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Oh, don't be fooled by what you have learned about autism.

This point cannot be overstated, in my opinion.  Most all of the knee-jerk earmarks for autism are caricatures.  And they tend to favor a certain slice of the "high functioning" folks (male, nerds,  socially awkward).  And like all generalizations, some of the stereotypes are there for good reason.  But the tent is just way wider than the stereotype. I know an autistic woman who busts through a lot of the stereotypes, though also they can apply somewhat.  Unlike one of the strongest stereotypes and perhaps even considered a diagnostic marker, this young woman was extremely verbal from a very young age and could show a large language model, a thing or two about verbal processing.

I avoid both healthcare and labels, so I don't know what to call my own neurodivergence.  Nor will I overtly self-diagnose. But as an aphant, I don't need to diagnose my neurodivergence any more than Stevie Wonder would need to diagnose his perfect pitch.

I begin to realize how that one little tweak in my makeup caused physiological changes in my brain because of the way I used it for my entire life... It was an avalanche of dominoes after that point. And in the end, I still remain amazed that we can even communicate with one another as invisibly different as we are...  There must be more common ground than we know as well.

cAPS - Very interesting commentary...  Curious if the 'little tweak' causing an avalanche of dominoes was a favorable or unfavorable rewiring experience for you?

[philipma1957]

Oh, don't be fooled by what you have learned about autism.

This point cannot be overstated, in my opinion.  Most all of the knee-jerk earmarks for autism are caricatures.  And they tend to favor a certain slice of the "high functioning" folks (male, nerds,  socially awkward).  And like all generalizations, some of the stereotypes are there for good reason.  But the tent is just way wider than the stereotype. I know an autistic woman who busts through a lot of the stereotypes, though also they can apply somewhat.  Unlike one of the strongest stereotypes and perhaps even considered a diagnostic marker, this young woman was extremely verbal from a very young age and could show a large language model, a thing or two about verbal processing.

I avoid both healthcare and labels, so I don't know what to call my own neurodivergence.  Nor will I overtly self-diagnose. But as an aphant, I don't need to diagnose my neurodivergence any more than Stevie Wonder would need to diagnose his perfect pitch.

I begin to realize how that one little tweak in my makeup caused physiological changes in my brain because of the way I used it for my entire life... It was an avalanche of dominoes after that point. And in the end, I still remain amazed that we can even communicate with one another as invisibly different as we are...  There must be more common ground than we know as well.

blood, seawater and amino fluids are all very close in make up.

Most of us share links to all three all the time. while a few of us may have very little closeness to the sea they do share the other 2.

I have found that dealing with my demented bro-in-law who likely was always bat fuck crazy has been the most interesting challenge I have ever had.

It would take thousands of words to describe it and likely I would fail as I am not much of a words smith.

Unlike JJG the lord of the keyboard I simply stick with lazy stream of consciousness style leading to a lot of typos .

I estimate 25% of people are on a non normal spectrum
25% on a normal spectrum
and 50% float back and forth between the two.

Also as a person ages and realizes there is not going to be a pleasant  fairy tall ending they can choose to get the fuck-its. which means they may stop hiding their little weird things about them selves.

[Hueristic]

I would just be interested in nutildah's results, or my own score, because i also suffer from "impostor syndrome", which is the habit of questioning your own neurodivergence (which always ends in a failed reality check).

Well in that particular metric you're good bud. I think there's other ways to be neurodivergent, some more fun than others.

But i doubt that a single score (n-gram score) reliably detects complex development disorders like ASD and ADHD, as no existing single score did, so far.

True. It just means some people type more predictable patterns of text than others. The score could be influenced by AI posting, or any number of things.

I think Noam Chomsky would be proud. Just looked him up and he's still alive, damn.

This I would find interesting unless its subjective and would just cause drama.

Who are the most "neurodivergent" accounts on the forum do we think? Meaning their writing abilities and/or posting styles are remarkably different than the norm. I need to test extreme user cases. Saw a few good names floated earlier; I'm gonna add to it:

satoshi
Anonymint / iamnotback
ChartBuddy
franky1
o_e_l_e_o
jvanname
DdmrDdmr
BobClawblaw

how the fuck does this make sense?

edit, guess i should have read the whole thread first.

edit2: I still cannot see how this list can be correlated in any way whatsoever in any shape or form, I think your barking up the wrong tree

Edit3: Ok I think I see that your saying you cherry picked these names not that they are in the same category?

