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February 17, 2017, 09:48:47 PM |
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Yakuza do you think i lost my coins forever now?
Hehe. No. Don't worry, tomorrow the mempool will be close to empty and then is when your transaction will get confirmed. I do not guarantee it, but the size of the mempool is usually a lot smaller on weekends. Also you sure you don't have private keys associated with these addresses 1MJF22LL41V1BNdvzucU4z41T5pEoZ5Xio ; 14SqwLchTWUwjK35Vs8cWU9jzZQa1KLMou Because if you do you could CPFP and your transactions would be confirmed in less than an hour.
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February 17, 2017, 10:07:27 PM |
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Yakuza do you think i lost my coins forever now?
Wait, just wait. Dont worry your coins in safe. One time Im wait 3 days until my transaction confirmed. Next time you need pay more fee
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Bakha (OP)
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February 17, 2017, 10:18:34 PM |
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My coins are now safe, but i see that the old unconfirmed transactions are still in the network, will they automatically be dropped and erased from the network or do i need to do something?
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yakuza699
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February 17, 2017, 10:25:32 PM |
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My coins are now safe, but i see that the old unconfirmed transactions are still in the network, will they automatically be dropped and erased from the network or do i need to do something?
They are already dropped from the "network" though they will still stay in your wallet. You should zapwallets. And then everything should be ok.
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February 17, 2017, 10:36:26 PM |
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Well i just made a double spend and payed a 101 satoshi per byte fee, now i do regret and wish i would pay more fee but im still not totally understanding how much fee i should pay.
And somebody mentioned before that Viabtc will not help with double spending.
yakuza is wrong. 101 satoshis per byte isn't too small, just below the recommended. Your transaction should still be confirmed within the hour. I sent this tx[1] with ~80 satoshis/byte an hour or 2 ago, and it confirmed within 5 blocks. ViaBTC should still be able to confirm your transaction if you submit it there. [1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/3c6ae9d94cefb0f10fad3ef6291d5d924ede8711cb2ca78330ee8db7920c353c
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February 17, 2017, 10:40:42 PM |
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My transaction is alredy confirmed and done with
Now i wonder, since i did zapwallett and then made the last transaction I can no longer see the previous unconfirmed transactions.
Do I still need to zapwallet or should I not worry anymore?
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February 17, 2017, 10:46:10 PM |
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My transaction is alredy confirmed and done with
Now i wonder, since i did zapwallett and then made the last transaction I can no longer see the previous unconfirmed transactions.
Do I still need to zapwallet or should I not worry anymore?
You don't need to worry anymore. If your replacement transaction as confirmed, then the previous ones that it replaces are now invalid.
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February 17, 2017, 10:58:32 PM |
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You can try using this site to make the second transaction confirm faster. It might still take few hours though. This will work. It will not. Please read the the whole thread before spamming your signature. Edit: I read more posts of LoyceV and it doesn't seem like he's a signature spammer. Still though next time read a little bit more of the thread not just first and last reply. I did read the thread, and I think you were wrong here: ViaBtc rejects all transactions that have a fee of less than 10 sat/B. And since his second transaction spends an unconfirmed output from his first transaction he cannot push it to ViaBtc because that transaction simply doesn't exist in their mempool.
Double spending doesn't mean spending an unconfirmed output, it replaces that transaction and uses the original confirmed output to start over. Since that one had a high enough fee, ViaBTC could pick it up. Unless ViaBTC rejects transactions that are double spends, but I see no reason why any miner would do that. And yes, I checked the txid. If I'm wrong here - which I doubt - I'd like to know where I'm wrong. I now want to test it by myself. BTW, if you think I'm sig spamming: my campaign manager has a small reward for you if you report me. No need to mention that in any threads.
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February 17, 2017, 11:00:26 PM |
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So I had a guy sending me private messages trying to explain to me that i have a debt now because of the unconfirmed transactions and even went as far as telling me to go to my bitcoin core client as he wanted to help me Sign message etc, telling me to dump private key and all, that was a fraud right?
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February 17, 2017, 11:02:24 PM |
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So I had a guy sending me private messages trying to explain to me that i have a debt now because of the unconfirmed transactions and even went as far as telling me to go to my bitcoin core client as he wanted to help me Sign message etc, telling me to dump private key and all, that was a fraud right?
Obviously ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Please name & shame!
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February 17, 2017, 11:07:06 PM |
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On Bitcointalk: miningdude He said he told a friend of him to help me out. A friend very experienced with bitcoin etc... But i am very sure it was him all along.
He gave me skype ID so he started talking with me through skype, saying he would like a 0.001 tip for the help when i was done helping me, i sent him 0.002 btc instead while he had not helped me with anything at all, and still he was going on about how i must do the signature etc.
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February 17, 2017, 11:07:26 PM |
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So I had a guy sending me private messages trying to explain to me that i have a debt now because of the unconfirmed transactions and even went as far as telling me to go to my bitcoin core client as he wanted to help me Sign message etc, telling me to dump private key and all, that was a fraud right?
if someone asked you for private key it means he/she trying to access your address please read about https://blockchain.info/wallet/bitcoin-faq
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yakuza699
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February 17, 2017, 11:21:58 PM |
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yakuza is wrong. 101 satoshis per byte isn't too small, just below the recommended.
And that's exactly what I meant. Though if the fees are below recommended and mempool's size does not decrease the transaction wouldn't have been confirmed. I did read the thread, and I think you were wrong here: ViaBtc rejects all transactions that have a fee of less than 10 sat/B. And since his second transaction spends an unconfirmed output from his first transaction he cannot push it to ViaBtc because that transaction simply doesn't exist in their mempool.
That statement is correct though it wasn't the case since his second transaction did not spend outputs from first transaction. It double-spent first transaction. Since that one had a high enough fee, ViaBTC could pick it up. Unless ViaBTC rejects transactions that are double spends, but I see no reason why any miner would do that. And yes, I checked the txid. If I'm wrong here - which I doubt - I'd like to know where I'm wrong. I now want to test it by myself.
You are 100% correct on this one. Probably ViaBtc has some checks to see if it's double-spend or not. Though it's strange that they monitor even transactions with a fee of 1sat/B. BTW, if you think I'm sig spamming: my campaign manager has a small reward for you if you report me. No need to mention that in any threads.
I apologize you are not spamming. It's just that his second transaction couldn't have been accepted by ViaBtc.
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February 17, 2017, 11:22:15 PM |
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I trusted Yakuza with all he said, because i wrote private messages without having him replying, he was honest enough to reply in the thread even though i offered to pay for help as i was desperate.
I had you "miningdude" coming directly to private message sending me to "some shady dude" who would help me solve the problem as "he" seemed only interested in private keys.
Thanks everyone for the help even though it seemed so complicated, in the end it worked out fine, i'm now even more interested in Bitcoin.
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February 18, 2017, 01:06:58 PM |
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I might be very new here, but after reading your previous posts, miningdude, i can clearly see you are just a fraud lurking around on this forum.
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