL - but they might NOT be able to.. 5x to 6x profits for some of those short-termers, as a sure thingie, in their lil pockets, all they have to do is hit the sell button.

Have you ever had 5x to 6x returns in less than a year..? and isn't it tempting to sell, especially if you don't know what the fuck you are investing in.. and if you value your wealth in dollars and the prices appear to be going down (not UP as promised)?  What if you could sell and buy back lower.. there's that, too.  hahahahahha  good luck.
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April 21, 2021, 02:51:41 AM

Good morning WO... Please welcome our old friend $56k!!!



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April 21, 2021, 03:01:06 AM

Things appear to be kind of stable.  
Hoping for this to level at 55k-65k for a month or so.

Nope!!!!

You are wwwwwwrrrrrrooooooonnnnnnnngggggg!

I heard somewhere that we are getting $70k for sure by May 1 (May 1, is less than one month from now).  


So go suck an egg.


It would be nice for Doge to stay over 30 cents.

Huh?  No it wouldn't.  That thing probably does not even have a value of $.003.. so I hardly would find it nice to continue to be inflated 100x or more of its value, assuming that it might have some value.


For the year as I can get a lot of btc from it with mining of it.

Still does not seem to be a good thing to hope for, even if you personally profit from such nonsense.


Each couple of days I sell it and convert it BTC.
Last 2 days I sold 282 usd worth of it for BTC.

Just because you get BTC for that crapola, does not seem to make it a BTC topic.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

We need a DOGE rug-pull ASAP.

We've needed a tether rug-pull much longer and more urgently and it's never come.

Tether is hardly even comparable.. so get the fuck out of here with those false comparisons.

Ripple kinda had one but it wasn't enough.

Agree about Ripple being nearly pure crap, but it still does not want to die.. and within the last week or two, they won a ruling against the US Gov.. so they have a bit of strut in their step recently.  Piece of crap.


Heck, the devs had to go out of their way to periodically deliberately rug-pull testnet Bitcoin because it started gaining value.

It is funny that there is a kind of tendency for putting value in some of these matters, and that is a good point about the BTC testnet coins starting to gain value, richy.

Happy 4/20 you guys!

Was this the bottom perhaps?

Speaking of bottoms, check this out.



If you read this on your phone, gently shake your phone. It's pretty cool.

Who cannot appreciate a moving bottom in these here times?

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Instead of taking the race bait which is what the media and pathetic politicians want, I would like to say something about a person that actually mattered to me:

Rest in peace Jim Steinman.

Songwriter extraordinaire.

Salute!




I was more a fan of his Marvin/Meatloaf work than Bonnie Tyler, but yes, an amazing guy.
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April 21, 2021, 03:23:57 AM

Things appear to be kind of stable.  
Hoping for this to level at 55k-65k for a month or so.

Nope!!!!

You are wwwwwwrrrrrrooooooonnnnnnnngggggg!

I heard somewhere that we are getting $70k for sure by May 1 (May 1, is less than one month from now).  


So go suck an egg.


It would be nice for Doge to stay over 30 cents.

Huh?  No it wouldn't.  That thing probably does not even have a value of $.003.. so I hardly would find it nice to continue to be inflated 100x or more of its value, assuming that it might have some value.


For the year as I can get a lot of btc from it with mining of it.

Still does not seem to be a good thing to hope for, even if you personally profit from such nonsense.


Each couple of days I sell it and convert it BTC.
Last 2 days I sold 282 usd worth of it for BTC.

Just because you get BTC for that crapola, does not seem to make it a BTC topic.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


We need a DOGE rug-pull ASAP.

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Ripple kinda had one but it wasn't enough.
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Rug pulls are not needed. As for 70k by May 1 for sure.  I stand by that guess.

But If I were waving a magic wand I prefer

BTC to go 55k-65k for at least 2 months
DOGE to stand strong  for at least 2 months.

If you buy and Hodl BTC you can get in at a good price before the amazing take off it does.

and I can stack 2 or 3 hundred a week for the next 8 weeks with the doge I sell.

The LTC/DOGE miners are mining
The gpus are mining
The BTC asics are mining

I am stacking BTc for all of the above.

