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[BTCETFInvestor]

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

UAE cuts UK from scholarship funding over extremism concerns

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uae-cuts-uk-scholarship-funding-over-extremism-concerns

The U.S. Department of State has determined Europe has a high percentage of extremists and will take all precautions necessary to identify and prevent those people from ever entering the United States. The United States is having to deal with 25+ million illegal immigrants the Biden administration let into the country, many of which are killing American citizens and stealing taxpayer money and sending it overseas to purposely fund terrorist activity. President Trump's administration fully intends to put a stop to that...        

[laijsica]

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Trump's activities seem to be a major disaster for America. The dollar is being devalued globally. If his stubborn decisions continue the dollar's sole dominance may be destroyed.

His personal arrogance is pushing a great country like America towards a bad outcome. He is not making decisions as a president but as a prominent businessman in the country.

[Lucius]

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

UAE cuts UK from scholarship funding over extremism concerns

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uae-cuts-uk-scholarship-funding-over-extremism-concerns

I hope that the EU will respond with similar measures, because despite what you (and those like you) think that Europeans are radicals and terrorists, the opposite is true. Every day we see police officers in the US killing people like dogs on the road and mass murders are as normal as breakfast.

Preventing people from entering a country because they have different political opinions is on the level of North Korea or Russia.

[BitHodlers]

Trump's activities seem to be a major disaster for America. The dollar is being devalued globally. If his stubborn decisions continue the dollar's sole dominance may be destroyed.

His personal arrogance is pushing a great country like America towards a bad outcome. He is not making decisions as a president but as a prominent businessman in the country.

You are a funny one, find me one place in the world that is doing better than America? The only country that is competing is China.

I hope that the EU will respond with similar measures, because despite what you (and those like you) think that Europeans are radicals and terrorists, the opposite is true. Every day we see police officers in the US killing people like dogs on the road and mass murders are as normal as breakfast.

Preventing people from entering a country because they have different political opinions is on the level of North Korea or Russia.

Terrorism and extremism has nothing to do with normal differences in political opinions. You are potential guests here. If you can't keep your house in order, please don't come to mine. Someone should open a Polymarket bet, which will enter a civil war first the EU or The US. That could be interesting. It is pretty mean to label me with that those like you stuff just because I have a different opinion on Europe than you do..

[BTCETFInvestor]

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Trump's activities seem to be a major disaster for America. The dollar is being devalued globally. If his stubborn decisions continue the dollar's sole dominance may be destroyed.

His personal arrogance is pushing a great country like America towards a bad outcome. He is not making decisions as a president but as a prominent businessman in the country.

That's hilarious!

Trump is making damn sure America remains the greatest country in the world and Americans are safe and have the best life possible.

[BTCETFInvestor]

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

UAE cuts UK from scholarship funding over extremism concerns

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uae-cuts-uk-scholarship-funding-over-extremism-concerns

I hope that the EU will respond with similar measures, because despite what you (and those like you) think that Europeans are radicals and terrorists, the opposite is true. Every day we see police officers in the US killing people like dogs on the road and mass murders are as normal as breakfast.

Preventing people from entering a country because they have different political opinions is on the level of North Korea or Russia.

Many of the EU countries are total disasters and blights on their good neighbors.    

Many EU countries absolutely refuse (and turn a blind eye) to help protect or come to the aid of a neighboring country being attacked (i.e. Ukraine) and have refused to pay their share to NATO, or they allow immigrants to have a community that bans local police to come in.  Many of those countries are run by worthless scumbags!

Disgraceful! Pathetic! Shameful! Cowards! 

[goldkingcoiner]

Climate change is a reality, specially south Asian countries are experiencing drastic change in climate. Summers are getting more hot and their duration is also increasing. This is something I personally experiencing because I belong to that region.  

New Human inventions are doing more damage to environment then good.

Traditionally paper bags were used and we were told that to stop deforestation, plastic is the solution and today we are reverting back to paper bags to stop plastic pollution.

Just a reminder that no amount of taxes or regulation is going to stop the oceans from boiling one day. The only real solution to global warming is space exploration.

By space exploration, if you mean moving to other planet then that's solution for elite countries only. Billions of people still have to live on this planet and for them their is need to find solution for global warming.

    

Space exploration is a weak excuse to take care of our earth's environmental problems. Ask any serious scientist. SE is a technocrat's wet dream, nothing more.
Well, maybe also a background for another science fiction novel.