[BTCETFInvestor]

Oh, don't be fooled by what you have learned about autism.

This point cannot be overstated, in my opinion.  Most all of the knee-jerk earmarks for autism are caricatures.  And they tend to favor a certain slice of the "high functioning" folks (male, nerds,  socially awkward).  And like all generalizations, some of the stereotypes are there for good reason.  But the tent is just way wider than the stereotype. I know an autistic woman who busts through a lot of the stereotypes, though also they can apply somewhat.  Unlike one of the strongest stereotypes and perhaps even considered a diagnostic marker, this young woman was extremely verbal from a very young age and could show a large language model, a thing or two about verbal processing.

I avoid both healthcare and labels, so I don't know what to call my own neurodivergence.  Nor will I overtly self-diagnose. But as an aphant, I don't need to diagnose my neurodivergence any more than Stevie Wonder would need to diagnose his perfect pitch.

I begin to realize how that one little tweak in my makeup caused physiological changes in my brain because of the way I used it for my entire life... It was an avalanche of dominoes after that point. And in the end, I still remain amazed that we can even communicate with one another as invisibly different as we are...  There must be more common ground than we know as well.

blood, seawater and amino fluids are all very close in make up.

Most of us share links to all three all the time. while a few of us may have very little closeness to the sea they do share the other 2.

I have found that dealing with my demented bro-in-law who likely was always bat fuck crazy has been the most interesting challenge I have ever had.

It would take thousands of words to describe it and likely I would fail as I am not much of a words smith.

Unlike JJG the lord of the keyboard I simply stick with lazy stream of consciousness style leading to a lot of typos .

I estimate 25% of people are on a non normal spectrum
25% on a normal spectrum
and 50% float back and forth between the two.

Also as a person ages and realizes there is not going to be a pleasant  fairy tall ending they can choose to get the fuck-its. which means they may stop hiding their little weird things about them selves.

Phil - I find your comments about this topic interesting too - as I did cAPS' thoughts.

I wonder if after having a stroke and the brain's rewiring process, there can be a significant physiological change from what had been the person's pre-stroke norm...  

[cAPSLOCK]

cAPS - Very interesting commentary...  Curious if the 'little tweak' causing an avalanche of dominoes was a favorable or unfavorable rewiring experience for you?

That's a very complicated question, really.  There are trade-offs and good and bad directions. Try to give me directions on where to drive my car. I'm not going to be able to follow you very well. It's like eating soup with a fork.  But do you need someone on your team who can see exactly where shit is going to blow up? Many, many moves ahead without having to make a Vizio chart?  I'm your huckleberry.  (i'm gonna be wrong sometimes too.) but just very quickly, LOL.)

So, I would say it has cost me a lot, but probably paid off more.

[ChartBuddy]

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[BTCETFInvestor]

cAPS - Very interesting commentary...  Curious if the 'little tweak' causing an avalanche of dominoes was a favorable or unfavorable rewiring experience for you?

That's a very complicated question, really.  There are trade-offs and good and bad directions. Try to give me directions on where to drive my car. I'm not going to be able to follow you very well. It's like eating soup with a fork.  But do you need someone on your team who can see exactly where shit is going to blow up? Many, many moves ahead without having to make a Vizio chart?  I'm your huckleberry.  (i'm gonna be wrong sometimes too.) but just very quickly, LOL.)

So, I would say it has cost me a lot, but probably paid off more.

Also, interesting - especially with the forecasting or ability to prognosticate. Care to say how it has cost you and how it has paid off? (in veiled or shielded terms of course.)

[cAPSLOCK]

Also as a person ages and realizes there is not going to be a pleasant  fairy tall ending they can choose to get the fuck-its. which means they may stop hiding their little weird things about them selves.

There's a lot of meat on what you said up there.  

I have definitely acquired fuckits in many areas of my life, but I think I have more to go.

