PenguinDice: An Open Source Bitcoin Dice Betting Tor Hidden Service

[penguindice]

piloder,

Thanks for that feedback. I am still getting familiar with the different gambling-related areas in bitcointalk and where I should post what.

I put 0.001 btc on your account. It would be great if you could try making a few bets before withdrawing! 

And please let me know your opinions after you use the site.

Thanks,

-PenguinDice

[veleten]

the maximum bet is very low-you should increase your bankroll first
as the whole point of betting on TOR network or darkweb is to be able to wager big coins
promote the site ,as was mentioned above,create a couple of promo campaigns
maybe top wagered contest or offer free credit and raise the witdrawal minimum during the promo  period

[penguindice]

veleten,

Good suggestions. Thanks!

I do plan to raise the bankroll / maximum bets. I was hoping first to get more feedback on the site, though, so that I can a) determine if the site is even viable, given all the competition, b) improve the site based on suggestions of people who have used it. I have a few hidden service projects going on, so I have to decide how much funding makes sense to keep tied up in each one.

Your promo ideas are useful...thanks again.

-PenguinDice

[kryptqnick]

It's the first time I see a promotion of a darkweb casino here. I guess it will find some admirers but IMO people are still more likely to gamble in ordinary online casinos since TOR is associated with illegal activities mostly and some people just don't want to download some additional browser before trying gambling. And as you are a new casino, I think you need some escrow for people to know that you at least are capable of paying them if they win. And maybe you should make posts in this thread with screenshots of made payments at first, so that any new-comer would be sure your casino is not a scam. Good luck!

[adaseb]

You know whats crazy is why this hasn't been done before in the past, especially with Bitcoin gambling sites.

Anybody know if any of the other mainstream gambling sites ever had a tor option. Really suprisingly since many large whales probably want their identitiy hidden.

[penguindice]

kryptqnick,

Maybe you're right. People might trust a tor hidden service casino less because no one really knows who in the real world is running it. So if the site ends up being a scam, there is no one to pursue to get your money back.

There was a sports betting hidden service called GhostBet that ended up shutting down one day, and keeping everyone's money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1596747.180

So people are wise to be cautious.

-PenguinDice

[DarkStar_]

newinbtc,

I can increase the sign-up bonus if it would bring in more users (such as yourself). What number do you suggest?

-PenguinDice

I personally think a 0.0003BTC bonus is pretty good, it's just that your transaction fees are on the high side. I'd suggest lowering your tx fees to 0.0002BTC, as unless you pay an extremely high fee (ie 160 satoshi/byte), 30k satoshis is too much and not many people would need their coins that urgently. You could also add options for lower fee withdraws, which would be good too.

Seems like a good game, though you should improve the GUI a bit as it's pretty ugly looking right now.

Could I get the free 0.0003BTC? My username is "Dark". Thanks!

[piloder]

piloder,

Thanks for that feedback. I am still getting familiar with the different gambling-related areas in bitcointalk and where I should post what.

I put 0.001 btc on your account. It would be great if you could try making a few bets before withdrawing! 

And please let me know your opinions after you use the site.

Thanks,

-PenguinDice

Ok Here is my feedback

First it take me few minute to figure out how odds are calculated, odds are pretty attractive. I have also hit x34.650 once 

I tried to play placing on multiple numbers (like martingale) and it works smoothly.

I have started with 0.001BTC which was added by OP and made upto 0.002BTC but game was pretty addictive that i couldn't stop myself from playing more and on end my balance  0.00003626 btc 

I have also verified each rolls i have made and found all of them are pre-generated so game is probably fair.

Few things need to be upgraded.
- Graphics of site (but not mandatory)
- There is no betting history, it is worth to be added.
- There is small v letter on bottom left of the site.

[adaseb]

newinbtc,

I can increase the sign-up bonus if it would bring in more users (such as yourself). What number do you suggest?

-PenguinDice

I personally think a 0.0003BTC bonus is pretty good, it's just that your transaction fees are on the high side. I'd suggest lowering your tx fees to 0.0002BTC, as unless you pay an extremely high fee (ie 160 satoshi/byte), 30k satoshis is too much and not many people would need their coins that urgently. You could also add options for lower fee withdraws, which would be good too.

Seems like a good game, though you should improve the GUI a bit as it's pretty ugly looking right now.

Could I get the free 0.0003BTC? My username is "Dark". Thanks!

