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October 12, 2014, 08:57:38 AM |
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Tzupy
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October 12, 2014, 08:58:43 AM |
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It's time to test those bid walls.
I´m pretty impressed that so far no one has sold a few into it. It took a bit longer than I expected, and I had to go to sleep. Even if this is part of a new uptrend (which is still debatable), corrections still must happen.
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October 12, 2014, 09:00:59 AM |
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October 12, 2014, 09:02:39 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
Total sum of active swaps 21,349,472.39 USD
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edwardspitz
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October 12, 2014, 09:21:41 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing?
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October 12, 2014, 09:42:36 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Bitstamp-BTC-Proof-of-Reserves-May-2014/
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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October 12, 2014, 09:50:05 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" How is the subject of insider information in a totally unregulated market taboo? Unless it's next to a cartoon of Muhammad riding a skateboard or something
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October 12, 2014, 09:56:23 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Bitstamp-BTC-Proof-of-Reserves-May-2014/Yep... one of the problems with an attempt at voluntary compliance to get centralized systems to comply with transparency..... and NOT engaging in shenanigans... ... .. surely looking forward to a day in which exchanges are more transparent... and most likely some kind of decentralized solution will work.. if all bugs can be worked out. I am NOT technical enough to know exactly all of the bugs, but I understand that there are some experimentations in the development of decentralized exchanges taking place.
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October 12, 2014, 10:01:02 AM |
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October 12, 2014, 11:01:01 AM |
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October 12, 2014, 11:03:47 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Bitstamp-BTC-Proof-of-Reserves-May-2014/Yep... one of the problems with an attempt at voluntary compliance to get centralized systems to comply with transparency..... and NOT engaging in shenanigans... ... .. surely looking forward to a day in which exchanges are more transparent... and most likely some kind of decentralized solution will work.. if all bugs can be worked out. I am NOT technical enough to know exactly all of the bugs, but I understand that there are some experimentations in the development of decentralized exchanges taking place. Only one bug: Human greed. Imagine you are the exchange owner. So much btc/fiat in there. Only one hot wallet and the rest on the database... Hmm... let's see what this sql command does... You get my point.
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edwardspitz
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October 12, 2014, 11:12:47 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Bitstamp-BTC-Proof-of-Reserves-May-2014/Yep... one of the problems with an attempt at voluntary compliance to get centralized systems to comply with transparency..... and NOT engaging in shenanigans... ... .. surely looking forward to a day in which exchanges are more transparent... and most likely some kind of decentralized solution will work.. if all bugs can be worked out. I am NOT technical enough to know exactly all of the bugs, but I understand that there are some experimentations in the development of decentralized exchanges taking place. A decentralized solution would be great. They mentioned it here: http://www.coindesk.com/coinffeine-centralized-exchanges-distributed-alternative/ - Accoring to http://www.coinffeine.com/ it is "coming soon". There is not much going on in their mailing list, but the last commit was 3 days ago, so there is some activity. But back to the walls and shenanigans... I think that the walls were broken for the purpose of shock and awe. Most likely by the same guy on both Bitfinex and Stamp. Maybe this was the final shakeout before we go up? After the shock and awe the bullish sentiment will eventually return and we might be allowed to buy the market makers coins without too much resistance (he may even do some pumping to get things going and to maximize his profits). We have a quadruple bottom at $350, so at least that is looking bullish ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We also have what looks like a bearish pennant forming, so that contradicts the bullish scenario that I am hoping for. My average buy back price is now $351.2 and I plan to hold on for that for now... But I will not add to it before I know which way we are headed.
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October 12, 2014, 11:48:20 AM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Bitstamp-BTC-Proof-of-Reserves-May-2014/Yep... one of the problems with an attempt at voluntary compliance to get centralized systems to comply with transparency..... and NOT engaging in shenanigans... ... .. surely looking forward to a day in which exchanges are more transparent... and most likely some kind of decentralized solution will work.. if all bugs can be worked out. I am NOT technical enough to know exactly all of the bugs, but I understand that there are some experimentations in the development of decentralized exchanges taking place. A decentralized solution would be great. They mentioned it here: http://www.coindesk.com/coinffeine-centralized-exchanges-distributed-alternative/ - Accoring to http://www.coinffeine.com/ it is "coming soon". There is not much going on in their mailing list, but the last commit was 3 days ago, so there is some activity. But back to the walls and shenanigans... I think that the walls were broken for the purpose of shock and awe. Most likely by the same guy on both Bitfinex and Stamp. Maybe this was the final shakeout before we go up? After the shock and awe the bullish sentiment will eventually return and we might be allowed to buy the market makers coins without too much resistance (he may even do some pumping to get things going and to maximize his profits). We have a quadruple bottom at $350, so at least that is looking bullish ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We also have what looks like a bearish pennant forming, so that contradicts the bullish scenario that I am hoping for. My average buy back price is now $351.2 and I plan to hold on for that for now... But I will not add to it before I know which way we are headed. Thanks for your insight. Would be great if you could also let me/us know which zoom you're in on the chart e.g. 5min - 3day? re Quad bottom
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October 12, 2014, 12:00:58 PM |
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October 12, 2014, 12:13:34 PM |
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fuck centralized exchanges. im betting even more will shut down.
