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How is this the Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion board with all the non-BTC related shit?  Huh

 Every hour on the hour we get the wall report from ChartBuddy without comment; that's the "Bitcoin price movement tracking" portion and then what the rest of us do is the "discussion" portion.  Not sure what gave you the idea it had to be related to whatever the hell dead horse ChartBuddy is flogging.  Guess you haven't been here through the depths of hell extended accumulation phases which is why you don't know about "where's the dude" - the chatter is to keep things interesting (mostly).

Understand it better now with the search for the identity of Satoshi thread, 'BTCdude'. Thanks, xhomerx10!  
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Best physical activity for your entire body.  

 

@WatChe - That hiking trail looks really steep, making it a real cardio workout! Margalla Trail?

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How is this the Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion board with all the non-BTC related shit?  Huh

the very definition of insanity
https://youtu.be/kJFuhgeNbSE

Surely that was an uncomfortable exchange, since it seems that the witness should have had been prepared to answer the question - especially to be able to make a distinction between biology and social construction.

So if someone is claiming to be wanting to promote science then there needs to be some answers in regards to how social construction is seeming to increasingly butt up against biological realities.

It is not comfortable, and it is likely that quite a few folks are dealing with these conflated ideas in their family and friend situations and even questions about kids in schools being pushed ideas that are ongoingly conflating social construction with physical realities.

By the way, I have friends and relatives who are propagating these kinds of ideas that conflate sex and gender - and I find it quite frustrated to figure out how to deal with it, since friends and relatives are friends and relatives of the people who are propagating conflation ideas, so there are tensions to bring up the ideas or to discuss them or to pursue the discussion or even to divert discussions into these areas... and perhaps there are normal reactions to attempt to avoid conflict, so then each of us might just accept that each of us has the right to do or think what we like, yet that is part of the problem too.. I even have young members of family thinking about gender affirming procedures.. which is greatly troubling...and even troubling that medical establishments are allowed to perform such procedures on minors, since they are irreversible.
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How is this the Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion board with all the non-BTC related shit?  Huh

the very definition of insanity
https://youtu.be/kJFuhgeNbSE

Surely that was an uncomfortable exchange, since it seems that the witness should have had been prepared to answer the question - especially to be able to make a distinction between biology and social construction.

So if someone is claiming to be wanting to promote science then there needs to be some answers in regards to how social construction is seeming to increasingly butt up against biological realities.

It is not comfortable, and it is likely that quite a few folks are dealing with these conflated ideas in their family and friend situations and even questions about kids in schools being pushed ideas that are ongoingly conflating social construction with physical realities.

By the way, I have friends and relatives who are propagating these kinds of ideas that conflate sex and gender - and I find it quite frustrated to figure out how to deal with it, since friends and relatives are friends and relatives of the people who are propagating conflation ideas, so there are tensions to bring up the ideas or to discuss them or to pursue the discussion or even to divert discussions into these areas... and perhaps there are normal reactions to attempt to avoid conflict, so then each of us might just accept that each of us has the right to do or think what we like, yet that is part of the problem too.. I even have young members of family thinking about gender affirming procedures.. which is greatly troubling...and even troubling that medical establishments are allowed to perform such procedures on minors, since they are irreversible.

The Dean of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's School of Medicine, Dr. William L. Roper, that signed the medical degree of OBGYN Dr. Nisha Verma needs to respond publicly to her inability to answer if a man can get pregnant. There are numerous news media outlets that want to hear from the Med School Dean about Dr. Verma's inability to answer if a man can get pregnant  




Video of her being asked repeatedly if a man can get pregnant: https://youtu.be/wa4LxrZm66c?t=2
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Surely that was an uncomfortable exchange, since it seems that the witness should have had been prepared to answer the question - especially to be able to make a distinction between biology and social construction.

So if someone is claiming to be wanting to promote science then there needs to be some answers in regards to how social construction is seeming to increasingly butt up against biological realities.

It is not comfortable, and it is likely that quite a few folks are dealing with these conflated ideas in their family and friend situations and even questions about kids in schools being pushed ideas that are ongoingly conflating social construction with physical realities.