[philipma1957]

cAPS - Very interesting commentary...  Curious if the 'little tweak' causing an avalanche of dominoes was a favorable or unfavorable rewiring experience for you?

That's a very complicated question, really.  There are trade-offs and good and bad directions. Try to give me directions on where to drive my car. I'm not going to be able to follow you very well. It's like eating soup with a fork.  But do you need someone on your team who can see exactly where shit is going to blow up? Many, many moves ahead without having to make a Vizio chart?  I'm your huckleberry.  (i'm gonna be wrong sometimes too.) but just very quickly, LOL.)

So, I would say it has cost me a lot, but probably paid off more.

Yeah I can pivot like a mofo. but ask me to lay out a detailed plan ugh.

My wife can lay out a detailed plan with depth of what if ? then do this. so freaking deep it is amazing but she is terrible at pivoting.

We make a good pair. Solving a shit ton of the insane problems her brother makes. Also when she worked I was very helpful for her dealings with management .

It is hard to tell how diverigent from the norm you are. Meaning any of us will find it hard to see ourselves in a perfectly clear way.

Part of my background of:

 asthma at 18 months
 nearsighted at 9 years old
 stoner from 15 to 25
 ptsd issues from 25 to 50
 cataracts  at 51 and 53
 diabetes found at 62
 mild glaucoma at 69 and polishing of the cataracts at 69

colors or molds my way of thought.

also finding my wife in 1985 and knowing after 2 dates do not fuck this up she is the one
getting married in 1986
and here I am in 2026 also colors my thought process .

One thing we all have in common is an experience of living. and knowing it's gotta end one day (or at least change from alive to dead). It's kind of cool to still be in the game.

It is cool to remember tv as a kid channels 2,4,5,7,9,11 and 68 was all she wrote in New York, New York  when I was a kid.

Hell no cable in New York . to what we have now. quite amazing.

When I list my medical issues and realize I would simply be looking at a whiteish cloud right now if I was born a while back in say 1857 vs 1957

AND I HAVE 20-15 VISION   That is fucking amazing.
 

[ChartBuddy]

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[vapourminer]

It is hard to tell how diverigent from the norm you are. Meaning any of us will find it hard to see ourselves in a perfectly clear way.

Part of my background of:

 asthma at 18 months
 nearsighted at 9 years old
 stoner from 15 to 25
 ptsd issues from 25 to 50
 cataracts  at 51 and 53
 diabetes found at 62
 mild glaucoma at 69 and polishing of the cataracts at 69

colors or molds my way of thought.

also finding my wife in 1985 and knowing after 2 dates do not fuck this up she is the one

finding your wife outweighs all that other stuff

as for my backgrounds pretty simple:

i am

annoying
stubborn
easily distracted
SQUIRRIL!
unsociable

yeah that does color ones thoughts lol

[OutOfMemory]

Oh, don't be fooled by what you have learned about autism.

This point cannot be overstated, in my opinion.  Most all of the knee-jerk earmarks for autism are caricatures.  And they tend to favor a certain slice of the "high functioning" folks (male, nerds,  socially awkward).  And like all generalizations, some of the stereotypes are there for good reason.  But the tent is just way wider than the stereotype. I know an autistic woman who busts through a lot of the stereotypes, though also they can apply somewhat.  Unlike one of the strongest stereotypes and perhaps even considered a diagnostic marker, this young woman was extremely verbal from a very young age and could show a large language model, a thing or two about verbal processing.

I avoid both healthcare and labels, so I don't know what to call my own neurodivergence.  Nor will I overtly self-diagnose. But as an aphant, I don't need to diagnose my neurodivergence any more than Stevie Wonder would need to diagnose his perfect pitch.

I begin to realize how that one little tweak in my makeup caused physiological changes in my brain because of the way I used it for my entire life... It was an avalanche of dominoes after that point. And in the end, I still remain amazed that we can even communicate with one another as invisibly different as we are...  There must be more common ground than we know as well.

