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[d_eddie]

In other news: she's going more up than down, but I would save the party champagne until we see some serious volume. This weekend jitter doesn't grant any cheering yet.

[Danish Ali]

Who controls the controller?

If we really have to have such databases (and most gentlemen here would agree we shouldn't), the only way forward is to shift responsibility from anonymous agencies to real individuals. Have the data encrypted with the keys in a few select hands. Have specific, identifiable guys criminally AND financially responsible for any loss. No "I didn't know", "My subordinates" excuses. Any guilty subordinates would be prosecuted AS WELL, but big heads must fall, and fall bigly. And I don't mean only for the lost funds. Apart from the culprits serving time in suitable state-sponsored facilities, those who suffered personal tangible and untangible damage should be able to sue the guilty gatekeepers down to the 7th generation.

IMHO the notion of individual accountability never really works in practice. "Big heads" can always shift the blame elsewhere, and/or have lawyers. Threatening to throw the keeper of the keys in jail wont fix things either, as any centralized repository of information is going to be breached sooner or later. Get rid of the keepers altogether.

[goldkingcoiner]

Hey, before I post a topic in Meta with an idea, let me run it by you guys first:

Best post of a topic should be at the top of first page and marked as best post. By best post we can talk most merits or factually correct....

[Lucius]

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2. Argentina to Share Crypto User Transaction Data Globally by 2029
URL: https://news.bitcoin.com/regulation-and-legal/argentina-to-share-crypto-user-transaction-data-globally-by-2029
Published: 2026-09-18 04:47 PM CT
Summary: Argentina agreed to implement the OECD's Crypto Asset Reporting Framework, joining 77 other jurisdictions in a global data-sharing network. The framework requires virtual asset service providers to report user identities and transaction details, including fiat purchases, sales, and external wallet transfers. Argentine regulators must establish internal laws to collect this data by 2028, with automatic international exchange beginning in 2029. This move aims to close tax evasion loopholes by giving authorities visibility into crypto transactions that previously fell outside traditional fiat reporting standards. Gal Perraud, Chair of the Global Forum, noted that Argentina's significant crypto adoption makes its participation critical for the framework's effectiveness.
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Imagine a scenario where hackers get their hands on all the data that all these countries will collect and store somewhere. For all those who do not want criminals to visit them, I advise you not to find yourself in such a base - because we have already seen from the example of France how such a base in the wrong hands has disastrous consequences. For those who don't know, in France, the law requires you to declare your crypto-currencies, and that data is then stored somewhere - one of the government employees who had access to them decided to increase the household budget a little and sold them to criminals. This resulted in multiple attacks and kidnappings.

Who could have seen that coming?

Only those who realized long ago that most countries will not look the other way and allow the creation of a parallel financial system, one that could threaten the very system enabling them to control us. Of course, they will always say they are doing it because of tax evaders, criminals, and terrorists, but as I have already written, I think there is much more to it than that.

Who controls the controller?

If we really have to have such databases (and most gentlemen here would agree we shouldn't), the only way forward is to shift responsibility from anonymous agencies to real individuals. Have the data encrypted with the keys in a few select hands. Have specific, identifiable guys criminally AND financially responsible for any loss. No "I didn't know", "My subordinates" excuses. Any guilty subordinates would be prosecuted AS WELL, but big heads must fall, and fall bigly. And I don't mean only for the lost funds. Apart from the culprits serving time in suitable state-sponsored facilities, those who suffered personal tangible and untangible damage should be able to sue the guilty gatekeepers down to the 7th generation.

That is a solution that makes sense, but the system can circumvent even that if it wants to. It is difficult to find people who are independent both politically and financially, and who are also willing to shoulder such great responsibility. It's much easier to install suitable people who, even when they make a serious mistake, will be publicly punished, but in fact they will be transferred to another job where they will continue to be useful idiots.

[OutOfMemory]

In other news: she's going more up than down, but I would save the party champagne until we see some serious volume. This weekend jitter doesn't grant any cheering yet.

Plus $82k revealed itself as a tough resistance level a number of times already.

[philipma1957]

@ZynxBTC
Clarity Act fails and a few days later Bitcoin is at $80k.

We also had a Fed rate hike in between.

Two bearish catalysts and $BTC just ignored both of them.

This is what a market that has already bottomed looks like. Bad news stops working.

The multi-year bull is underway.
https://x.com/zynxbtc/status/2100956975303414202

hope so.  I would love to see 90k soon

[OutOfMemory]

Hey, before I post a topic in Meta with an idea, let me run it by you guys first:

Best post of a topic should be at the top of first page and marked as best post. By best post we can talk most merits or factually correct....

Let's play it through...

1. Defintion of "best". Most viewed, most quoted, most externally referenced, most sMerit received...?
2. What if the post gets edited or deleted? Does it make sense to conserve "top posts" if the context and content can get lost/changed?
3. How to score "factually correct"? This would mean a lot, lot, lot of work, especially in long threads, needs expertise and checks by experienced person with a huge knowledge base. Even if ranked by AI tools, who checks the results and makes sure no post skipped through the ranking?

A simple idea hiding a lot of questions/details.

Not that i don't value ideas, but i have some project development background, and most times a project is much more complex in its details than it might seem first.
You generally don't want to have those questions and challenges coming up in later development stages. Trust me  

or am i too serious on this?

[WatChe]

I might have proposed some bets, yet I cannot recall entering into any bets since my lost bet with LFC.. so it has been a while with no bets.

A good approach is to stay away from betting because in the long run you will eventually end up in loss.

For your joy, price has started going up once again.

[ChartBuddy]

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[vapourminer]

Hey, before I post a topic in Meta with an idea, let me run it by you guys first:

Best post of a topic should be at the top of first page and marked as best post. By best post we can talk most merits or factually correct....

nah.

imagine the top merited post 1st here at WO being on page one lol folk be like wtf??

edit: well $100k day was pretty epic merit wise here if i remember so idk maybe it should be.

hmmm

ill be back in 4:20

[ChartBuddy]

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[[btc]]

Hey, before I post a topic in Meta with an idea, let me run it by you guys first:

Best post of a topic should be at the top of first page and marked as best post. By best post we can talk most merits or factually correct....

Little tiny (⭐️? idk) button somewhere on the first page of the topic that lets you jump to the "best" post would be better. Wouldn't change the layout/order of posting that's displayed in the topic. I like the idea a lot (feels like a "top comment" sort of thing like most platforms have), could probably even be made into a tampermonkey extension by one of the many forum users developing that sort of stuff we see nowadays - logistics/how it could define "best" and get that data? No clue, lol.

[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

Hey, before I post a topic in Meta with an idea, let me run it by you guys first:

Best post of a topic should be at the top of first page and marked as best post. By best post we can talk most merits or factually correct....

Let's play it through...

1. Defintion of "best". Most viewed, most quoted, most externally referenced, most sMerit received...?
2. What if the post gets edited or deleted? Does it make sense to conserve "top posts" if the context and content can get lost/changed?
3. How to score "factually correct"? This would mean a lot, lot, lot of work, especially in long threads, needs expertise and checks by experienced person with a huge knowledge base. Even if ranked by AI tools, who checks the results and makes sure no post skipped through the ranking?

A simple idea hiding a lot of questions/details.

Not that i don't value ideas, but i have some project development background, and most times a project is much more complex in its details than it might seem first.
You generally don't want to have those questions and challenges coming up in later development stages. Trust me  

or am i too serious on this?

too much power to the judges that say post 12345 on this thread is best.

you would need to integrate a voting system of 25 judges or more and have it rotate on a weekly basis.

[ChartBuddy]

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