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[ChartBuddy]

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[Floczy]

I wouldn't want to control the market and say the has to happen, instead "I found this, let's see what happens" that more like it

How are you changing your own behaviors?  Are you buying more bitcoin during perceived bitcoin dips and less during periods that you believe the BTC price to be overheated?  Yet, how are you going to know about that kind of stuff?

You have ONLY been registered here since November 2025, so it has not even been a year and you think that you got bitcoin's price figured out and you think that there are ways to strategize your buys. Of course, you could have started accumulating bitcoin prior to your forum registration date, yet it seems difficult to really accumulate a lot of bitcoin in a short period of time, if that is what you are proclaiming to have had done for yourself.

Buying Bitcoin isn't the case here...

Everyone has the way they accumulate Bitcoin, and basically I didn't say the way I buy Bitcoin is based on what I posted.
I do accumulate consistently via DCA, that is a different case

What I'm saying is that I look at the chats not with a goal of looking for a good buy or what so ever, it's more like a casual thing I do, no goal no plans just exploring. Think of it like looking at a water fall or a piece of art, that it..
I do that and any thing that feels interesting, I can show other people. "Hey look at this, could this happen again?" That's it...

I'm bored, oh let me look at the charts, hmm this looks interesting, WO come and see this... It's just a feeling man  

I am not convinced in regards to your ways of describing how to approach bitcoin, unless you might have had been accumulating bitcoin for at least a whole cycle or more already.

No it's not how I approach Bitcoin,
Sometimes people post charts not because they are waiting to buy or not because they encourage others to do so, but it's just a way of sharing what you saw, just like noticing something in any random picture and you show others.

Everyone invest in their ways, chartBuddy post charts not because he does or expect others to invest based on that 
But it's just something you can look at and be in a "hmm" situation, no goals no plan, just interesting

[Findingnemo]

of course one must note that many banks are now not supplying safety deposit boxes.

What is going to happen if there continues to be demand for such a safety deposit box service?

Maybe demand for such is dying, yet even in a world of digital assets (with bitcoin as the core value asset), there still seems to be benefits for folks who might want to have some information (or back up information) contained in physical locations that they expect to be able to have access.

Banks are not offering deposit boxes isn't the right perception, people are not ready to pay for the deposit boxes when they don't offer what it is supposed to be.

Increase od digital asset could be one of the reason but I guess the primary reason is people losing trust on banks and they chose other places to keep their gold bars instead of the deposit box services, if it lost the banks are not liable to return them if I am not wrong then it doesn't make any sense to avail that service at premium cost.

[ChartBuddy]

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[xhomerx10]

In thWe can look at the example of Ukraine. Everything was fine, until the day it didn't stay

Someone could have two or three backups scattered in different locations.
But imagine that you were out of town when she suffered an attack
There was no way to go back, not to his house or these other safe places of the seed.
He only had the option of fleeing the country.

So how did you take the seed with you?
If you couldn't go to one of the places where you had kept the backup?

well lets go with how much corn do you have.

if you have 30 btc  or more you can have a 24 word seed in a safe deposit box and a 50 character passphrase in a second safety deposit box.

of course one must note that many banks are now not supplying safety deposit boxes.


but if you do have a seed and a passphrase in seperate locations  in New York City

while you are living in Kiev  along with the same seed and passphrase in kiev in two spots.

running from Kiev to New York works.

my guess is many do not do this with under 1 btc in their wallet's

 My previous go-to bank branch doesn't even have a teller anymore and they don't accept or dispense cash so even if they had safe deposit boxes, I'm not doing business there... well I'm already not going there anyway:

 The last time I went there needing cash while they still had tellers (and cash), they gave me nothing but grief - told me they didn't have a lot of cash available, asked me twenty questions and made me sit and wait until their safe opened because apparently they just didn't have 6k on hand.  Did you know that "making my wallet bulge" is not a valid answer?  They also made me use the ATM to withdraw my daily limit of 2k first so essentially they didn't have 4k available  - allegedly.  They said it was all for security reasons but then when the money was ready, they summoned me to the counter and the teller opened a large manila envelope and right in front of me where I could see  five or six wrapped stacks of hundred dollar bills among other stacks of denominations.  I said, "Whoa wait!  I only wanted 6k not 60k."  The teller just gave me the side eye.  I know why they were doing it... they told me fraud prevention and large withdrawal reporting rules.  All BS.  Maybe that's what they told them in their corporate training but the reporting requirement doesn't take effect until 10k - even today it sits at 10k and this was more than 10 years ago.  I'm sure it was an exercise in tick-boxes for her.