I'd say that most Normies know most autistic struggles and often debate autistic (and ADHD) standpoints via "i also have that problem, sometimes. everybody has...", but the big difference is, neurodivergent people have those problems all the time. That blurs a lot of insight of the spectral problems neurodivergent people have. The brain is fundamentally wired differently, and the perceptual differences are sometimes hidden.
For example, i wasn't aware of my enormously fast pattern recognition before i went to those tests, where i had to click a button if a certain shape was hidden in a monochrome picture made of chaotic line lines (like finding visual signals in visual noise). As soon as the picture was showing on the screen, my brain outlined the shape in question in bright red for a moment. I really didn't have to search. Hit rate 100%.
After becoming aware of that "superpower" (which is used inflationally by Normies to play down the burdens of neurodivergent people, i may shed a light on this later), i started playing with it.
Though, i would have never answered the (famous) question "do you tend to identify patterns in your environment?" before, which is in every autism questionnaire.

Nor could i answer the question "are you more drawn to details?" correctly. For me, getting every detail and their interactions (which is the key to "seeing" systemic outcomes before anybody else, which you (cAPS) mentioned earlier AFAIR), was my kind of understanding of an "overview", but a neurotypical overview is something really different, because it's a broadly simplified version/image of what autists are looking at.

There are more examples, but as a neurodivergent human, you don't know now a neurotypical person is handling reality, so how should you define yourself. You are the one coming off strange to others, while almost everybody comes off strange to yourself. The neurodivergent "you" is the normal "me".
When you are high functioning, you are able to learn quickly how to act like Normies, but the acting itself costs you much more energy, as you must consider every possible next step, filter every reaction, remind yourself about social rules. Even if you are not aware of youself acting "normie", which i was doing most of my life, you still think you're normal, but just in a more individual way.
The typical question "do you have many social relationships and friends?", i would have answered "yes", when i really didn't have real friends but only four. On the surface, i interacted pseudo-socially with dozens of people of different groups, i considered "friends", but once they were out of sight, they also were out of (my) mind, until i met them again. I never actively tried to meet somebody, but when they approached me, i was in. Every fucking time. And that also was a problem, because when i recognized somebody i was "close" to twenty, thirty years ago, i stepped up to them and talked to them like we have last met the other day. You can imagine how strange those conversations were, even to myself. The good side: I have still plenty of people in my contact book, from richman to con, who i could call up or visit if i need some help, because if i was (acting) close to somebody, he/she really liked me, and most of them kept me in good memory.
A bit of a chameleon life, but i never had the (explicit or implicit) intention to fool someone, but it also made me quite the people pleaser.
But now i choose if and why i become handsome to somebody.

So diagnosis did good things for me, and of course it was quite a hammer in the beginning. And that "impostor syndrome" is typical for late diagnosed, high functioning autists, they tend to ask themselves "am i really autistic?", because they feel they weren't for most of their former life.

What was i about initially?
...and that's the ADHD right there  

p.s.: People calling out neurodivergent traits as "superpowers" is like telling a handicapped wheelchair rider that his "superpower" are his strong arms or how quick and versatile he is at wheelchair riding (is it actually called riding?), compared to people that move around using their legs  

EDIT: When i am asked about my "superpower(s)", i made it a habit to answer with "Hmm, maybe my superpower to stumble over every (mental) rabbit hole, until i realize i have missed that super important appointment i was waiting for since weeks?", or "The superpower to not get invited at my neighbor's parties, because all of their guests think i'm awkward and strange, because they don't really understand what i'm saying to them in small talk conversations? Like 'how are you?', when in turn i tell them about my problems with caring for my alcoholic, demented mother, for roughly 15 minutes?", or "The superpower to recognize and call out thousands of artist and record names when i hear the first beats of a song out of a car with open windows passing by, but everybody else missed it and look at me in a strange way, because we were talking about how expensive catfood got lately?" (and so on, i better stop now).

[BTCETFInvestor]

Oh, don't be fooled by what you have learned about autism.

This point cannot be overstated, in my opinion.  Most all of the knee-jerk earmarks for autism are caricatures.  And they tend to favor a certain slice of the "high functioning" folks (male, nerds,  socially awkward).  And like all generalizations, some of the stereotypes are there for good reason.  But the tent is just way wider than the stereotype. I know an autistic woman who busts through a lot of the stereotypes, though also they can apply somewhat.  Unlike one of the strongest stereotypes and perhaps even considered a diagnostic marker, this young woman was extremely verbal from a very young age and could show a large language model, a thing or two about verbal processing.