By the way, I have friends and relatives who are propagating these kinds of ideas that conflate sex and gender - and I find it quite frustrated to figure out how to deal with it, since friends and relatives are friends and relatives of the people who are propagating conflation ideas, so there are tensions to bring up the ideas or to discuss them or to pursue the discussion or even to divert discussions into these areas... and perhaps there are normal reactions to attempt to avoid conflict, so then each of us might just accept that each of us has the right to do or think what we like, yet that is part of the problem too.. I even have young members of family thinking about gender affirming procedures.. which is greatly troubling...and even troubling that medical establishments are allowed to perform such procedures on minors, since they are irreversible.
You are absolutely right. In today’s era, the quality of education in schools and colleges is declining. Behind the development of the modern world lies a vast reservoir of knowledge, and that is science. Science has taken human life far forward. From social activities to every aspect of daily life, the influence of science is evident. Today, the practice and application of science are more widespread across the world.
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You are absolutely right. In today’s era, the quality of education in schools and colleges is declining. Behind the development of the modern world lies a vast reservoir of knowledge, and that is science. Science has taken human life far forward. From social activities to every aspect of daily life, the influence of science is evident. Today, the practice and application of science are more widespread across the world.

There has probably always been a decently high level of politics and social priorities surrounding definitions of science, the application of science and how much priority is given to certain kinds of sciences as compared with other kinds of sciences.

It might not be possible to completely remove politics, social preferences and disputes about priorities from science and/or its application.  Of course, there are ethical and moral questions that come up on a fairly frequent basis too, and people don't necessarily agree on the answers to moral/ethical questions, even if there might be some agreement on some of the basic ones, yet even something like "first, do no harm" can be disputed in regards to whether there is harm and the kinds of arguable harm.

Many times we might say that we don't want government involved in family matters or even interfering with personal choices, yet something like reproduction has social ramification - and surely, even if we are walking down the street, we would not want to be attacked for our appearance or even for our personal and/or private behaviors, yet if we are walking down the street we are no longer in a private space.

I am not even proclaiming that social input and/or politics needs to be applied to all areas of science, and surely some areas are likely not very disputed.

If we go to attempts to apply science and math to money and try to take people out of the equation (or at least to reduce some of the people influences), even bitcoin is not completely removed from politics and/or social preferences.  

Of course, many of us invest in bitcoin, since we are thinking that its maths and sciences put checks on human interventions and attempt to make humans more responsible by imposing monetary limitations and digital scarcity - even though there are preexisting financial instruments that attempt to challenge bitcoin's digital scarcity and potentially attempt to undermine the various other incentive systems that are already built into bitcoin, including the difficulty adjustment already built into miner input into bitcoin.  

Perhaps we are investing into bitcoin because we think that maths and sciences around bitcoin are going to have some level of success in putting checks on social/political systems in regards to money and information systems, even though bitcoin does not seem likely to be able to completely remove the existence and/or the interactions with it from social/political systems.
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How is this the Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion board with all the non-BTC related shit?  Huh

the very definition of insanity
https://youtu.be/kJFuhgeNbSE

Surely that was an uncomfortable exchange, since it seems that the witness should have had been prepared to answer the question - especially to be able to make a distinction between biology and social construction.

So if someone is claiming to be wanting to promote science then there needs to be some answers in regards to how social construction is seeming to increasingly butt up against biological realities.

It is not comfortable, and it is likely that quite a few folks are dealing with these conflated ideas in their family and friend situations and even questions about kids in schools being pushed ideas that are ongoingly conflating social construction with physical realities.

By the way, I have friends and relatives who are propagating these kinds of ideas that conflate sex and gender - and I find it quite frustrated to figure out how to deal with it, since friends and relatives are friends and relatives of the people who are propagating conflation ideas, so there are tensions to bring up the ideas or to discuss them or to pursue the discussion or even to divert discussions into these areas... and perhaps there are normal reactions to attempt to avoid conflict, so then each of us might just accept that each of us has the right to do or think what we like, yet that is part of the problem too.. I even have young members of family thinking about gender affirming procedures.. which is greatly troubling...and even troubling that medical establishments are allowed to perform such procedures on minors, since they are irreversible.


look it is simple if you want a hole and not a pole you are fucking crazy

if you want a pole and not a hole you are fucking crazy.

why is that?

you are not getting a real working switch to the other side
and you are not able to switch back if you realize you made a mistake.


AND until it really works and is really reversible you need to simply accept that 'you can't always get what you want'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef9QnZVpVd8&list=RDEf9QnZVpVd8&start_radio=1
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...
 If I had my land in the countryside, just as I have wanted to have it for a long time,
 but a long time has passed and I don't have it, I would have a tool house,
 and inside that house, I would build a well about 30 meters deep
 to take water for general use,
 but at the height of about 10, 15 meters, I would make a secret door,
 that horizontally would take me to a secret room, an emergency exit
 that would lead to another seriously necessary point,
 and there I would keep my keys... but there would be another secret place there,
...


 You might want to know that Carbon-Oxides and Nitrogen are heavier gases, sinking to the bottom of hollow spaces. So dangerous gases can build up over time (a known problem with wells) from the bottom up. Quite some people that fell into wells passed out and suffocated. As nice this idea is, without proper ventilation, the secret room, or the way to this secret room could become quite dangerous for yourself.


