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I really like that landmine idea. Could need some fine-tuning or so, but if it becomes popular with the P2PK UTXO holders it would modify game theory of quantum attacks.

Ideally it could become sort of "game" where OGs set up new P2PK outputs and attach a landmine to it ... oh well (won't work). But perhaps for OGs who really own a pre-2026 P2PK output it would be at least funny to try.
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November 08, 2026, 04:27:42 PM

I really like that landmine idea. Could need some fine-tuning or so, but if it becomes popular with the P2PK UTXO holders it would modify game theory of quantum attacks.

Ideally it could become sort of "game" where OGs set up new P2PK outputs and attach a landmine to it ... oh well (won't work). But perhaps for OGs who really own a pre-2026 P2PK output it would be at least funny to try.

Thanks for the idea  Grin
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No loaf is no good.
Half a loaf is for pussies.
I want all the loaf!

Good morning there, Phil.
No, the sky is not falling.
The ground is rising!

Space data centers?
Elon thinks it's appealing.
Brain retardation!

Beliefs are not facts.
Tyrants and priests abuse them.
Weak minds confuse them.

Cycles are lenses.
Zoom in, the Earth appears flat.
Zoom out, it's a sphere!

Apps too expensive?
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QC won't crack it.
AI won't find no backdoor.
Unprovable facts!

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Unprovable facts!

Mindblow!!!!!

It takes a lot of abstract thinking to have the ability to recognize that "unprovable facts" exist, and of course, anyone familiar with a wee bit of history in political talking circles might recall that there are knowns, unknowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns.

In 2002, Sec. Of Def.  Donald Rumsfeld referred to these kinds of intangibles, and for sure the existence of knowns and unknowns can relate to things that we can grasp, yet also they can refer to human actions and even ideas that are in the heads of people that may or may not end up leading to future outcomes that are not known in the present. 

We likely can appreciate that the idea of wi-fi was not in the heads of an overwhelming majority of people before the 2000s, and surely the further we go back in time, the less likely that normies were thinking about the existence of (or practice of) wi-fi...

Maybe the above are dumb idea, since they are more difficult to grasp as compared with ideas that are more physically tangible, but it does seem to me that the world around us affects how we think, and what people are thinking and/or likely thinking serve as their own kinds of abstract facts of the world and various influences on the world and even what might or might not happen that become more difficult to discuss when we are not able to point to a physical and tangible object as a fact or not (although surely there was some use of the idea of 1+1=2 in earlier examples), as compared to if we might be talking about whether tables are more likely to be built from plastic in 1967 or from wood and steel.  Ben, from the graduate, was advised about the upcoming importance of plastics.

By the way, in regards to plastics, if we are eating a credit card worth of plastic a week or maybe it takes a month to eat a credit card worth of plastics, those kinds of facts probably have ramifications whether we believe the data or not.  It seems pretty likely that way less plastic was consumed by the average normie in 1967 as compared to modern times.
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Unprovable facts!

Mindblow!!!!!

It takes a lot of abstract thinking to have the ability to recognize that "unprovable facts" exist, and of course, anyone familiar with a wee bit of history in political talking circles might recall that there are knowns, unknowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns.

In 2002, Sec. Of Def.  Donald Rumsfeld referred to these kinds of intangibles, and for sure the existence of knowns and unknowns can relate to things that we can grasp, yet also they can refer to human actions and even ideas that are in the heads of people that may or may not end up leading to future outcomes that are not known in the present.  

We likely can appreciate that the idea of wi-fi was not in the heads of an overwhelming majority of people before the 2000s, and surely the further we go back in time, the less likely that normies were thinking about the existence of (or practice of) wi-fi...

Maybe the above are dumb idea, since they are more difficult to grasp as compared with ideas that are more physically tangible, but it does seem to me that the world around us affects how we think, and what people are thinking and/or likely thinking serve as their own kinds of abstract facts of the world and various influences on the world and even what might or might not happen that become more difficult to discuss when we are not able to point to a physical and tangible object as a fact or not (although surely there was some use of the idea of 1+1=2 in earlier examples), as compared to if we might be talking about whether tables are more likely to be built from plastic in 1967 or from wood and steel.  Ben, from the graduate, was advised about the upcoming importance of plastics.

By the way, in regards to plastics, if we are eating a credit card worth of plastic a week or maybe it takes a month to eat a credit card worth of plastics, those kinds of facts probably have ramifications whether we believe the data or not.  It seems pretty likely that way less plastic was consumed by the average normie in 1967 as compared to modern times.

Don't forget the unknowable unknowns!

In 1931, Kurt Gödel proved that, in any consistent mathematical system complex enough to do basic arithmetic, there will always be true statements that cannot be proven using the rules of that system. In layman's terms, there are unknowable truths (or, to quote my last haiku, "unprovable facts").

My last haiku's statements "QC won't crack it." and "AI won't find no backdoor." are mere beliefs. My beliefs, and, I'm sure, many coiners' beliefs too. But I decided to poetically call them "unprovable facts," to add strength to the statements.
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Don't forget the unknowable unknowns!

 Grin
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The truth currently holds only a small amount of weight.

They're making a loud noise out there.

Suddenly, news of hackers is trending.

It's important to secure assets as best as possible for now, we're fighting the exchanges and the hackers.
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Ouch, what's up again Buddy?
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Ouch, what's up again Buddy?

Binance is looking to buy $1bil worth of various coins OTC, hence it is in its interest to "drop" the price.
Strictly IMHO.

EDIT: AI informs me that the average industry-wide btc cost to mine is $75-82.5K.
I think that they could survive at 75, but come Spring 2028, it needs to be about 150K.

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Ouch, what's up again Buddy?

Binance is looking to buy $1bil worth of various coins OTC, hence it is in its interest to "drop" the price.
Strictly IMHO.

EDIT: AI informs me that the average industry-wide btc cost to mine is $75-82.5K.
I think that they could survive at 75, but come Spring 2028, it needs to be about 150K.



I guess we will test Phils theory then.
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No loaf is no good.
Half a loaf is for pussies.
I want all the loaf!

Good morning there, Phil.
No, the sky is not falling.
The ground is rising!

Space data centers?
Elon thinks it's appealing.
Brain retardation!

Beliefs are not facts.
Tyrants and priests abuse them.
Weak minds confuse them.

Cycles are lenses.
Zoom in, the Earth appears flat.
Zoom out, it's a sphere!

Apps too expensive?
Vibe code the shit out of 'em.
Better, legal, free!

QC won't crack it.
AI won't find no backdoor.
Unprovable facts!

#7wodigestsundayhaikus

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Pussies be good eating bro
i will protect it.


So as I still say
Half a loaf is better than
No loaf at all bro
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