I avoid both healthcare and labels, so I don't know what to call my own neurodivergence.  Nor will I overtly self-diagnose. But as an aphant, I don't need to diagnose my neurodivergence any more than Stevie Wonder would need to diagnose his perfect pitch.

I begin to realize how that one little tweak in my makeup caused physiological changes in my brain because of the way I used it for my entire life... It was an avalanche of dominoes after that point. And in the end, I still remain amazed that we can even communicate with one another as invisibly different as we are...  There must be more common ground than we know as well.

I'd say that most Normies know most autistic struggles and often debate autistic (and ADHD) standpoints via "i also have that problem, sometimes. everybody has...", but the big difference is, neurodivergent people have those problems all the time. That blurs a lot of insight of the spectral problems neurodivergent people have. The brain is fundamentally wired differently, and the perceptual differences are sometimes hidden.
For example, i wasn't aware of my enormously fast pattern recognition before i went to those tests, where i had to click a button if a certain shape was hidden in a monochrome picture made of chaotic line lines (like finding visual signals in visual noise). As soon as the picture was showing on the screen, my brain outlined the shape in question in bright red for a moment. I really didn't have to search. Hit rate 100%.
After becoming aware of that "superpower" (which is used inflationally by Normies to play down the burdens of neurodivergent people, i may shed a light on this later), i started playing with it.
Though, i would have never answered the (famous) question "do you tend to identify patterns in your environment?" before, which is in every autism questionnaire.

Nor could i answer the question "are you more drawn to details?" correctly. For me, getting every detail and their interactions (which is the key to "seeing" systemic outcomes before anybody else, which you (cAPS) mentioned earlier AFAIR), was my kind of understanding of an "overview", but a neurotypical overview is something really different, because it's a broadly simplified version/image of what autists are looking at.

There are more examples, but as a neurodivergent human, you don't know now a neurotypical person is handling reality, so how should you define yourself. You are the one coming off strange to others, while almost everybody comes off strange to yourself. The neurodivergent "you" is the normal "me".
When you are high functioning, you are able to learn quickly how to act like Normies, but the acting itself costs you much more energy, as you must consider every possible next step, filter every reaction, remind yourself about social rules. Even if you are not aware of youself acting "normie", which i was doing most of my life, you still think you're normal, but just in a more individual way.
The typical question "do you have many social relationships and friends?", i would have answered "yes", when i really didn't have real friends but only four. On the surface, i interacted pseudo-socially with dozens of people of different groups, i considered "friends", but once they were out of sight, they also were out of (my) mind, until i met them again. I never actively tried to meet somebody, but when they approached me, i was in. Every fucking time. And that also was a problem, because when i recognized somebody i was "close" to twenty, thirty years ago, i stepped up to them and talked to them like we have last met the other day. You can imagine how strange those conversations were, even to myself. The good side: I have still plenty of people in my contact book, from richman to con, who i could call up or visit if i need some help, because if i was (acting) close to somebody, he/she really liked me, and most of them kept me in good memory.
A bit of a chameleon life, but i never had the (explicit or implicit) intention to fool someone, but it also made me quite the people pleaser.
But now i choose if and why i become handsome to somebody.

So diagnosis did good things for me, and of course it was quite a hammer in the beginning. And that "impostor syndrome" is typical for late diagnosed, high functioning autists, they tend to ask themselves "am i really autistic?", because they feel they weren't for most of their former life.

What was i about initially?
...and that's the ADHD right there  

p.s.: People calling out neurodivergent traits as "superpowers" is like telling a handicapped wheelchair rider that his "superpower" are his strong arms or how quick and versatile he is at wheelchair riding (is it actually called riding?), compared to people that move around using their legs  

EDIT: When i am asked about my "superpower(s)", i made it a habit to answer with "Hmm, maybe my superpower to stumble over every (mental) rabbit hole, until i realize i have missed that super important appointment i was waiting for since weeks?", or "The superpower to not get invited at my neighbor's parties, because all of their guests think i'm awkward and strange, because they don't really understand what i'm saying to them in small talk conversations? Like 'how are you?', when in turn i tell them about my problems with caring for my alcoholic, demented mother, for roughly 15 minutes?", or "The superpower to recognize and call out thousands of artist and record names when i hear the first beats of a song out of a car with open windows passing by, but everybody else missed it and look at me in a strange way, because we were talking about how expensive catfood got lately?" (and so on, i better stop now).