long live OTC.
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October 12, 2014, 12:50:36 PM |
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Press the uniform. Check the battle plans. Call up the reservists. Arm the bombers and refuel the tanks. Field Marshal George Osborne is going on manoeuvres.
On Monday in Washington, the chancellor of the exchequer will see if Britain is ready for war. A financial war that is. Along with his allies from the United States, he will play out a war game designed to show whether lessons have been learned from the last show, the slump of 2008.
Like all commanding officers, Osborne thinks he is ready. He will have general Mark Carney at his side. He has studied the terrain. He has a plan that he insists will work.
Let’s hope so. Because the evidence from last week’s meeting of the International Monetary Fund in Washington was that it won’t be long before the real shooting starts. The Fund’s annual meeting was like a gathering of international diplomats at the League of Nations in the 1930s. Those attending were desperate to avoid another war but were unsure how to do so. They can see dark forces gathering but lack the weapons or the will to tackle them effectively. There is an uneasy, brooding peace as the world waits to see whether lessons really have been learnt or whether the central bankers, the finance ministers and the international bureaucrats are fighting the last war.
Here’s the situation. The years leading up to the start of the financial crisis in August 2007 were like the Edwardian summer in advance of the first world war. All seemed serene, but only because of an unsustainable build-up in debt. There was a structural shift in power and income share from labour to capital. Rising asset prices compensated for real income growth.
Then came the crisis, which was long and costly. Once it was over, there was a strong urge to return to the world as it was. Countries wanted to return to balanced budgets and normal levels of interest rates, just as they had once hankered after going back on the Gold Standard.
But that proved impossible. Six years after the global banking system had its near-death experience, interest rates are still at emergency levels. Even attaining the mediocre levels of activity expected by the IMF in the developed countries requires central banks to continue providing large amounts of stimulus. The hope has been that copious amounts of dirt-cheap money will find its way into productive uses, with private investment leading to stronger and better balanced growth.
It hasn’t happened like that. Instead, as the IMF rightly pointed out, the money has not gone into economic risk-taking but into financial risk-taking. Animal spirits of entrepreneurs have remained weak but asset prices have been strong. Tighter controls on banks have been accompanied by the emergence of a powerful and largely unchecked shadow banking system. Investors have been piling into all sorts of dodgy-looking schemes, just as they did pre-2007. Recovery, such as it is, is once again reliant on rising debt levels. Central bankers know this but also know that jacking up interest rates to would push their economies back into recession. They cross their fingers and hope for the best.
Meanwhile, the legacy of the slump has been high levels of unemployment and growing inequality. In those economies where jobs have been created, such as the UK, they have tended to be of the low pay, low skill and low productivity variety. Profits have recovered; real incomes have not.
Christine Lagarde, the IMF’s managing director, says inequality must be tackled. The Fund has produced papers showing that a more even distribution of income and wealth would be good for growth. The words “shared prosperity” were on everybody’s lips in Washington last week.
But as some sceptics pointed out, so far the fight against inequality is currently a phoney war. Lagarde talks a good game, but the advice her organisation dispenses to individual countries has not really changed. There were four things that ensured shared prosperity in the 1950s and 1960s: strong trade unions; redistribution through the tax system; higher public spending; and curbs on the financial system. Apart from suggesting that some countries, such as Germany, might care to spend a bit more on infrastructure, the Fund is not really in favour of any of them. The message, therefore, is clear enough. Lagarde et al are worried about inequality. But they are not yet worried enough to do much about it.
This is where the comparison with the 1920s and 1930s gets scary. The problems created by the first world war were never properly dealt with, and it was only after the Great Depression and a second conflict that policies changed and global institutions were made fit for purpose. There is a real danger of history repeating itself.
