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Have you increased the percentage again mate ?  Now it should be 10%  I guess or has it skyrocketed??

Let's not pretend like we aren't a little bit worried about the price what shall we doooo Cry
I'm still gonna hold anyway, what didn't kill me in 2022 got me stronger  Cool

Besides merely HODLing, there tends to be some value in continuing to buy unless you got enough bitcoin (or more than enough bitcoin?).
No I actually don't have enough Bitcoin, I still buy tho, I didn't remember to add it to the post

I'll correct that

I'M STILL GONNA HOLD AND BUY MORE ANYWAYS, WHAT DIDN'T KILL ME IN 2022 GOT ME STRONGER  Cool
That'll work better Cheesy
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June 04, 2026, 11:43:10 PM

Well, a little bit of good news for those of us crying into our one meal of ramen per day...

 While we're waiting for BTC to moon again, the sun has decided to step up its game and entertain us. Apparently, it has blasted multiple Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) at us over the last 48 hours. Because the later ones were moving much faster, they swallowed the slower ones which should result in a decent auroral show this evening.  It's possible it may have already begun... the NOAA wasn't to sure of the timing on this one.  Anyway, step away from the charts and head outside for a look; it might be the only green candles we see for a few days.

 
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So the little bounce we're seeing today is knocking on the door towards upward, at least on the short term scale.  We're seeing an ascending triangle.

Also, I didn't mean to completely piss off ognasty. I really didn't mean to be a dick, but, you know, tone doesn't quite come through on the internet, all that well.
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In the Grey was good.
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Yeah I grabbed a decent amount.

it also looks like the difficulty may drop which will let me earn some coin faster.


https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/difficulty-estimator

Latest Block:   952410  (22 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   90.5890%  (859 / 948.24 expected, 89.24 behind)

Previous Difficulty:   136607070854775.1                            
Current Difficulty:   138955357012247.3                            
Next Difficulty:   between 125998279673500 and 129990637816508
Next Difficulty Change:   between -9.3246% and -6.4515%
Previous Retarget:   last Friday at 6:20 AM  (+1.7190%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   June 13, 2026 at 5:45 AM  (in 8d 9h 22m 8s)
Next Retarget (latest):   June 13, 2026 at 5:15 PM  (in 8d 20h 51m 58s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 23h 24m 32s and 15d 10h 54m 21s




as a reminder
  we could be flooded with other issues than low priced corn.

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No I actually don't have enough Bitcoin, I still buy tho, I didn't remember to add it to the post
I'll correct that

I'M STILL GONNA HOLD AND BUY MORE ANYWAYS, WHAT DIDN'T KILL ME IN 2022 GOT ME STRONGER  Cool
That'll work better Cheesy

Fair enough, and from my own perspective, it seems that it is tending to take longer and longer to build a decently good sized bitcoin stash,  even for guys who may have been stacking since 2022 or longer, and as I mentioned in my last post, it seems that if a guy had accomplished most of his bitcoin accumulation prior to 2021, then perhaps he might already be in a decently good place, yet if a guy has been stacking for one cycle or even slightly more than a whole cycle, it would be difficult to imagine, even if he had been able to stack 25% of his income per year into bitcoin (which tends to be difficult for guys to reach those levels of stacking), and so a guy who had been able to stack 25% of his income into bitcoin would have had still taken 4 years to invest 1 year of his income into bitcoin, and I am not even sure if that would be enough, even if the guy is able to say that he has enough and he is going to let his bitcoin stack size ride.

Guys who started investing in bitcoin in early 2016 and who had invested 15% of their income into bitcoin for 4 years would have had likely had accumulated enough bitcoin to largely replace their income and to stop working, yet if the same guy had started a year later (in early 2017), he would not have had been able to achieve similar results, even if he had increased his bitcoin investment rate to 25% per year and invested from January 2017 to present while putting 25% of his income into bitcoin...

So there likely is some value in having at least 2 full cycles under your belt, even though guys who started investing a year or so prior to 2017 would have had likely had an advantage over those guys who started investing in bitcoin in 2017 or thereafter - even though I would still argue that if a guy were able to muster up something like 50% of his income per year for the 4 years between the beginning of 2017 and the end of 2020 (which would equal 2 years of his income invested into bitcoin in those 4 years, then he largely would have had been in quite a comfortable position to be able to quit his job (at least by now after waiting one more cycle or so).. So, I suppose my point is that it tends to take time, and yeah, past results do not guarantee future results because the returns seem to be ongoingly diminishing (at least up until now).
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correction

flooded with issues other than lower price corn.