Teller Achievement	Status
Forced ATM usage for 33% of the transaction to hit digital quotas.	[X] UNLOCKED
Convinced client branch was "low on funds" to ration counter cash.	[X] UNLOCKED
Weaponized federal AML/Fraud scripts for a completely sub-limit withdrawal.	[X] UNLOCKED
Created enough procedural agony to sour customer on paper currency forever.	[X] UNLOCKED
Deployed the 20-Questions Interrogation & wait penalty for maximum friction.	[X] UNLOCKED
Blamed a time-locked safe timeline to delay a basic $4k cash request.	[X] UNLOCKED
Asserted dominance by flashing $60,000 immediately after claiming a shortage.	[X] UNLOCKED
Handled logical user inquiries regarding the extra cash with supreme "side eye."	[X] UNLOCKED
Provided pure "fuck you peon" energy to pave the way for a cashless branch.	[X] UNLOCKED
Efficiently managed the corporate direction to delete own job.	[X] UNLOCKED

 If you want cash, cash your mother!

[philipma1957]

of course one must note that many banks are now not supplying safety deposit boxes.

What is going to happen if there continues to be demand for such a safety deposit box service?

Maybe demand for such is dying, yet even in a world of digital assets (with bitcoin as the core value asset), there still seems to be benefits for folks who might want to have some information (or back up information) contained in physical locations that they expect to be able to have access.

Banks are not offering deposit boxes isn't the right perception, people are not ready to pay for the deposit boxes when they don't offer what it is supposed to be.

Increase od digital asset could be one of the reason but I guess the primary reason is people losing trust on banks and they chose other places to keep their gold bars instead of the deposit box services, if it lost the banks are not liable to return them if I am not wrong then it doesn't make any sense to avail that service at premium cost.

Okay you have a trezor or any thing with a seed and a passphrase.


So you want to store the seed in spot a and the passphrase in spot b.

The next is store the seed in spot c and the passphrase in spot d.


So i can use 2 banks and 2 safety boxes for a and b

I can use two sets of washers for c and d

Now what is this worth to me the bank boxes need to be different boxes. Cost is over 500 a year for 2 boxes.

I happen to  have a legacy box for free it holds passphrase for my trezor cost is zero.

But I would like to have a second box in a second bank I would put a seed in it.

[Hueristic]

In thWe can look at the example of Ukraine. Everything was fine, until the day it didn't stay

Someone could have two or three backups scattered in different locations.
But imagine that you were out of town when she suffered an attack
There was no way to go back, not to his house or these other safe places of the seed.
He only had the option of fleeing the country.

So how did you take the seed with you?
If you couldn't go to one of the places where you had kept the backup?

well lets go with how much corn do you have.

if you have 30 btc  or more you can have a 24 word seed in a safe deposit box and a 50 character passphrase in a second safety deposit box.

of course one must note that many banks are now not supplying safety deposit boxes.


but if you do have a seed and a passphrase in seperate locations  in New York City

while you are living in Kiev  along with the same seed and passphrase in kiev in two spots.

running from Kiev to New York works.

my guess is many do not do this with under 1 btc in their wallet's

 My previous go-to bank branch doesn't even have a teller anymore and they don't accept or dispense cash so even if they had safe deposit boxes, I'm not doing business there... well I'm already not going there anyway:

 The last time I went there needing cash while they still had tellers (and cash), they gave me nothing but grief - told me they didn't have a lot of cash available, asked me twenty questions and made me sit and wait until their safe opened because apparently they just didn't have 6k on hand.  Did you know that "making my wallet bulge" is not a valid answer?  They also made me use the ATM to withdraw my daily limit of 2k first so essentially they didn't have 4k available  - allegedly.  They said it was all for security reasons but then when the money was ready, they summoned me to the counter and the teller opened a large manila envelope and right in front of me where I could see  five or six wrapped stacks of hundred dollar bills among other stacks of denominations.  I said, "Whoa wait!  I only wanted 6k not 60k."  The teller just gave me the side eye.  I know why they were doing it... they told me fraud prevention and large withdrawal reporting rules.  All BS.  Maybe that's what they told them in their corporate training but the reporting requirement doesn't take effect until 10k - even today it sits at 10k and this was more than 10 years ago.  I'm sure it was an exercise in tick-boxes for her.

