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[Hueristic]

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way.

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..

Yeah, but if you gain immunity through having your God-given immune system work for you as intended, the media wants you to feel like a shitty and selfish person. Shame on you!

God never gave me shit in this life, I've had to work for everything I've received.

[Dabs]

Yeah, but if you gain immunity through having your God-given immune system work for you as intended, the media wants you to feel like a shitty and selfish person. Shame on you!

God never gave me shit in this life, I've had to work for everything I've received.

I think some things you are born with them, or in some cases your body develops the immunity or resistance as long as you can survive it, and that about covers what some people call as their deity.

Like most people, I had an adult care for me at least until 5 or 6 years old, then still be dependent on them until around 18 to 21; I lived with my parents until a little bit after that, save money on a place to sleep and eat.

[lightfoot]

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way.

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..

Given that Delta can re-infect I think we can say herd immunity is not going to happen for awhile. I just got back from FL a week or two ago and have a cough now. Tested negative, but now concerned and will probably be going back to the P100 respirator.

On the positive side vaccines seem to prevent severe symptoms, but if vacced people can spread it you're going to wind up with a bunch of people who are suffering colds and a bunch of others who are dying. That will eventually solve the problem, still sucks to have a cold.

The hot question on my mind is "Should I go out to Vegas next week for Defcon/BH". Currently you can't get into Defcon without an original vacc card (good idea) and I could just walk around everywhere with the P100 on, might just do that...

Anyone else going to Vegas next week? Want to meet up and say hi?

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[JayJuanGee]

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way.

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..

I am not going to proclaim that you took the wrong actions, yet I doubt that anyone should be letting you off so easy as to allow you to proclaim that you get a pass in your critical thinking attempts based merely on age... .

Yeah, sure, I understand that you may well be implying that there are other reasons beyond mere age, such as various risk factors, including the fact that for sure OLDer fogies are not as likely to be able to tolerate as much physical abuse or even bad habits in order to become vulnerable to limitations of their own  body to repair itself.  

For example, I recall putting my body through all kinds of abuses in my teens and in my 20s, and I maintained a pretty decent physique and pretty high levels of energy... and so in some sense, when you are younger, you might not know what you do know or the concrete recognition of limitations that could come from seemingly improving habits in a lot of ways such as food, sleep and exercise, but even with those various improvements, the energy levels (and even in-shapeness) are no where near to what they had been in earlier years.. ...

Anyhow, my point is just to show that we should not be giving up on our critical thinking skills, even if there are some truths in regards to becoming more conservative in a lot of ways.. just for self preservation purposes, and if you are NOT in pain every day, the vast majority of folks would probably prefer to live into their 70s or later rather than perishing in their 40s or 50s.. which does sometimes happen to folks based on their beliefs that they are stronger than they are, and they end up going through a surprise health event that shows them both that they are not as physically strong as they thought (factually) and that sometimes they will end up dying from such surprise health event or becoming quite disabled - even if they might have been captain of the football team.. or some other seemingly impervious and invincible health indicators in their youth.

When we where dreaming and rooting for page parity and now where 10 k higher + page count is waaaaay higher as when we where rooting

Living the dream tbh

That we the fundamental posters of the WO have had the privilege of being mixed in BTC this early

Waaaauw

I got a chuckle out of this expression... "fundamental poster"...

I wonder?  is ur lil selfie and yours truly "fundamental posters"?  hahahahaha...

no need to answer these kinds of "knowing it when you see it" kinds of findings.. I am just asking rhetorically in order to inspire my lil selfie to chuckle more.

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way.

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..

Yeah, but if you gain immunity through having your God-given immune system work for you as intended, the media wants you to feel like a shitty and selfish person. Shame on you!

God never gave me shit in this life, I've had to work for everything I've received.

Whoaza!!!!!

Another chuckle must be exerted by yours truly.

I know that you must be exaggerating a wee bit, Hueristic.

We could probably point out almost any topic and recognize/appreciate that there was some luck (or god-given) involved in getting from point A to point B... Sure, you may well have guided the direction, and for example you probably would not have been able to do shit, in terms of the taking advantage of the opportunity, absent some preparations... some luck is more preparation based than others, and for example, I feel pretty damned privileged to have been able to live as long as I have (so far... not giving up, yet)... , and I can imagine quite a few scenarios in which I were to have made different choices in my past, and end up screwing myself in some ways... but sure, sometimes we cannot really know about the possible alternative past paths that had been chosen 10 years earlier, because just like Robert Frost said, sometimes only certain ones of those paths will ONLY come up once.. and whether you choose this kind of profession or that kind of profession could get you locked into something that would have been much different (not sure if better or worse, but still.. I feel grateful for some things that I have going for me - even bitcoin.. blowing it off can make a decent amount of difference versus taking action.. that ends up being 4 years earlier than the blowing it off route.. .. and people proclaim "you are so lucky."..... sure, yes, there was a certain amount of luck in those contemplations and those actions and those considerations regarding how much time do I have available that I can learn about this?  Some people have very little time to study (or abilities to understand very well certain kinds of ideas).. lucky, for sure.. I am feeling... Reminds me:  "do you feel lucky, punk?")...

