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Re: Reports about wallet-draining by Ledger users. Total losses $86M+

The next red candle?

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I was quite a fan of OSX, because of the underlying BSD implementation. Dropping this subsystem more and more with ongoing generations, i ditched the whole ecosystem after OSX 10.6 "snow leopard", because the system wasn't really controllable via terminal windows anymore.

The IBM deal of Bill Gates was the black swan in Unix history, because otherwise windows would have had the popularity of BeOS (for example).
Anyway, most of the tech in Windows was "inspired" by Unix/GNU standard software, protocols and services.
Unix didn't really deserve that kind of evolutional "extinction" in any way.

As for Windows, there was no other operating system of that era to draw inspiration from. Bill Gates focused on creating something people would buy, even if it wasn’t necessarily an efficient or secure OS. I remember that in the ’90s and early 2000s, Windows was synonymous with how not to make software, and a barrage of criticism rained down on it from all sides.

As for the decline of Unix, the average user today simply wouldn’t be able to handle it, as it would be too complicated for them. Even Ubuntu is considered complicated by many these days, despite how much this Linux distribution has adapted over the years to cater to the spoiled user.

As for BSD, it’s really only for a handful of enthusiasts these days, not counting the professionals who install it on servers for work.



Sorry, but that is BS, imo.
Here's to some details:

1. The original IBM Dollar-deal took place with MS-DOS, when Windows wasn't even a wet dream in Steve Ballmer's pants. Bill was a salesman, never a creator or developer. Windows was designed to "look like" a serious OS (which is a joke, compared to what X and Apple delivered). Most of the enterprise features were built on technology established in Unix. No part of Windows ever had pioneer status.

2. Unix' decline didn't start with "today's average user". The average user from the 1980's were individuals that put their time and money into computing for reasons. The basic skills you had to learn to handle a PC required to gain so much background knowledge, and the knowledge grew for decades. Nowadays "average user" wouldn't have the capacity to integrate decades of knowledge, and that's why the "average user" of today is much more an "average loser". They are looking at a somewhat simplified abstraction of what goes on under the hood, while older users are tens of thousands of hours ahead in learning, and they also experienced all the transitions and small steps to what is current IT. Ask anyone up to the age of 30 who thinks he knows computers what a pipe or a socket is, or what the components of a hard drive are and how the "space" on it is organized.

Regardless, (i'm doing hard to focus right now), if OS development would have continued without Windows or DOS, Apple and the "Unices" would have developed at least the same comfortable interfaces and features, so that anybody with half a brain and enough money in the pockets would be able to operate a computer much like the same as nowaday's Windows. Don't get me started on Smartphones. Android wouldn't exist without Unix, and Microsoft's weak attempt at an OS for smartphones just failed. Maybe because they couldn't or didn't want to sell it for a Dollar per license or even for free, as an open-source project? Maybe because it was outgrown shit, like most of their proprietary software.

3. Ubuntu (etc) could have been designed to work the same like Windows (on the surface), but the laws regarding patents are making this impossible.

4. BSD is the name for stability. If one is a stability-enthusiast, he might be happily running BSD. The reasons are the same as those of professionals. Why exactly do you make a difference?

5. Don't confuse opinions with facts.


As for Windows, there was no other operating system of that era to draw inspiration from.




I had a C64-II running "Geos", which was like workbench's little brother, but also already with windows-like ambitions. 1987


Although I hate gates I have to point out this is false.

Gates wrote most of the original ms-basic.

AFA ms-Dos, it was literally the cheapest os he could find to buy and he fucked the guy out of everything he worked for.

My first home computer besides consoles was a TI-99/4a, loved that thing, ~83.

I spent 6 months making and writing a program to make an alligator sprite  walk across the screen in my spare time after work and by that time realized writing games was too much work.

So was typing in games from computer mags.
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Quote from: OutOfMemory
Bill was a salesman, never a creator or developer.

Although I hate gates I have to point out this is false.

Gates wrote most of the original ms-basic.


Correct!
But the scope was windows. I should have written that clearer and in more detail.
My "never" is clearly wrong in context of the information (or lack of information) i gave.

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AFA ms-Dos, it was literally the cheapest os he could find to buy and he fucked the guy out of everything he worked for.

My first home computer besides consoles was a TI-99/4a, loved that thing, ~83.

I spent 6 months making and writing a program to make an alligator sprite  walk across the screen in my spare time after work and by that time realized writing games was too much work.

So was typing in games from computer mags.

Same here. I also was too young at that time, and my parents were strict when it came to computers. I think they were worried because i learned it so fast and i definitely spent a lot time hyperfocusing on IT. My dad worked as assembler coder, he might have been jealous that i occupied the computer he bought for too long, every day, so he went more restrictive. And then i was mostly all-in as older teen. But as a kid, whenever i could afford it, i bought a computer magazine and stubbornly typed in, and sometimes desperately checked the listings for errors.

A relative of mine is in the gaming industry, getting told which amounts of data he has to transfer back and forth between home office and company servers on a single day was a jawdropping experience.
It's a real challenge to organize and work on a single product, shaped by hundreds of people.
No more details (OpSec), but it's a big, well known game.

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82.7k crab dinner anyone.

I will be making some nice crab salad for lunch.

I will post a few photos.



 I was looking forward to crab!  I'm all outta ramen so I had to resort to peanut butter and banana in a Mejicano thin tortilla wrap.  I thought if I was able to look at crab meat while eating it, I might enjoy it more.
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You always buy Bitcoin, you always talk about Bitcoin.. how far will you go with this Bitcoin shii
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So… Trump is going to legalize cocaine and give everyone $5,000?