I agree. But I also believe that space exploration will open a lot of new doors. Mining Helium-3 on the moon seems like a profitable venture.

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[philipma1957]

a good thing about slot theory means the 4 year cycle died.

the tank or real drop was after April 1 back in 2022 42k to 29k on may 12.

which means maybe we really tank around  April this year.

I don't get it? Do you mean to say you don't agree that the cycle theory is dead? If you do then we should not tank around April.

it means I do not know what will happen and that I am in doubt as to uppity sideways or down for 2026.

But I still stack all my mining coins about 0.0011 a day or 0.0330 a month

I also but a bit when I sell silver.

If I push hard I could leave the 1+ btc rank and grow to the 2 btc rank by Jan 2027

Maybe it is just me but sometimes your posts come across like the opposite, statements of certainty. I have some trouble interpreting them at times. Thank you for explaining. I think that in the coming time we will be able to confirm whether the cycle theory is dead or not. The coming months are key.

I typ a lot of uncorrected stream of consciousness post's

It is an intentional style as bots do not effort to copy it and when they do they make a huge mess of what they write.


watch this video and you will understand why I write the way I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMmMeajKVGM

this is what we are facing right now on a small scale

just think of what it will be like in a decade





notice typ first sentence  left it that way even though I saw it was wrong

[philipma1957]

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

welcome to America 'not'

It will be worse next year

and worse the year after that.

[BitHodlers]

I typ a lot of uncorrected stream of consciousness post's

It is an intentional style as bots do not effort to copy it and when they do they make a huge mess of what they write.


watch this video and you will understand why I write the way I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMmMeajKVGM

this is what we are facing right now on a small scale

just think of what it will be like in a decade





notice typ first sentence  left it that way even though I saw it was wrong

You are worried that they will make philipmaGPT?  

[BTCETFInvestor]

a good thing about slot theory means the 4 year cycle died.

the tank or real drop was after April 1 back in 2022 42k to 29k on may 12.

which means maybe we really tank around  April this year.

I don't get it? Do you mean to say you don't agree that the cycle theory is dead? If you do then we should not tank around April.

it means I do not know what will happen and that I am in doubt as to uppity sideways or down for 2026.

But I still stack all my mining coins about 0.0011 a day or 0.0330 a month

I also but a bit when I sell silver.

If I push hard I could leave the 1+ btc rank and grow to the 2 btc rank by Jan 2027

Maybe it is just me but sometimes your posts come across like the opposite, statements of certainty. I have some trouble interpreting them at times. Thank you for explaining. I think that in the coming time we will be able to confirm whether the cycle theory is dead or not. The coming months are key.

I typ a lot of uncorrected stream of consciousness post's

It is an intentional style as bots do not effort to copy it and when they do they make a huge mess of what they write.


watch this video and you will understand why I write the way I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMmMeajKVGM

this is what we are facing right now on a small scale

just think of what it will be like in a decade


notice typ first sentence  left it that way even though I saw it was wrong

Phil - I really can't imagine why you feel the need to sometimes intentionally type uncorrected streams of your thoughts in posts. Certainly its not to prove that you're not a bot, because that's not necessary.  

[ChartBuddy]

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[JayJuanGee]

I do not know that podcast or the people on it, but NASA has very nice empirical proof: https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

All I ask for is a general acceptance it is real and not a hoax. And some characters have been leveraging unrealistic FUD about global warming for their own reasons (usually media attention) and that too is not what we should focus on.

I think the problem will solve itself soon with fusion energy. And talking of Bitcoin, I wonder what cheaper fusion energy will do for Bitcoin. Any thoughts?

Climate change is a reality, specially south Asian countries are experiencing drastic change in climate. Summers are getting more hot and their duration is also increasing. This is something I personally experiencing because I belong to that region. 

New Human inventions are doing more damage to environment then good.

Traditionally paper bags were used and we were told that to stop deforestation, plastic is the solution and today we are reverting back to paper bags to stop plastic pollution.

Just a reminder that no amount of taxes or regulation is going to stop the oceans from boiling one day. The only real solution to global warming is space exploration.

Some of this discussion seems to be revolving around various negative impacts that man has on the environment rather than whether the globe is warming based on human activities - or even some of the theories that involve negative impacts being so bad that the trajectory of doom and gloom of the planet are no longer reversible.