Yeah, but if you gain immunity through having your God-given immune system work for you as intended, the media wants you to feel like a shitty and selfish person. Shame on you!

God never gave me shit in this life, I've had to work for everything I've received.

I think some things you are born with them, or in some cases your body develops the immunity or resistance as long as you can survive it, and that about covers what some people call as their deity.

Like most people, I had an adult care for me at least until 5 or 6 years old, then still be dependent on them until around 18 to 21; I lived with my parents until a little bit after that, save money on a place to sleep and eat.

And, that is another pretty decent example, too.  I feel lucky about having parents, even though by the time I was a teenager I thought I knew more than them (which was hardly true).. even though of course, each person does have a differing perception, so inevitably there were going to be things that I knew that they did not know.. but they were still helpful in a variety of ways, and surely I could think of seemingly worse upbringing circumstances - relatively speaking.

[El duderino_]

Everyone that’s involved and kept being active as positive with the correct beliefs of what Bitcoin is and why it’s needed…. Yes then I consider myself as a fundamental poster as well… 

We not only become a fundamental poster bc of keyboard warrior and no sleep skill….

There are more older fundamental posters, but many are gone, maybe some rich AF maybe some broke AF….
But those who stick in the place are fundamental posters… or am I very wrong?

[JayJuanGee]

Everyone that’s involved and kept being active as positive with the correct beliefs of what Bitcoin is and why it’s needed…. Yes then I consider myself as a fundamental poster as well…  

We not only become a fundamental poster bc of keyboard warrior and no sleep skill….

There are more older fundamental posters, but many are gone, maybe some rich AF maybe some broke AF….
But those who stick in the place are fundamental posters… or am I very wrong?

I think that an interesting dynamic of bitcoin, is that there is some level of design within it that both causes it to market itself (not completely, but a decent amount) and also that we do not necessarily need to agree on either what bitcoin is or how to use it... but if we can find value in it, then we might buy some of it, use it or even consider that it might be good to get some in case that it might catch on someday.

In the end, the design that even seems to cause some strength through greedy acting, such as miners trying to mine and to out compete other miners in order to get the reward...

In any event, I doubt that you are wrong.. you are just framing some aspect of the matter in a way that is different from my chosen framework.. and yeah, there is some value that is personally given to individuals who "stick with it".. so many of us have likely figured out that we can attempt to do the right thing in terms of getting involved in bitcoin, learning about bitcoin, and brainstorming with other bitcoiners about bitcoin, and at the same time, we can also get richie.. .hahahaha..

What a deal... !!!!  what a deal!!!!!

getting richie is like a bonus side benefit of bitcoin.. maybe could get a little richie or a lot richie, and maybe ONLY figure it out later, so still get richie, but just less richie than the one who acted and stuck with it earlier (which is largely what you seem to asserting too, dude), and sure maybe some folks who are maniacally focused on the getting richie part of bitcoin but seems that in some sense, just staying persistent will likely help to bring progress in the getting richie direction, without necessarily having to act in maniacal or impatient ways.. just don't get too greedy, continue to accumulate BTC and try to learn more about BTC along the way.. which may well cause each of us who is fortune enough to try to learn about the space to tweak your BTC (accumulation, maintenance or liquidation) strategies a wee bit here and there along the way, too.

In other words, we are likely saying similar things, dude.. .. just phrasing aspects of what we are saying differently... you fundamental poster, you...     #nohomo    

[cAPSLOCK]

I think that in spite of the sideways of these days, today is a key day: "Bitcoin bulls control Friday's $1.7B monthly options expiry"

Let's hope that due to this we break through resistance above $41K, and we'll get to $50K pretty soon.

Good stuff... yes, we are holding up rather well as far as these things go.  There might just be some gas in the tank!

@McDude: ready the weekend pump truck!

[cAPSLOCK]

Binance getting regulated hard.

https://twitter.com/binance/status/1421033049098174468?s=21

No more futures/derivatives trading in several Euro countries.

This is bullish for price stability whether it is "right" or not...

[Hueristic]

I think some things you are born with them, or in some cases your body develops the immunity or resistance as long as you can survive it, and that about covers what some people call as their deity.