Everyone else on this board should be stacking BTC while they can.

They will look back at this month the first month in the History of BTC to stay above 50k each and every day as the last chance they ever had to get cheap BTC.

That is why I am hoping for 2 months of flatness knowing it will peak soon.
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April 21, 2021, 03:39:20 AM

This cycle feels different.
It started not as others with a "premature" summer 2019 bump, it continues on a strange trajectory. No super pumps followed by plunges.
We seem to be decelerating now at a level last seen in early February. A "flat with pimples"?

You come up with some doosies.. biodoosy.

First, no two cycles should look the same, even if many times we seem to be getting a lot of eery similarities, but king daddy is not constricted to such formulaic price moves whether we are referring to UP, DOWN, or sideways.

I would hardly call our current position as lacking in steam - even though it is quite true that BTC prices may well have gotten ahead of their lil selfies on more than one occasion, including but not limited to the early April 19 to late June 19 pumpening that you referenced and even our 6.5x price increase from September 2020 to mid April - which is hardly even close to being clear if this has run out of steam, as you seem so inclined to call after a mere 6 days since the last ATH.. and a mere 20% correction (which is way the fuck within previous levels of correction that we have had in several cycles, including this particular cycle, too)... Nothing to see here you dumb fuck, unless maybe we start getting into the 50% price correction territory and maybe that it is lasting.. because corrections have both a amount of movement factor and also a time factor, as you should well know that by now, in spite of your inclinations to try to read negative into any lil tingilie.   You really need some kind of slappening.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

A slow cycle? A half-cycle? Mid-cycle lull?

However you want to label it, there is nothing really to see, yet.  It's normal price movement and/or within a range of normal price movements, and nothing to really get too excited about, yet.

Re doge-I am curios as to where it would stop..maybe it is done already,who knows.

Who gives any shits about a shitcoin?  Why would it even matter in these here parts or in any parts?

More interestingly: if inflation will pump by summer/fall, how would this reflect in btc price?
Linear thinking says that it would be a positive factor, but I am not so sure, short term.

Like you said, it should have positive influences on bitcoin UPpity price pressures, but sure might not be reflected in short term BTC price movements.. so cannot really disagree with you on this point in spite of your other retarded assertions within the same post.    Tongue Tongue Tongue

Every time BTC start crashing one idea strikes to my mind, there was a time when BTC went from $19,000 to $4,000
History will repeat at some point, let's hope I would manage my nerve when truly bear coming...

You seem to be prematurely getting nervous.

Maybe you are getting nervous because you are over-invested mrjoy15, and you should shave off some profits in order to feel more comfeee?  But then again, maybe you are just trying to time the market in a kind of greed?

Anyhow, sure you could be correct that BTC's UPpity price movement could be out of steam.. perhaps?  perhaps?, but it seems quite likely that we are in mid-2017-ish of the cycle rather than late 2017... but yeah, sure, we never know when the end of the cycle will be, so each of us has to attempt to figure out a BTC portfolio management strategy that works for us depending upon where we are at - and for example, if you are in early BTC accumulation mode, you might well be thinking about matters of BTC accumulation (including inclinations to gamble) differently from someone who has already accumulated a decent amount of BTC stash. 

One of the problems that we have witnessed historically is that there are some peeps who never reaching late BTC accumulation mode because they try to use selling their BTC as a means to accumulate BTC, which does not seem to be a very reliable method , in fact selling to accumulate seems to be the opposite of reliable in terms of accumulating BTC, if that might be where you are at, currently.

Hardly can know exactly where you are at merely based on your forum registration date.. or the assertions that you have more than one account.  You may need to provide us with more details regarding what you might be trying to accomplish in terms of your seeming worriedness that the top might be in and that might help, perhaps?

These ups and down is part for the game!!!


Very True. Most of traders wish to see rise of BTC like parabolic candle but in reality it rarely happens and every rise is followed by a fall. Market always  moves in waves.