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Well, a little bit of good news for those of us crying into our one meal of ramen per day...

 While we're waiting for BTC to moon again, the sun has decided to step up its game and entertain us. Apparently, it has blasted multiple Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) at us over the last 48 hours. Because the later ones were moving much faster, they swallowed the slower ones which should result in a decent auroral show this evening.  It's possible it may have already begun... the NOAA wasn't to sure of the timing on this one.  Anyway, step away from the charts and head outside for a look; it might be the only green candles we see for a few days.
 

Your notice for this event was not very great.  You should be MOAR on top of these kinds of things so that we can schedule ourselves, so for example giving us a few days notice and perhaps letting us know about the CMEs before they happen.   Tongue Tongue

I will admit that I am in a better location this time around (as compared with your last notice.. or the one around 7-ish months ago), and I even might have had forgotten to say that I went on a lil trip to some part of "Oh Canada" in early/mid-April, and yeah it was a wee bit cold, even though I did hit it on a couple of warm days and then it started snowing and blowing, which might not always be welcome for those of us who prefer to be able to wear shorts (who doesn't?).

Anyhow, getting back to right now and the pending CME, there may well be a bit of cloud cover in my current area, and I see that the moon is a little less than half - but even if we do get some clearing of the sky, the moon could end up interfering with visibility? You should be scheduling these events for when the moon is not in the sky....

Let me see.  Let me see.
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No I actually don't have enough Bitcoin, I still buy tho, I didn't remember to add it to the post
I'll correct that

I'M STILL GONNA HOLD AND BUY MORE ANYWAYS, WHAT DIDN'T KILL ME IN 2022 GOT ME STRONGER  Cool
That'll work better Cheesy

Fair enough, and from my own perspective, it seems that it is tending to take longer and longer to build a decently good sized bitcoin stash,  even for guys who may have been stacking since 2022 or longer, and as I mentioned in my last post, it seems that if a guy had accomplished most of his bitcoin accumulation prior to 2021, then perhaps he might already be in a decently good place, yet if a guy has been stacking for one cycle or even slightly more than a whole cycle, it would be difficult to imagine, even if he had been able to stack 25% of his income per year into bitcoin (which tends to be difficult for guys to reach those levels of stacking), and so a guy who had been able to stack 25% of his income into bitcoin would have had still taken 4 years to invest 1 year of his income into bitcoin, and I am not even sure if that would be enough, even if the guy is able to say that he has enough and he is going to let his bitcoin stack size ride.

Guys who started investing in bitcoin in early 2016 and who had invested 15% of their income into bitcoin for 4 years would have had likely had accumulated enough bitcoin to largely replace their income and to stop working, yet if the same guy had started a year later (in early 2017), he would not have had been able to achieve similar results, even if he had increased his bitcoin investment rate to 25% per year and invested from January 2017 to present while putting 25% of his income into bitcoin...

So there likely is some value in having at least 2 full cycles under your belt, even though guys who started investing a year or so prior to 2017 would have had likely had an advantage over those guys who started investing in bitcoin in 2017 or thereafter - even though I would still argue that if a guy were able to muster up something like 50% of his income per year for the 4 years between the beginning of 2017 and the end of 2020 (which would equal 2 years of his income invested into bitcoin in those 4 years, then he largely would have had been in quite a comfortable position to be able to quit his job (at least by now after waiting one more cycle or so).. So, I suppose my point is that it tends to take time, and yeah, past results do not guarantee future results because the returns seem to be ongoingly diminishing (at least up until now).
That's the reality we'll have to accept, sadly we can't go back in time to accumulate more or start the investment as the case may be,
But alot will actually change if the price starts appreciating, so I really think we have to be more aggressive in accumulating so as to get a significant result after 2 cycle. If Bitcoin has a massive appreciation in the next 2 cycles today stackers will eventually be in a good position.

One thing is for market to form a cycle the other is to make the price difference significant to be able to realise a good amount, 2 cycles may not just be enough if the price difference from the previous high and the recent high isn't significant enough, if that is the case 3 - 4 cycles may be required to be in a good position, if you take a look at the last two cycles you will see the difference,




The recent high price difference just increased by 84% while the previous performed excellently by increasing 261%, if you should have 2 cycles similar to the first in the picture, that is enough to be in a good position even if the price makes a future dip, but if you have cycle similar to that of the second that you will require more cycles to be in a good position.
But what we can do now is to hope for a significant cycle difference, and we will not have to wait long to be in a good position.

All I said here is not in respect of entry quality, I'm talking about overall accumulation
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