The Fund, for example, knows that something is going badly wrong in Europe but is powerless to do anything about it. In the rest of the world, IMF policy is normally governed by what the US Treasury wants. In the euro zone, it is governed by what Germany wants. And what Germany wants is to turn the euro into the modern equivalent of the Gold Standard, with every country running balanced budgets. What Germany is getting is a eurozone in semi-permanent recession. There are alternatives to the status quo: full political union; break-up; a German Marshall Plan for Europe; dumps of helicopter money. Eventually one of them will be tried.
Similarly, the IMF is alert to the threat of another financial crisis. It knows that much of the cash created by central banks has found its way, via the shadow banking system, into emerging markets and developing countries. It knows that investors are complacent about the risks. It knows that in a rush for the exit, many of these investors would be badly burned.
There is, though, no mechanism for regulating these financial flows, just as there is no mechanism for dealing with countries when they go bust. The vulture fund case against Argentina should be the trigger for a sovereign debt bankruptcy system. Instead, the global community is sleepwalking its way towards a developing country debt crisis.
But for the time being, it is easier to avoid doing anything. The rich can enjoy their Great Gatsby lifestyles. Multinational corporations can strip poor countries of their commodities and pay their taxes elsewhere, if at all. Living standards can continue to be squeezed. Debt levels can continue to rise.
Only a real scare, as with Ebola, will lead to meaningful action. Until then, though, the Fund can sit behind its Maginot Line and Field Marshal Osborne can play his war games. But be in no doubt: our chancellor is less Monty in the desert than Neville Chamberlain declaring peace in our time. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/12/world-leaders-war-games-financial-crisis?commentpage=1
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October 12, 2014, 01:00:59 PM |
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October 12, 2014, 01:04:10 PM |
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Total sum of active swaps 13,885.50 BTC
It appears that 600 BTC was used to dump with: http://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc.php Who would do such a thing? I mean that is a pretty big gamble unless you have special knowledge about hidden orders and stop loss orders... or is there something I am missing? aint that a taboo subject. Also, is anyone else concerned that its taking 4 months, and counting, for Bitstamp to release its 'financial statement audit' ? Been asking for details for 2 weeks now, and all i get is "its in progress" https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Bitstamp-BTC-Proof-of-Reserves-May-2014/Yep... one of the problems with an attempt at voluntary compliance to get centralized systems to comply with transparency..... and NOT engaging in shenanigans... ... .. surely looking forward to a day in which exchanges are more transparent... and most likely some kind of decentralized solution will work.. if all bugs can be worked out. I am NOT technical enough to know exactly all of the bugs, but I understand that there are some experimentations in the development of decentralized exchanges taking place. A decentralized solution would be great. They mentioned it here: http://www.coindesk.com/coinffeine-centralized-exchanges-distributed-alternative/ - Accoring to http://www.coinffeine.com/ it is "coming soon". There is not much going on in their mailing list, but the last commit was 3 days ago, so there is some activity. But back to the walls and shenanigans... I think that the walls were broken for the purpose of shock and awe. Most likely by the same guy on both Bitfinex and Stamp. Maybe this was the final shakeout before we go up? After the shock and awe the bullish sentiment will eventually return and we might be allowed to buy the market makers coins without too much resistance (he may even do some pumping to get things going and to maximize his profits). We have a quadruple bottom at $350, so at least that is looking bullish ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We also have what looks like a bearish pennant forming, so that contradicts the bullish scenario that I am hoping for. My average buy back price is now $351.2 and I plan to hold on for that for now... But I will not add to it before I know which way we are headed. Thanks for your insight. Would be great if you could also let me/us know which zoom you're in on the chart e.g. 5min - 3day? re Quad bottom I'm just looking at the past 3 days. Here is the 15 minute chart from Bitstamp: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FceYNhh2.png&t=665&c=i_41gsntNWRufQ) As you can see we have bounced off $352 a couple of times, so it is acting as support. Round numbers such as $300, $350 or $700 will often act as support/resistance. There doesn't seem to be any long term history with the $350 area in Bitcoin.
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October 12, 2014, 01:15:20 PM |
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That's just broken up then?
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October 12, 2014, 01:37:34 PM |
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That's just broken up then?
I'm guessing you are looking triangles? Yes it has broken up, but it also broke in a similar way yesterday (from a different triangle). I think the whole thing looks a bit like late April and early May.
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