Teller Achievement	Status
Forced ATM usage for 33% of the transaction to hit digital quotas.	[X] UNLOCKED
Convinced client branch was "low on funds" to ration counter cash.	[X] UNLOCKED
Weaponized federal AML/Fraud scripts for a completely sub-limit withdrawal.	[X] UNLOCKED
Created enough procedural agony to sour customer on paper currency forever.	[X] UNLOCKED
Deployed the 20-Questions Interrogation & wait penalty for maximum friction.	[X] UNLOCKED
Blamed a time-locked safe timeline to delay a basic $4k cash request.	[X] UNLOCKED
Asserted dominance by flashing $60,000 immediately after claiming a shortage.	[X] UNLOCKED
Handled logical user inquiries regarding the extra cash with supreme "side eye."	[X] UNLOCKED
Provided pure "fuck you peon" energy to pave the way for a cashless branch.	[X] UNLOCKED
Efficiently managed the corporate direction to delete own job.	[X] UNLOCKED

 If you want cash, cash your mother!

I had to threaten to call the cops to get my bank to hand me 26k once, I hear yah.

[Biodom]

In thWe can look at the example of Ukraine. Everything was fine, until the day it didn't stay

Someone could have two or three backups scattered in different locations.
But imagine that you were out of town when she suffered an attack
There was no way to go back, not to his house or these other safe places of the seed.
He only had the option of fleeing the country.

So how did you take the seed with you?
If you couldn't go to one of the places where you had kept the backup?

well lets go with how much corn do you have.

if you have 30 btc  or more you can have a 24 word seed in a safe deposit box and a 50 character passphrase in a second safety deposit box.

of course one must note that many banks are now not supplying safety deposit boxes.


but if you do have a seed and a passphrase in seperate locations  in New York City

while you are living in Kiev  along with the same seed and passphrase in kiev in two spots.

running from Kiev to New York works.

my guess is many do not do this with under 1 btc in their wallet's

 My previous go-to bank branch doesn't even have a teller anymore and they don't accept or dispense cash so even if they had safe deposit boxes, I'm not doing business there... well I'm already not going there anyway:

 The last time I went there needing cash while they still had tellers (and cash), they gave me nothing but grief - told me they didn't have a lot of cash available, asked me twenty questions and made me sit and wait until their safe opened because apparently they just didn't have 6k on hand.  Did you know that "making my wallet bulge" is not a valid answer?  They also made me use the ATM to withdraw my daily limit of 2k first so essentially they didn't have 4k available  - allegedly.  They said it was all for security reasons but then when the money was ready, they summoned me to the counter and the teller opened a large manila envelope and right in front of me where I could see  five or six wrapped stacks of hundred dollar bills among other stacks of denominations.  I said, "Whoa wait!  I only wanted 6k not 60k."  The teller just gave me the side eye.  I know why they were doing it... they told me fraud prevention and large withdrawal reporting rules.  All BS.  Maybe that's what they told them in their corporate training but the reporting requirement doesn't take effect until 10k - even today it sits at 10k and this was more than 10 years ago.  I'm sure it was an exercise in tick-boxes for her.

Teller Achievement	Status
Forced ATM usage for 33% of the transaction to hit digital quotas.	[X] UNLOCKED
Convinced client branch was "low on funds" to ration counter cash.	[X] UNLOCKED
Weaponized federal AML/Fraud scripts for a completely sub-limit withdrawal.	[X] UNLOCKED
Created enough procedural agony to sour customer on paper currency forever.	[X] UNLOCKED
Deployed the 20-Questions Interrogation & wait penalty for maximum friction.	[X] UNLOCKED
Blamed a time-locked safe timeline to delay a basic $4k cash request.	[X] UNLOCKED
Asserted dominance by flashing $60,000 immediately after claiming a shortage.	[X] UNLOCKED
Handled logical user inquiries regarding the extra cash with supreme "side eye."	[X] UNLOCKED
Provided pure "fuck you peon" energy to pave the way for a cashless branch.	[X] UNLOCKED
Efficiently managed the corporate direction to delete own job.	[X] UNLOCKED

 If you want cash, cash your mother!

I had to threaten to call the cops to get my bank to hand me 26k once, I hear yah.

I wonder what would have happened if you did?
I seriously doubt that they would have arrested/detained the "naughty" teller.