These days the 160 Sats/byte is the normal fee if you want your transaction confirmed within the hour. I don't think I have ever sent any transaction recently with a fee less than 50K sats or so. 20K Sat fee is way too low and transactions might get stuck on the blockchain for hours.

[penguindice]

piloder,

Thank you for your testing and your comments! Responses to your comments:

1. Yes, the graphics need to be improved (another person mentioned that also). I am a coder by background and not very skilled with design, but I will try my best to improve things in that respect.

2. You can view your betting history by clicking on your balance at the top left. That is probably not obvious enough. I'll add a "betting history" link in the navbar to make this easier to find.

3. On what page did you see the little "v" at the bottom of the screen?

Thanks again!

-PenguinDice

[piloder]

3. On what page did you see the little "v" at the bottom of the screen?

Thanks again!

-PenguinDice

Its on https://penguinsyuo2gtvz.onion/play.php page on bottom left side.

Update about withdrawal from site
- Fee for withdraw is 0.00035BTC
- I have tried to withdraw from site (0.01BTC) and it went through instantly, site give me transaction id just after i click withdraw button.

- However to view it on explorer i have to enter that id manually in blockchain.info and here is transaction id of my withdrawal from site https://blockchain.info/tx/062e3cca3bc6403acc8a5b2f2f43d70789b4462b2803415348110385b5b554dc

Suggestion: It will be better to have link to explorer along with transaction id on withdraw history.

[penguindice]

DarkStar,

Thanks for your interest in the site, and your feedback thus far. I have added 0.001 btc (more than usual, since you've already given me good suggestions) to your account so that you can make some bets on the site. Let me know what you think of it after you do some betting.

You are the second person to mention the 0.00035 withdrawal fee being too high, so I am going to lower it to 0.0002 like you suggested. I'll do that later today. I may lose a few cents on withdrawals, but if this makes people likely to use the site then maybe it's worth it.

If you could give me more suggestions on how to improve the GUI that would be great (graphics are not my forte).

-PenguinDice

[penguindice]

piloder,

Thanks for the additional feedback.

1. I'm glad the withdrawal worked. I will take your suggestion and add a link to view transactions on the blockchain.
2. Yes, I see that extra little v now. I'll fix that.

-PenguinDice

[just_Alice]

I have accessed site by simply putting .to at the end of the .onion url. But your dice site look pretty primitive, its plain and also quite confusing one. What is your bankroll? Haven't tested deposit/withdraw but you need to work more on your design.

I have accessed the site without Tor using your advice. The site looks good to me, I like the simplicity of its design. And since it's provably fair, like people in this thread are stating, I think you can place a bet even not understanding the rules. But actualluy I think there's nothing confusing about their game. They just roll two six-sided dice and you bet on the resulting sum. The site has no faucet so I haven't tried it myself.

[penguindice]

I have just made several changes to the site, as requested by users in this thread:

1. Withdrawal fee has been reduced from 0.00035 btc to 0.00020 btc.
2. Sign-up bonus has been increased from 0.00030 btc to 0.00050 btc.
3. There is now a "Bet History" link on the top navbar.
4. When you withdraw, the txid is now a link that you can click to see your transaction on blockchain.info.
5. Removed a stray character that was on the bottom on the Play page.

Players, please continue to give me suggestions on the site and I will keep making improvements.

-PenguinDice

[penguindice]

just_Alice,

Let me know the username you used to sign up, and I will credit your account 0.0005 btc so you can make some bets and see what you think of how it works.

-PenguinDice

[amacar2]

Do i have to create account and post my username here to get signup bonus or it will be added automatically? I also like to try your site.

[penguindice]

amacar2,

You need to create your account, and then either post your username in this thread, or send me a message on bitcointalk. Then I'll add the 0.0005 btc credit to your account.

-PenguinDice

[veleten]

ok,I finally got my hands on TOR and registered an account
my user name is: veleten (in case I qualify for the welcome bonus      )
maybe try adding a free faucet that can be claimed when your balance is 0 and gives 100-x.xxx satoshi every x minutes
maybe give 1 unit (1000 satoshi every 1-24 hours or something like that)
other than that,yes GUI is simplistic,but fully functional
will check the gameplay and maybe withdrawals too later once I recieve the bonus

[penguindice]

veleten,

Glad that you got connected to tor and were able to create an account. I have added a 0.0005 btc credit to your account. Let me know what you think of the site once you make some bets.

Good luck!

-PenguinDice