Like most people, I had an adult care for me at least until 5 or 6 years old, then still be dependent on them until around 18 to 21; I lived with my parents until a little bit after that, save money on a place to sleep and eat.

I can't complain about the gene pool I was born into, my ancestors did pretty well in the evolutionary game and gave me the tools I needed to survive.

I do consider myself lucky in this regard, but I will never attribute that to some boogeyman that lives in the sky and tortures me when I die if I don't do what people in robes that prey on children and the weak minded tell me what to do.

[Paashaas]

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Hueristic]

Given that Delta can re-infect I think we can say herd immunity is not going to happen for awhile. I just got back from FL a week or two ago and have a cough now. Tested negative, but now concerned and will probably be going back to the P100 respirator.

On the positive side vaccines seem to prevent severe symptoms, but if vacced people can spread it you're going to wind up with a bunch of people who are suffering colds and a bunch of others who are dying. That will eventually solve the problem, still sucks to have a cold.

The hot question on my mind is "Should I go out to Vegas next week for Defcon/BH". Currently you can't get into Defcon without an original vacc card (good idea) and I could just walk around everywhere with the P100 on, might just do that...

Anyone else going to Vegas next week? Want to meet up and say hi?

Apparently there is a break out in Mass of vaccinated people spreading delta.

This 900-person delta cluster in Mass. has CDC freaked out—74% are vaccinated

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/07/this-900-person-delta-cluster-in-mass-has-cdc-freaked-out-74-are-vaccinated/


Its kind of amusing to think of defcon peops forcing vaccines, not really the libertarians they like to think they are I guess.

[Hueristic]

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way.

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..

I am not going to proclaim that you took the wrong actions, yet I doubt that anyone should be letting you off so easy as to allow you to proclaim that you get a pass in your critical thinking attempts based merely on age... .

Yeah, sure, I understand that you may well be implying that there are other reasons beyond mere age, such as various risk factors, including the fact that for sure OLDer fogies are not as likely to be able to tolerate as much physical abuse or even bad habits in order to become vulnerable to limitations of their own  body to repair itself.

I gotta run and don't have time to delve into one of your novels but I got this far and will get to the rest later.

So the point is circumstances are different for everyone and whether you choose to act on self interest or what you perceive as the interest of the herd can be a moot point depending on those circumstances.

IOW my demographic has made it unnecessary for me to have to make that choice and I am not sure what choice I would have made if I was in a position to not have to protect myself. I would like to think I would make an altruistic choice but I cannot really be sure now can I. We lie to ourselfs all the time to justify actions that are in our self interest.

Well shit I'm getting wordy and have to run out, luckily FF saves typed text as the stupid mouse is acting up and sent me back a page and I was not going to retype this.

[techearn17]

I think we need to hold on to 38,000 four hundred and I think we're going to go back to 40,000. This drop would be a good match for us.

[ImThour]

STRONG HIDDEN BULLISH DIVERGENCE. GO LONG!

[gembitz]

Bitcoin doing nicely while I was gone from here.

OT: Went on 2wk vacation abroad.
There is a LOT of infection going on (anecdotally based on relatives info).
Being vaxxed does not seem to make an effect on being infected, but probably has an effect on severity (hopefully).
People lost the sense of following the rules though and 50% are flaunting mask rules in public transport (subway, etc) despite (theoretically) a potential of being fined.
Those 50% are wearing the mask, but on the neck, lol
The fine is $60 equivalent-a slap on the wrist if you ask me.

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

1)I think they are a clearcut short term solution that would knock this off the map of the world if the world had a 95% vax rate.


2) I think none of us know what the long term effects of this vax will do to our bodies. It will take 10 years to find out.

3) I think more than 2 billion people will resist the vax and not get it as they fear point number 2.


4) Ten years from now I think people will still argue over this. Even thought the math will show a clear cut difference in death rates for the vaxed vs the un vaxed.


My guess was vax is smarter then no vax.

So I walked over to the barrel of guns grabbed one and played a round of russian roulette so to speak and vaxed.

I have zero problem with anti vaxers as long as they admit no vax is going to the other barrel of guns and playing russian roulette so to speak 🗣

which is the better wheel of death 💀 to play?


i hope vaxing. I want to be around in ten years to see how much my btc is worth.

roach?   lol

[xhomerx10]

Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.

Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way.

Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..

Yeah, but if you gain immunity through having your God-given immune system work for you as intended, the media wants you to feel like a shitty and selfish person. Shame on you!

God never gave me shit in this life, I've had to work for everything I've received.

 

 Sorry, couldn't help myself.  Probably a vaccine side-effect.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[El duderino_]

Hmmm the double-followed by a -triple- W- pattern playing out…..

Love this TA chart most, it always the most accurate imo