Regarding space as the solution, that seems quite a bit fantastical, since even the most hostile of earth's locations would be multiple times less hostile than any place in space, including the negative impacts of zero gravity and other space hostilities that would likely kill a lot of normies pretty fast.

I am not suggesting that there isn't some value to explore space and to study various possibilities - yet it does not seem to be much of a realistic solution or a location to expand human existence.  I suppose that there is quite a bit of value that comes from the ISS and other space stations and space activities over the last 40-ish years, and at the same time, if the six moon landings that supposedly involved 12 individuals between July 1969 and December 1972, it seems quite curious that with more than 50 years passage of time, advances in technology, advances in science and advances in our various understandings of space, then why wouldn't there be even more human missions to such locations like the moon to test abilities to actually subsist in such a location that is so far away and likely quite hostile to the human body, just like the space stations seem to show a lot of challenges to maintain inhabitation of them and ongoing servicing of them.

[edited out]

Maybe it is just me but sometimes your posts come across like the opposite, statements of certainty. I have some trouble interpreting them at times. Thank you for explaining. I think that in the coming time we will be able to confirm whether the cycle theory is dead or not. The coming months are key.

Phil can be a bit all over the place, even though he does sometimes provide some perspectives that are good to consider or that might not otherwise get raised.

Regarding cycle theory, there hasn't been anything wrong with our having had historically considering bitcoin price dynamics under such framework, even though surely in recent times there are proclamations that all along we had been looking at the business cycle rather than dynamics that were related to bitcoin's scarcity and/or bitcoin's issuance schedule.  I doubt that too many of us were overly reliant (except maybe LFC hahahahaha) on any particular model, since there are various ongoing pressures upon bitcoin with it seeming to get a lot more attention since late 2023 when Blackrock started to focus upon it and even to build systems around it, whether those are helpful or attacks or just multi-faceted ways to challenge how bitcoin is going forth into the future.. .

Even though since 2014 (and likely even before that) it had been anticipated by Trace Mayer and even others that bitcoin was going to go through financialization, all of the impacts of that process and/or the extent to which bitcoin might be able to retain its resilience has not been completely known or even knowable... so in some sense, there are needs to go with the flow even though we continue to have theories about bitcoin and the strength and resilience of its investment thesis.  We can choose our allocation accordingly and even reposition ourselves and/or reallocate to the extent that we consider our investment thesis to strengthen or weaken.

Part of my point is that the extent to which cycle theory continues to be a factor or some input is likely not very crucial - since short term BTC price dynamics and/or even longer term dynamics can likely be hypothesized upon based on a variety of factors and/or indicators and cycle theory can still be part of the factors considered whether others consider it to be dead or not.  We don't necessarily need to be in consensus (which has always been the case) in the ways that we attempt to weight bitcoin price dynamics and probabilities around such BTC price dynamics.

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

UAE cuts UK from scholarship funding over extremism concerns

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uae-cuts-uk-scholarship-funding-over-extremism-concerns

I hope that the EU will respond with similar measures, because despite what you (and those like you) think that Europeans are radicals and terrorists, the opposite is true. Every day we see police officers in the US killing people like dogs on the road and mass murders are as normal as breakfast.

Preventing people from entering a country because they have different political opinions is on the level of North Korea or Russia.

There have frequently been dynamics to have greater restrictions on the movement of people as compared with capital.. and of course, various new forms of monitoring and/or controls are bringing out these kinds of conrtrol and monitoring mechanisms whether they are put on supposed outsiders or insiders, I doubt that it is a good idea to be embracing governments that are engaging in such tactics even though they are going to continue to do it.. and yeah, the ultra-rich tend to be able to skirt around some of the restrictions even though such restrictions likely hamper even the ultra rich in various ways.

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[OutOfMemory]

Climate change is a reality, specially south Asian countries are experiencing drastic change in climate. Summers are getting more hot and their duration is also increasing. This is something I personally experiencing because I belong to that region.  

New Human inventions are doing more damage to environment then good.

Traditionally paper bags were used and we were told that to stop deforestation, plastic is the solution and today we are reverting back to paper bags to stop plastic pollution.

Just a reminder that no amount of taxes or regulation is going to stop the oceans from boiling one day. The only real solution to global warming is space exploration.

By space exploration, if you mean moving to other planet then that's solution for elite countries only. Billions of people still have to live on this planet and for them their is need to find solution for global warming.

