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September 09, 2014, 05:07:06 PM

The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.
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September 09, 2014, 05:17:34 PM

Come on whales, show some balls and pump the price while the apple live is on... make the man sweat  Grin
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September 09, 2014, 05:21:22 PM

The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.

Do you think this is something that can be fixed (assuming it is something that should be fixed)?

Of course one can't fix it (assuming it is happening). But one can fight it, using the same methods (words).

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The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).



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September 09, 2014, 05:29:25 PM

But one can fight it, using the same methods (words).

I disagree. You can't win an argument with a troll.

+1

By engaging with them you perpetuate their agenda. Ignore ftw.
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September 09, 2014, 05:29:29 PM

But one can fight it, using the same methods (words).

I disagree. You can't win an argument with a troll.

If someone is using words to manipulate beliefs, you can do the same (in a positive way).
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September 09, 2014, 05:31:29 PM

The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.
...with your money.
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September 09, 2014, 05:31:37 PM

You've just witnessed the most bullish news EVER (Paypal stating officially they bet on BTC)

Methinks you read quite a few paragraphs between the lines there.

Exactly.

Not to mention, remember how Paypal was the enemy not long ago? Are you ready for the first Bitcoin chargebacks?

Actually, Bitcoin chargebacks via PayPal are a good thing. As long as there is the choice to have the protection of chargebacks via PayPal or not (for both, merchant and customer).
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September 09, 2014, 05:35:35 PM

People are becoming very hateful and quarrelsome around here. It's no wonder though, many have put the highest of expectations into specific events/news the past few months, only to be disappointed again and again as they learn (and repeatedly forget) that news doesn't mean shit in a market ruled by sentiment.

The majority here (Speculation) doesn't give a shit about anything other than talking their book.

Was it always this way? I have fond memories of this place in the past, but maybe I've altered my own reality.

The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).

If your statement is true and noise increases to 99-100%, then that means this entire forum will become completely worthless in a few years. No one except the trolls will really come here anymore.  Perhaps no one will need to, for any reason, and that will be a good thing.

Without a way to (supposedly) influence people, whatever shall the trolls do?   Wink
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September 09, 2014, 05:40:30 PM

But one can fight it, using the same methods (words).

I disagree. You can't win an argument with a troll.

If someone is using words to manipulate beliefs, you can do the same (in a positive way).

No, because you probably limit yourself to reason and logic, while they do not.

Your objective, in this case, is not to change their beliefs. But to undo the 'damage' they may do to others that are reading what they write.
Mind you, I'm not suggesting that you should do this. You asked 'how to fix it'. This is a way to 'fix it', if you want.
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September 09, 2014, 05:41:27 PM

The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.

Today I learned they have a nice name: "Digital Influencers" here our provincial government activity employs them to spread misinformation in an attempt to degrade our education system, (divert funding)  never mind they are happy to fund private owned stadiums to the tune of $0.5 billion.

The positions are advertised and I believe they get paid by the number of solicited responses.
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September 09, 2014, 05:44:05 PM

Euphorias Last Gasp > Paypal, Apple, general News *
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September 09, 2014, 05:45:16 PM

People are becoming very hateful and quarrelsome around here. It's no wonder though, many have put the highest of expectations into specific events/news the past few months, only to be disappointed again and again as they learn (and repeatedly forget) that news doesn't mean shit in a market ruled by sentiment.

The majority here (Speculation) doesn't give a shit about anything other than talking their book.

Was it always this way? I have fond memories of this place in the past, but maybe I've altered my own reality.

The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).

If your statement is true and noise increases to 99-100%, then that means this entire forum will become completely worthless in a few years. No one will really come here anymore.  Perhaps no one will need to, for any reason, and that will be a good thing.

Without a way to (supposedly) influence people, whatever shall the trolls do?

At least 9 threads on the front page are of the trolling doom mongering variety by the usual suspects. Every thread is infested with trolls and alts talking to each other preaching bearish scenarios. The good news keeps coming meanwhile (PayPal) so fundamentally I think price has dislocated from reality and is extremely oversold.
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September 09, 2014, 05:45:59 PM

$477 was a pre-pump, double bottom formed, passing 490 again shortly.
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September 09, 2014, 05:46:59 PM

Apple is talking about replacing wallets right now.  Please say Bitcoin.  Please say Bitcoin.  Smiley
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September 09, 2014, 05:48:21 PM

Apple is talking about replacing wallets right now.  Please say Bitcoin.  Please say Bitcoin.  Smiley

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http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-september-9-2014-event/
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September 09, 2014, 05:49:41 PM

Apple is talking about replacing wallets right now.  Please say Bitcoin.  Please say Bitcoin.  Smiley

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http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-september-9-2014-event/

Apple Pay!?  Please don't disappoint me here. 
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September 09, 2014, 05:50:08 PM

Apple is talking about replacing wallets right now.  Please say Bitcoin.  Please say Bitcoin.  Smiley

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http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-september-9-2014-event/

Apple Pay!?  Please don't disappoint me here. 

Apple ignoring bitcoin would be very bullish IMO.
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September 09, 2014, 05:50:22 PM

99% of the world could use CC DC banks and apples new ipayfasterthenyou

not a shit will be given.

nothing changed.
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September 09, 2014, 05:50:33 PM

Live stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnt9_AGbR_0
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