I agree with the first chart posted by shahzadafzal, and it seems to me that a lot of us have reservations about the regularities that are appearing in that second chart, Sayeds56 - even though probably no one here really can disagree that waves do not occur, but sometimes, we seem to get overly reliance on some of those seemingly bullshit wave theories to try to plug bitcoin into some kind of pattern in order that you might be able to predict what might happen next, and so we surely need to be careful when we are trying to assign too much predictive value to what BTC might do next based on some stupid wave pattern, unless maybe such wave pattern might be also accounting for a variety of other relevant factors that might be putting pressures upon BTC's price in one direction or another including the fact that humans sometimes like to purposefully push BTC prices in the opposite direction than is being expected which provides them with profits if they are able to achieve such opposite BTC price movements.

Supply shock underway. Smiley



priced in? naaah
I still think that this cycle will surprise us (either on upside[70% chance] or downside [30% chance-purely a guesstimate]).

Actually something is wrong, Biodom because I am agreeing with you regarding everything that you said in the above post.

Your might be starting to rub off on me (until you say something stupid, again.. hahahahaha)

1st point.. fuck that priced in bullshit.

2nd point... good numbers - guesstimates.. surely skewed towards UPpity currently with so many bullish factors, but I had heard that some of the Glassnode numbers might not be adequately capturing actual movement of coins off of exchanges in regards to inadequate abilities to properly categorize some of the exchange/custody wallets - so that some of the wallets might be being treated as private wallets when they y are merely various kinds of exchange custody wallets - meaning that those misclassified coins could still end up being easily sold because they are largely still on the exchanges.
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Now back to Jack Vale fart videos.

Fart vids eh? One of my favorites...
Mr Methane rules baby!
https://youtu.be/SFLw8aH-M2w
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April 21, 2021, 05:05:18 AM

What the hell is this crap??? https://bitclout.com/???
Any idea? And what are all these claims??

“Everyone gets their own coin”
“Decentralized like Bitcoin”

Hahaha and look at this...



“This profile is reserved
@elonmusk has not joined Bitclout yet.”

Is this something like NFT shit?

It’s making me curious... how people bring such ideas???
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It's sure misspelled "Bitclaat" for Rastafarians  Cheesy
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April 21, 2021, 07:32:01 AM

Happy 4/20 you guys!

Was this the bottom perhaps?

Speaking of bottoms, check this out.



If you read this on your phone, gently shake your phone. It's pretty cool.

It has been a while that I had such fun on the Internet  Roll Eyes
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What the hell is this crap??? https://bitclout.com/???
Any idea? And what are all these claims??

“Everyone gets their own coin”
“Decentralized like Bitcoin”

Hahaha and look at this...



“This profile is reserved
@elonmusk has not joined Bitclout yet.”

Is this something like NFT shit?

It’s making me curious... how people bring such ideas???

What does an Ariana Grande coin allow me to do exactly?
I mean, I can think of something, but I'm not sure she'd agree.

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Happy 4/20 you guys!

Was this the bottom perhaps?

Speaking of bottoms, check this out.



If you read this on your phone, gently shake your phone. It's pretty cool.

It has been a while that I had such fun on the Internet  Roll Eyes

I'm more of a vanilla type of guy but if some people get a rock hard erection from pictures of Barney the dinosaur's ass that's absolutely fine by me. Hey, I'm not judging.
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It feels like something might happen, and soon...

Hopefully, in the UP direction.
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Agreeing with Phil here.
I'm ready to take off again. Too calm over here.
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Agreeing with Phil here.
I'm ready to take off again. Too calm over here.

Mate, I'm ready to take off again WHILE we're taking off!
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It feels like something might happen, and soon...
My personal expectation: Bitcoin will go up again once transaction fees drop. In 2017, Bitcoin reached it's peak when fees went crazy high. At the moment, fees aren't that high in sat, but already half way to the 2017 peak when measured in dollars.
Except for this time it's caused by some coal problem in China, which reduces hash rate. Once the difficulty drops and the power problem in China is resolved, miners will start spitting out blocks much faster, fees will drop to virtually nothing, and Bitcoin can take off again.

/just speculating here Cheesy
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What would serve best FIAT or DOGE?  Roll Eyes
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