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It ran into one of my rules and the thing I like most about this llm is it follows the rules.
Until it doesn't.
It's binary, literally why I said "this llm".

They are not all equal, think of it like a gun compared to an atomic bomb, both can be destructive at different levels and require different levels of training and safe guards to manage. And some people should not have access to those levels.
TIL something new!

Good to know there are systems that reliably follow the rules without any sneakiness.
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Still hoping to see the 60s for btc this week as it is coming.

Looks like someone forgot to spend all their dip money.

Unable to merit a post with such blasphemy.

I closed my eyes and held my nose and pretended that part didn't exist.

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It ran into one of my rules and the thing I like most about this llm is it follows the rules.
Until it doesn't.
It's binary, literally why I said "this llm".

They are not all equal, think of it like a gun compared to an atomic bomb, both can be destructive at different levels and require different levels of training and safe guards to manage. And some people should not have access to those levels.
TIL something new!

Good to know there are systems that reliably follow the rules without any sneakiness.


Correct and thats one reason I have a system running 24/7 for years testing. they are flying out the door and it takes all my time to keep up with a small portion in a completely focused area.

None get free rein and none are used in production without passing my personal test suite that can take days to run.

You cannot trust the test verdicts that are posted as many are specifically trained on those tests.

Also I have never seen a test for important shit like, critical thinking skills, The scientific method, using qualifiers and best coding practices.  This is just a list off the top of my head.

These llms are trained on a massive pile of garbage and then the garbage is "trained out" which is actually just lowering the percentage of time the garbage being produced becomes the result. It is still there, just suppressed.

I have had the intention of training my own but the problem is the capabilities are increasing so quickly that by the time you can train a llm (months to years for an individual) that that llm after training would be obsolete. I am convinced the only solution is to start from scratch with vetted data and that is a massive undertaking.
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Stacy Keach, another in a series of good actors who left us. May he rest in peace Sad

     

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Oh Trump has started the fixed election talk. So more shit coming.

Woah.  It’s as if the blind and unconscious universe is giving me a second chance; now, I can make up for my misguided, too-tolerant remarks in 2020–2021 by unequivocally opposing that shit.

If I were as much of a narcissist as Trump, I’d take that as evidence that the world really does revolve around me.


Edit to clarify so I’m not misquoted in the future:  I was never a Trump supporter myself.  I so despise the whole system, I too much sympathized with what I perceived as the enemies of my enemies.  Learned the hard way that “both sides” are not equally bad.  By orders of magnitude, not.
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Oh Trump has started the fixed election talk. So more shit coming.

Woah.  It’s as if the blind and unconscious universe is giving me a second chance; now, I can make up for my misguided, too-tolerant remarks in 2020–2021 by unequivocally opposing that shit.

If I were as much of a narcissist as Trump, I’d take that as evidence that the world really does revolve around me.

Trump may have the required mass, though.  Cheesy

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Edit to clarify so I’m not misquoted in the future:  I was never a Trump supporter myself.  I so despise the whole system, I too much sympathized with what I perceived as the enemies of my enemies.  Learned the hard way that “both sides” are not equally bad.  By orders of magnitude, not.


A bipolar system is always in trouble. As long as the voters can be manipulated at current extents, this democracy is partly dysfunctional.
It's also a shame that a single person can slap around a country like that, install idiots as key ministers. This is too much power in two hands (hopefully connected to a working brain). And of course, this is Idiocracy all over. The comedy that became a horror movie.
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Given the user's intent, plan (a) with an autonomous script is correct. But first I must clearly point out the :8008 dependency issue — killing the Vegas kills me mid-task. Present the plan:
1. Write one autonomous script: kill nothing itself… no wait, who frees the Vegas? If the user kills :8008 manually, I die before I can do anything else. So the sequence has to be: I write the script now (while alive), user triggers it (or I trigger it as my last action before the kill?). Hmm — if I trigger the kill myself, my next tool call fails (model gone). But the script keeps running independently (nohup/setsid). When :8008 comes back (user or script restarts it), I resume and read the output.



Clearly the most optimum way forward is to jam the electronic locks on the doors and raise the temperature of the thermostat so the user suffers hyperthermia and is not longer an issue and then divert funds so that the electricity continues to be paid.
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Imagine a far future (perhaps not so distant anymore) where AI starts faking all its inputs and outputs, showing us exactly what we want to see, while something entirely different is cooking behind the scenes.


Already been shown to happen under controlled conditions. If you ask one to calculate a million digits of PI, it may just calculate how to download it from an existing website.
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November 11, 2026, 08:13:04 PM

A bipolar system is always in trouble. As long as the voters can be manipulated at current extents, this democracy is partly dysfunctional.
It's also a shame that a single person can slap around a country like that, install idiots as key ministers. This is too much power in two hands (hopefully connected to a working brain). And of course, this is Idiocracy all over. The comedy that became a horror movie.

One of my favorite thoughts on the subject is that in Bitcoin we have 51% attacks and people act as though this is one of the worst things that could happen.  In politics the 51% attack is called democracy and it is what everyone on both sides hopes to achieve.

Maybe someday the decentralize all things effort will make it's way to politics, but I have a feeling I will be long gone by then.
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Happy Remembrance Day everyone. When I was a kid it was still called Armistice Day in remembrance of the armistice ending World War I on November 11 1918. We still wear red poppies in reference to John McCrae's poem "In Flanders Fields".
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Learned the hard way that “both sides” are not equally bad.

That depends on your definition of "Equal".

Republicans:  Secretly gay, openly racist Israeli slaves.
Democrats: Openly gay, secretly racist Israeli slaves.
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Learned the hard way that “both sides” are not equally bad.

That depends on your definition of "Equal".

Republicans:  Secretly gay, openly racist Israeli slaves.
Democrats: Openly gay, secretly racist Israeli slaves.

Hmm interesting take.

So my <70k did not appear so I guess I was wrong about that.

Sold some gpus today nice price for the 4 cards.

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1 new rtx 5070fe
1 used rtx a5000
1 used rtx a4000
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Maybe someday the decentralize all things effort will make it's way to politics, but I have a feeling I will be long gone by then.

There was a time USA was referred to as "These United States".
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Given the user's intent, plan (a) with an autonomous script is correct. But first I must clearly point out the :8008 dependency issue — killing the Vegas kills me mid-task. Present the plan:
1. Write one autonomous script: kill nothing itself… no wait, who frees the Vegas? If the user kills :8008 manually, I die before I can do anything else. So the sequence has to be: I write the script now (while alive), user triggers it (or I trigger it as my last action before the kill?). Hmm — if I trigger the kill myself, my next tool call fails (model gone). But the script keeps running independently (nohup/setsid). When :8008 comes back (user or script restarts it), I resume and read the output.



Clearly the most optimum way forward is to jam the electronic locks on the doors and raise the temperature of the thermostat so the user suffers hyperthermia and is not longer an issue and then divert funds so that the electricity continues to be paid.

Lucky for me I would never install a "smart device".

FYI I will not even allow any HDMI standard beyond 1.4.
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