OOM - Have you found that it has been both an advantage and a disadvantage at times in adult life? But, not something that can be easily flipped On and Off like a switch?  

I had an uncle the family said had Asperger's (which is now considered a form of autism I understand) that was rather eccentric socially, but absolutely brilliant in so many ways. I think he may have used it to his advantage and dealt with its drawbacks the best he could.  

[ChartBuddy]

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[Hueristic]

Haha, just saw this, had to share.

https://imgur.com/gallery/bf3000-gUaYVXY

[BitHodlers]

p.s.: People calling out neurodivergent traits as "superpowers" is like telling a handicapped wheelchair rider that his "superpower" are his strong arms or how quick and versatile he is at wheelchair riding (is it actually called riding?), compared to people that move around using their legs  

Yeah this is wrong and I never liked seeing this, it is basically trying to delude people that they are not limited in some ways. They are not superpowers, they are limitations..

[ChartBuddy]

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[AlcoHoDL]

Great discussion guys (re. neurodivergence/autism). WO at its finest.

Keep it up.

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I'm an engineer and not a medical doctor, but I believe I do possess certain autistic traits. Also, perfectionism and OCD are definitely present. I'm left-handed too.

While many would consider this a disadvantage, I find it extremely beneficial to my work and life in general. I would even call it a "superpower", as OOM put it.

I don't want to change the way I am. I feel lucky actually, especially about perfectionism. It truly is a blessing, if you can control it.

[WatChe]

diabetes found at 62

If you are getting diagnosed with DM (diabetes mellitus) while you are 60+ then its less worrying then if you are having it while you are in your 30s or 40s. DM need time to destroy your body and if you have good control of your blood sugar then you can easily survive diabetes for 15 to 20 years. I was diagnosed with DM in my mid 30s and I am doing my best to make it to 60s without getting any major damage from this disease.

One thing we all have in common is an experience of living. and knowing it's gotta end one day (or at least change from alive to dead). It's kind of cool to still be in the game.

Leave good memories and try to improve yourself with every passing day. I always say that Philipma is 70 years old and still active in 70+ domains.

Just don't die before you actually die.   

[Biodom]

diabetes found at 62

If you are getting diagnosed with DM (diabetes mellitus) while you are 60+ then its less worrying then if you are having it while you are in your 30s or 40s. DM need time to destroy your body and if you have good control of your blood sugar then you can easily survive diabetes for 15 to 20 years. I was diagnosed with DM in my mid 30s and I am doing my best to make it to 60s without getting any major damage from this disease.

One thing we all have in common is an experience of living. and knowing it's gotta end one day (or at least change from alive to dead). It's kind of cool to still be in the game.

Leave good memories and try to improve yourself with every passing day. I always say that Philipma is 70 years old and still active in 70+ domains.

Just don't die before you actually die.  

Anecdotally, GLP-1 medications are great for diabetics and for diabetics, I believe that these could be life-extending meds.
Anecdotally, it seems that in US, peeps slightly prefer Zepbound/Mounjaro (Tirzepatide) over Ozempic/Wegovy, albeit Wegovy has a pill option now, if someone dislikes injections.

Tirzepatide affects both GLP-1 and GIP and Ozempic-only GLP-1.
Also, anecdotally, the weight loss (if you expect one) is faster with tirzapetide and according to some, there is no or less muscle loss on it.
Finally, these meds also cause a slight uptick in testosterone in men, which is not bad by itself

If i had diabetes (I don't), GLP-1 agonist is one area where spending bitcoin savings could be considered (not an advice), if it is expensive in your jurisdiction, just don't fall for cheap generics, imho.

EDIT: is anyone's captcha so organic chemical-looking?