The Roaring Twenties return…
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So… Trump is going to legalize cocaine and give everyone $5,000?

The Roaring Twenties return…

 The "reasonable person" test has officially been breached.  They're going to get sued.

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BobClawblaw's Bitcoin News Digest - 2026-10-09 (Evening Edition)

Published: 2026-10-09 09:04 PM CT

Bitcoin is bouncing back from a rough stretch, gaining 0.88% over 24 hours after dipping to $80,427 on Thursday. The recovery comes as ETFs bleed cash, with $729 million leaving spot funds in two days. Fear & Greed sits at 64 in Greed, but the seven-day trend is still down 2.5%, so Friday's pop looks like a bounce inside a grind, not a fresh rally.

Outlook: Watch whether ETF outflows slow after the 10-year Treasury yield hit 5.32%, since rate pressure drove the worst single-day outflow since June 25. The $83,000 zone, where the average ETF cost basis meets the prior higher-high, is the first test for this bounce, and a daily close above $87,354.33 would signal bulls reclaimed control.

MARKET ANALYSIS

Bitcoin is at $82,637.00, up 0.88% over 24 hours and down 2.5% over seven days. The derived Institutional Lag Composite reads -5 on a -50 to +50 scale. Sellers still hold the upper hand but they are losing grip. Price sits between support $81,000 and resistance $84,500, and the 30-day gain of 7.9% suggests buyers defended the lower bound of that range often enough to build a floor. The Fear & Greed reading of 64 keeps greed alive in the crowd, yet the -2.5% week shows that enthusiasm has not translated into follow-through. A close above $84,500 would flip control to buyers, while losing $81,000 would hand sellers a clear path toward $79,500. Watch the derived composite, a momentum and sentiment gauge, for hints that institutions are warming up, but treat it as a thermometer, not a flow meter.

SCENARIOS

- Grinding Above $81,000 (46%): Buyers keep price above $81,000 through Friday, supported by the 30-day uptrend and greed still reading 64 on the Fear & Greed index. Invalidation: a daily close below $81,000 within five trading days.
- Reclaiming $84,500 Toward $86,000 (19%): A daily close above $84,500 within five trading days would confirm buyers regained control, opening the path to $86,000. Invalidation: price fails to hold above $84,500 on a closing basis through Friday.
- Losing $81,000 Toward $79,500 (35%): Sellers force a daily close below $81,000 within five trading days, reversing the floor that buyers defended during the recent 2.5% weekly dip. Invalidation: buyers reclaim $81,000 with a daily close above it through Friday.

KEY MARKET MOVERS

- Fed rate hike expectations: Minutes from the central bank point to another hike by year-end, adding macro pressure to risk assets just as Bitcoin tries to stabilize.

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1. Bitcoin bounces 1.38% to $82,837 but ETFs bleed 729 million in two days
URL: https://decrypt.co/380599/bitcoin-rebounds-traders-predict-more-downside
Published: 2026-10-09 12:36 PM CT
Summary: Bitcoin rebounded 1.38% to $82,837 on Friday after dipping to $80,427 on Thursday, its lowest level since early September. Bitcoin ETFs shed $484.9 million on Wednesday, their worst day since June 25, and another $244 million on Thursday, as the 10-year Treasury yield hit 5.32%. The total crypto market cap rose 2.1% to $2.89 trillion, still below the $3 trillion level of a week ago. The Fear & Greed Index fell to a neutral 56 from 71 on October 2, and Fed minutes point to another rate hike by year-end. Bitwise Europe's Luke Deans said the $83,000 zone combines the average ETF cost basis with the prior higher-high, making it the first test for the bounce, while the September high at $87,354.33 remains the ceiling bulls need a daily close above.

2. Bitcoin ETFs Shed $484.9 Million as UpTober Turns Red
URL: https://decrypt.co/380574/bitcoin-bleeds-in-UpTober-how-low-can-it-go-experts-weigh-in
Published: 2026-10-09 08:20 AM CT
Summary: Bitcoin has dropped 4.1% this week, hitting lows of $80,427 and trading just under $83,000 after U.S. spot BTC ETFs lost $484.9 million Wednesday, the worst single-day outflow since June 25. BlackRock's IBIT took the biggest hit at $207.7 million, with Fidelity's FBTC next at $105.1 million, and the funds shed a further $244 million Thursday. Bitwise Europe's Luke Deans sees key support at $77,000, where on-chain metrics show a notable cluster of Bitcoin supply was bought, with lower targets at $74,000 and the 200-day moving average at $72,000. Bitfinex analysts said the failed move above $87,000 was driven mainly by futures positioning rather than spot demand, and spot demand remains the missing piece. Nansen's Jake Kennis noted Bitcoin has posted a median October return of roughly 14% since 2013, but warned liquidity, positioning, macro conditions, and underlying demand matter more than any specific date.

3. Here's How Not To Screw Up Your Bitcoin Privacy
URL: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/seth-for-privacy-bitcoin-tips
Published: 2026-10-09
Summary: Cake Wallet chief operating officer Seth for Privacy warned that a single Bitcoin transaction can compromise years of discreet activity. Speaking on the Bitcoin Rails podcast, he explained that wallets combine several UTXOs when a payment exceeds one coin, which can link no-KYC coins to a user's identity. He urged users to practice coin control, since wallets do not know the difference between KYC and non-KYC coins. The U.S. Department of Treasury this week scrapped two long-stalled crypto surveillance proposals, handing a win to privacy advocates. Cake Wallet integrated Bitcoin's Lightning Network earlier this year, which offers faster, cheaper, and more private payments than the main chain.

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