    

Space exploration is a weak excuse to take care of our earth's environmental problems. Ask any serious scientist. SE is a technocrat's wet dream, nothing more.
Well, maybe also a background for another science fiction novel.

I agree. But I also believe that space exploration will open a lot of new doors. Mining Helium-3 on the moon seems like a profitable venture.

Yep, my scope was exactly the argument i edited in bold above.
And true, in fact Moon is space, but still very, very close to earth and like it seems also a former part of earth's  mass, when looking at the accepted theories of how the moon was created, so i still exclude the moon from space, within the scope of this discussion.

While i support technology, i suggest keeping an open eye on economics and ecology.

It seems that thousands of people who planned to come to the world football championship in the US this year will still stay at home, because the new rules for entering the country will require most Europeans to submit their profiles on social networks (5 years ago) and all e-mail addresses, phone numbers, including those of close family members from the past 10 years, and biometric data. I'm surprised they didn't remember to ask for information about cryptocurrencies.

Even if the traveler is subsequently given the green light to enter the country, immigration officials can turn them back or detain them without any explanation. In any case, the number of travelers from the EU to the US has already fallen by an average of about 10% in the last year, and as things stand, it will be even greater.

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

So you are European?

[BitHodlers]

Phil can be a bit all over the place, even though he does sometimes provide some perspectives that are good to consider or that might not otherwise get raised.

Regarding cycle theory, there hasn't been anything wrong with our having had historically considering bitcoin price dynamics under such framework, even though surely in recent times there are proclamations that all along we had been looking at the business cycle rather than dynamics that were related to bitcoin's scarcity and/or bitcoin's issuance schedule.  I doubt that too many of us were overly reliant (except maybe LFC hahahahaha) on any particular model, since there are various ongoing pressures upon bitcoin with it seeming to get a lot more attention since late 2023 when Blackrock started to focus upon it and even to build systems around it, whether those are helpful or attacks or just multi-faceted ways to challenge how bitcoin is going forth into the future.. .

Even though since 2014 (and likely even before that) it had been anticipated by Trace Mayer and even others that bitcoin was going to go through financialization, all of the impacts of that process and/or the extent to which bitcoin might be able to retain its resilience has not been completely known or even knowable... so in some sense, there are needs to go with the flow even though we continue to have theories about bitcoin and the strength and resilience of its investment thesis.  We can choose our allocation accordingly and even reposition ourselves and/or reallocate to the extent that we consider our investment thesis to strengthen or weaken.

Part of my point is that the extent to which cycle theory continues to be a factor or some input is likely not very crucial - since short term BTC price dynamics and/or even longer term dynamics can likely be hypothesized upon based on a variety of factors and/or indicators and cycle theory can still be part of the factors considered whether others consider it to be dead or not.  We don't necessarily need to be in consensus (which has always been the case) in the ways that we attempt to weight bitcoin price dynamics and probabilities around such BTC price dynamics.

It seemed to make sense hysterically I will agree with that and it seemed to be related to the halving schedule, but that does not mean that it was what was causing it. Right we tend to see this knowledge being repeated frequently that humans often find patterns in things where there are none, or at least we try to. It is built deep into us. Yet despite this being said most of us continue to do it, and some even insist on doing it. I find the coming period very interesting compared to the recent hovering around 87 to 90k. It will become very clear whether the cycle theory is dead. If it is that will give us interesting and new perspectives of everything.

Regarding other discussions that have been going on between some pages, I have also noticed independently like others that the price action is strange. Someone said it already. It does not matter if news is good or bad the price seems to behave the same way. This is very different from previous times where news always had impact. At times it was China banning Bitcoin for the 100th time or someone big accepting Bitcoin, but it always did something. Now it feels like if the US announced tomorrow it will start buying massive number of Bitcoin for a federal reserve that nothing would happen. I know I am exaggerating a bit but that is how it feels like in the recent times and the weird price behavior. 

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

So you are European?

Are you trying to say that I am a radical or you're just wondering if I am an American ranting on about Europe? 

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[OutOfMemory]

Good for the US as Europe is full of radicals and terrorists. You can't make this stuff up..

So you are European?

Are you trying to say that I am a radical or you're just wondering if I am an American ranting on about Europe? 

You can read, no? 
I was asking a simple question.
Possible answers: Yes, No.
Single choice.

Understood?