[ChartBuddy]

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[xhomerx10]

In thWe can look at the example of Ukraine. Everything was fine, until the day it didn't stay

Someone could have two or three backups scattered in different locations.
But imagine that you were out of town when she suffered an attack
There was no way to go back, not to his house or these other safe places of the seed.
He only had the option of fleeing the country.

So how did you take the seed with you?
If you couldn't go to one of the places where you had kept the backup?

well lets go with how much corn do you have.

if you have 30 btc  or more you can have a 24 word seed in a safe deposit box and a 50 character passphrase in a second safety deposit box.

of course one must note that many banks are now not supplying safety deposit boxes.


but if you do have a seed and a passphrase in seperate locations  in New York City

while you are living in Kiev  along with the same seed and passphrase in kiev in two spots.

running from Kiev to New York works.

my guess is many do not do this with under 1 btc in their wallet's

 My previous go-to bank branch doesn't even have a teller anymore and they don't accept or dispense cash so even if they had safe deposit boxes, I'm not doing business there... well I'm already not going there anyway:

 The last time I went there needing cash while they still had tellers (and cash), they gave me nothing but grief - told me they didn't have a lot of cash available, asked me twenty questions and made me sit and wait until their safe opened because apparently they just didn't have 6k on hand.  Did you know that "making my wallet bulge" is not a valid answer?  They also made me use the ATM to withdraw my daily limit of 2k first so essentially they didn't have 4k available  - allegedly.  They said it was all for security reasons but then when the money was ready, they summoned me to the counter and the teller opened a large manila envelope and right in front of me where I could see  five or six wrapped stacks of hundred dollar bills among other stacks of denominations.  I said, "Whoa wait!  I only wanted 6k not 60k."  The teller just gave me the side eye.  I know why they were doing it... they told me fraud prevention and large withdrawal reporting rules.  All BS.  Maybe that's what they told them in their corporate training but the reporting requirement doesn't take effect until 10k - even today it sits at 10k and this was more than 10 years ago.  I'm sure it was an exercise in tick-boxes for her.

Teller Achievement	Status
Forced ATM usage for 33% of the transaction to hit digital quotas.	[X] UNLOCKED
Convinced client branch was "low on funds" to ration counter cash.	[X] UNLOCKED
Weaponized federal AML/Fraud scripts for a completely sub-limit withdrawal.	[X] UNLOCKED
Created enough procedural agony to sour customer on paper currency forever.	[X] UNLOCKED
Deployed the 20-Questions Interrogation & wait penalty for maximum friction.	[X] UNLOCKED
Blamed a time-locked safe timeline to delay a basic $4k cash request.	[X] UNLOCKED
Asserted dominance by flashing $60,000 immediately after claiming a shortage.	[X] UNLOCKED
Handled logical user inquiries regarding the extra cash with supreme "side eye."	[X] UNLOCKED
Provided pure "fuck you peon" energy to pave the way for a cashless branch.	[X] UNLOCKED
Efficiently managed the corporate direction to delete own job.	[X] UNLOCKED

 If you want cash, cash your mother!

I had to threaten to call the cops to get my bank to hand me 26k once, I hear yah.

 I was waiting in line at a different bank another time when the cashier started telling an elderly man at the counter that if he wanted 4500 Euro, he should have called in advance because they don't just have that much foreign currency readily available.  I'm sure everyone in the branch heard it and then she was yelling to the other tellers asking how much they had in Euros because she "needed 4500 Euro for this gentleman".  I could understand they might not have Euro readily available at one register but I could not understand the lack of professionalism.  "Hey everybody!  Old Man walking with lots of cold, hard, untraceable cash!"  wtf?

[xhomerx10]

these drugs.. are they legal?

 No drugs, just a mild sleep deprivation experiment.

[Danish Ali]

I had to threaten to call the cops to get my bank to hand me 26k once, I hear yah.

Having to threaten to call the cops on a bank just to access your own cash is the ultimate advertisement for Bitcoin.

[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

I rent a storage room with cameras and locks

I could put a set of washers on a bicycle lock.

the passphrase .

[Richy_T]

multiple safety deposit boxes are helpful

Sure

https://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2023/12/11/court-grills-government-over-86m-fbi-raid-on-security-deposit-boxes/

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Pretty important lesson here for all of us, including hesitant newbies.


@WatcherGuru
The cost of iPhone in $BTC:

2016: 1.23 Bitcoin
2026: 0.01 Bitcoin

https://x.com/watcherguru/status/2097744418036232205

[ChartBuddy]

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