  Yes, you're right, it's need exhaust fans, but for the place to remain discreet,
 you can unblock the exhaust pipe from the secret room, to the entrance of the well.
 and in the same way, an air intake in the room, it is ideal that this intake
 would come from another place..

    And sometimes, it is not necessary to wait for a while for gases to form,
 because as soon as in some places, after digging, gases are already found.

   Where I live, the people who dig wells, do tests, putting a cloth lit with fire, tied.with wire to the end of a rope, and if when they reach the bottom of the well and go out, it is because it contains gases that leave the place without oxygen and then the fire goes out due to the lack, and in other places, the gas turns on and does not go out...

 Yes, I know that there are several gas meters in environments, which should be used, instead of risking an accident when you set fire to see if there are gases...

 follow some videos for example:

This one, with more
than 20 meters,
lacked air,
so it has gas
In this video, with
eleven meters, the
guy abandoned
because of gas,
and this guy was
called who is explaining
about the gas...
and it's already
20 meters long
...explaining
This one apparently has,
 and if it does, it always will,
 so in this case, it will need
a more efficient air exchange
 system in the 'S.room'
 
Test with fire,   ok.          

   
this one lit up and never went out:
I don't know why,
but this video looks
like these stones..
But there are several
serious videos of a lot
of gas coming out along
with the water or with
methane measurements
much higher than normal

 Before digging a well there are already risks, and after it is ready,
 and still making an arm in the middle of the way,
 there will be even more risks, and the risks are diverse.
-And these old tests of using fire, only work when digging.

...
  There is also a very sad and funny case at the same time, a 71-year-old man,
 jan, 2024..dreamed that there was gold under his house,
 he dug a hole of 40 meters in the kitchen, with your neighbor helping you,
 and when he came out he slipped and fell, the firefighters were called
to the rescue and there was no gold,...
dug his own grave hehehe...
I don't know if this neighbor is innocent... maybe the old man found the gold,
 gave it to him and he pushed the old man into the hole... I don't know

https://youtu.be/H3MYiCv8co8?t=18
 
https://aventurasnahistoria.com.br/noticias/historia-hoje/idoso-sonha-com-tesouro-sob-residencia-cava-buraco-e-morre-ao-cair-nele.phtml

So, when digging a well, it is necessary to know the risks,
and there are many of them,
collapses, suffocation/gas poisoning, sudden falls....
...


#:* 'Has gas', is a cheap way of saying that there is something wrong with the air,
 and the reasons can vary.

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The whole time I was bitcoin mining, I had a canary with me.  If the canary keeled over, that was my cue to get the hell out and happened to me in 2014.  I'm not sure how philipma1957's canary is still singing.
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The whole time I was bitcoin mining, I had a canary with me.  If the canary keeled over, that was my cue to get the hell out and happened to me in 2014.  I'm not sure how philipma1957's canary is still singing.


I do not go back into my past to review errors. I just do not do them anymore.

This is very simple stack game  and hodl never sell.

Unfortunately I did not catch on to it until much too late.

If I simply just held my signature earnings and never spent them I would be a wealthy man.

But no use crying over spilt milk.

Just do not spill any more.
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The whole time I was bitcoin mining, I had a canary with me.  If the canary keeled over, that was my cue to get the hell out and happened to me in 2014.  I'm not sure how philipma1957's canary is still singing.


I do not go back into my past to review errors. I just do not do them anymore.

This is very simple stack game  and hodl never sell.

Unfortunately I did not catch on to it until much too late.

If I simply just held my signature earnings and never spent them I would be a wealthy man.

But no use crying over spilt milked

Just do not spill any more.

Phil - I'm sure you're no alone in wishing you had held onto your original stash. For others the downfall was their stash was stolen from them by the Mt. Gox hack.  

The U.S. tightening of financial institutions and SEC regulation will help go a long way in making investors feel better about owning Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

Seems that some years ago stealing Bitcoin was like the Old West where robbers on horseback robbed the Wells Fargo stagecoach along a hidden path in the woods of the money and gold and silver it was carrying with just one man carrying a rifle to fend off the robbers' attack.     
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this bot teaching phil bitcoin history lulz

unreal times are upon us haha
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I wish I lost 100 coins at mt gox as I would have gotten a refund back.

I never lost much if any in exchanges.
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I wish I lost 100 coins at mt gox as I would have gotten a refund back.

I never lost much if any in exchanges.

gox repayment for 100 btc lost back in the day:

~20 btc and the same amount of bcash_lol. plus some chump change in fiat


not bad all things considered, i guess
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