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[eXPHorizon]

Are you trolling, you retard?  Now all of a sudden you are an "online currencies" expert?

You initially claimed that bitcoin's scarcity did not give it value and I 'splained the concept of scarcity a wee bit MOAR better to uie pooie.

An example of something that is scarce but not valuable would be each time that you assemble a set of rocks, you arrange them in a unique way... it is a one of a kind that a no named troll like yourself had assembled.  .. So, in that regard, it is surely scarce but it is not necessarily valuable.  

An example of something that is valuable but not scarce would be breathable air.

There are other examples of scarcity and not valuable and other examples of valuable and not scarce, but there is likely little to no need for me to provide further examples, especially when you are ongoingly showing that you are not even trying to reasonably and meaningfully engage in the topic... unless you are going to provide some better ideas about what it is that you are talking about.. that might have been trying to address some kind of genuine question related the this thread... whether you consider bitcoin to be valuable or not.. do you have any point, exactly?

The only one on excess of words and low on brain power seem to be you uliepooie

I really wanted to know your view on scarcity and value but that seem to be non existent as you tried to explain with rocks piled up on top of each other...

And where have you been living in the past few years ? Under a rock ? In heavy self confinement ? Of course i learned a lot about Online Currencies unlike ... some ...

I just wanted to know your standpoint and your "Wisdom" that does not exist. So i can use your words sometime in the future against you or for you.. depends on the situation but that is hard compared to what you provided

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[Richy_T]

Thanks for the link. While I dont see the problem with this particular piece of information not being archived I'm still not happy about the precedent this set. Especially since these sort of things typically tend to encroach more and more. I'd wish they'd just backup everything (especially text) and reside in a jurisdiction where they can.

Precisely. It's not about the data itself (though one wonders what they are hiding*), more whether you're comfortable with the line that has been crossed. It's very damaging to trust, especially having seen how things play out in the current climate.

*From what I understand, she has a familial connection (niece) with the person who runs archive.org.

It's worth noting that there are alternatives but one should always be vigilant.

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[Biodom]

hmmm...where are the 'funnies' here?  

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[wachtwoord]

Thanks for the link. While I dont see the problem with this particular piece of information not being archived I'm still not happy about the precedent this set. Especially since these sort of things typically tend to encroach more and more. I'd wish they'd just backup everything (especially text) and reside in a jurisdiction where they can.

Precisely. It's not about the data itself (though one wonders what they are hiding*), more whether you're comfortable with the line that has been crossed. It's very damaging to trust, especially having seen how things play out in the current climate.

*From what I understand, she has a familial connection (niece) with the person who runs archive.org.

It's worth noting that there are alternatives but one should always be vigilant.

I'm not aware of alternatives on (or near) par with archive.org. Would you please share them?

[philipma1957]

Thanks for the link. While I dont see the problem with this particular piece of information not being archived I'm still not happy about the precedent this set. Especially since these sort of things typically tend to encroach more and more. I'd wish they'd just backup everything (especially text) and reside in a jurisdiction where they can.

Precisely. It's not about the data itself (though one wonders what they are hiding*), more whether you're comfortable with the line that has been crossed. It's very damaging to trust, especially having seen how things play out in the current climate.

*From what I understand, she has a familial connection (niece) with the person who runs archive.org.

It's worth noting that there are alternatives but one should always be vigilant.

I'm not aware of alternatives on (or near) par with archive.org. Would you please share them?

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https://launchspace.net/software-comparison/wayback-machine-alternatives/


note not sure why the source was not linked. here is the link i got the 11 from.

i found the link with a google source.

I can see the post was first done while I was loaded on painkillers from my hernia op.



11 Best Wayback Machine Alternatives 2021
Stillio
Pagefreezer
Archive.today
WebCite
Resurrect Pages
Alexa
MirrorWeb
ChangeTower
Message Watcher
Yubnub

check them out see what you like.

I like. https://archive.ph

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[Gachapin]

Many people will probably start to allocate before they fully understand what Bitcoin is, simply because key figures who they follow do.

Call me dumb.. but I don't feel like I am even close to fully understanding what bitcoin is, and sometimes my mind changes about various aspects of what I think bitcoin is.

I do have confidence that I have some angles of understanding about what bitcoin is that are better than some people who know other things about bitcoin that I don't really understand..     Sometimes I will hear a developer talking about some angle of bitcoin that I have hardly any clue about what they are talking about, and then when they start to talk about bitcoin's investment thesis or areas in which I feel that I spend a lot of time, then I might start to think.. wholey fuck, that person doesn't know some basic concepts that I know.

Oh there are some newbies to bitcoin, and they have podcasts, and maybe they have only been in a couple of years, sometimes they will present some bitcoin-related ideas that are quite out of my reach in terms of understanding, and other times, they will say things I consider to be dumb.  I bet that there are some folks in El Salvador who got into bitcoin in less than a year, and they know way more about lighting network than some of us who have been in bitcoin 8 years or more (including yours truly because I don't know too much of about actually using lightning network through personal experiences), and maybe some of those folks in El Salvador might be bullish as fuck about bitcoin but only have less than a 3rd grade education..

My bad.  To keep it short I wrote "fully understand what Bitcoin is".  But that is indeed not very precise.  I should have chosen another wording.
There are of course different aspects and levels/depths of understanding Bitcoin.  "Fully" was meant as:
You could reliably explain all important aspects (technical, game theoretical and monetary) to a newb.  
(Like explaining high school math to someone but not higher mathematics.)

I think sometimes we might get too accustomed to the fact that so many people around us don't understand Bitcoin yet, and that we are still early.
That might leave us with a feeling that causes us to miscalculate the size of impact, when people finally catch on  ...or to miscalculate how quickly it can happen, once worldwide FOMO begins.  But things can escalate very quickly.

I cannot really disagree with anything you say here, and even some of the real world Gresham's law motivations might not really be apparent to some of us, even though there could be some bitcoin contagion that builds upon Gresham law motivations principles and some of the folks who are influenced by those kinds of sound money factors might not really realize why it is that they are getting some resonance in regards to bitcoin being better money than any other kinds of money out there... which as you say builds upon itself in a kind of snowballing gravitational way, even if the users might not really exactly know why they are being motivated in that direction.

To quote yourself:  I cannot really disagree with anything you say here   

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[Richy_T]

I'm not aware of alternatives on (or near) par with archive.org. Would you please share them?

May not be "on par" but I think archive.today and archive.is are a couple I've heard of.

(Edit: Oops. It's the same picture).

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[Gachapin]

enough is enough Buddy