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mr-sk
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April 18, 2013, 01:55:06 PM |
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Lots of botnet operators offer rental service - so who are we really targeting?
In addition, the C&C structure of botnets gets more and more difficult to infiltrate.
Capital markets have a distributed mechanism that allows them to shrug off nearly all forms of DDoS.
As suggested, BTC needs something similar.
Fuck mtgox.
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Dabs
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April 18, 2013, 02:01:06 PM |
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Yeah, what system does Slashdot use? Or CNN.com? (any major news website, most are immune to DDOS).
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paraipan
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April 18, 2013, 02:16:50 PM |
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Fight fire with fire? I don't think it will work the way is intended. Internet provides anonymity and the attackers could take advantage of the same bounties we make to protect against their DDoS attacks.
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Bitmeat
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April 18, 2013, 02:20:34 PM |
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I still haven't seen any details from any exchange to show that they actually suffered a proper DDOS.
Looking at MtGox, their server could only support <40 trades per second, so whenever it went above that, it lagged to hell and they called it a DDOS. You guys just ate it up.
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deadweasel
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April 18, 2013, 02:30:41 PM |
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Fight fire with fire? I don't think it will work the way is intended. Internet provides anonymity and the attackers could take advantage of the same bounties we make to protect against their DDoS attacks.
Yeah, won't work. These guys go through IPs like toilet paper. You'd just crowd the pipes for legit users of the interwebz. |
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Hughra
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April 18, 2013, 02:31:15 PM |
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This needs to stop... These "DDOS" attacks are just killing BTC. When the price routinely drives down, people will start to cut their losses and move on.
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flix (OP)
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April 18, 2013, 02:32:12 PM |
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I still haven't seen any details from any exchange to show that they actually suffered a proper DDOS.
Looking at MtGox, their server could only support <40 trades per second, so whenever it went above that, it lagged to hell and they called it a DDOS. You guys just ate it up.
Maybe. That's the first thing I'd like to know for sure. |
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Bitmeat
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April 18, 2013, 02:56:56 PM |
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I still haven't seen any details from any exchange to show that they actually suffered a proper DDOS.
Looking at MtGox, their server could only support <40 trades per second, so whenever it went above that, it lagged to hell and they called it a DDOS. You guys just ate it up.
Maybe. That's the first thing I'd like to know for sure. Exactly, all I'm saying is we have no idea right now if there actually was a DDOS. We do know that when attempting to trade more than 37 or so trades per second on Mt Gox, the symptoms would be the same as what they called a DDOS. I've done a lot of IT security work, while you cant trace "who" is doing a DDOS, its very easy and common practice for companies to publish details on the type/vector of DDOS attack. None of the exchanges have done this. |
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antimattercrusader
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April 18, 2013, 03:27:11 PM |
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Guys... guys... I have the solution. Just reroute it all to Paypal.  |
BTC: 13WYhobWLHRMvBwXGq5ckEuUyuDPgMmHuK
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Jay_Pal
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April 18, 2013, 03:38:52 PM |
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Guys... guys... I have the solution. Just reroute it all to Paypal. Although funny that wouldn't be a solution. It would be as bad we being DDoSed and unfair. Agreeing or not with their policies, we have no right to desire harm to them. |
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Isokivi
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April 18, 2013, 03:44:37 PM |
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Fight fire with fire? I don't think it will work the way is intended. Internet provides anonymity and the attackers could take advantage of the same bounties we make to protect against their DDoS attacks.
How about voluntarily deleting malware off zombie computers, installing firewalls and antivirus software ? [edit] or just fucking up the whole computer so bad that it's owner realises whats up. |
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leemar
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April 18, 2013, 03:46:58 PM |
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I heard through the grapevine that Mt.Gox has a newly designed logo coming out soon. I happen to know someone working on the design team and was able to get a sneak peak at the new logo!  LMAO! |
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wolverine.ks
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April 18, 2013, 03:51:44 PM |
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Could the computers responsible be contacted and told that they are part of a DDoS swarm and instructed on how to clean their computers and hop to change behavior to prevent it in the future?
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antimattercrusader
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April 18, 2013, 03:53:27 PM |
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Guys... guys... I have the solution. Just reroute it all to Paypal. Although funny that wouldn't be a solution. It would be as bad we being DDoSed and unfair. Agreeing or not with their policies, we have no right to desire harm to them. While on a general level you are correct, and I was joking.... On a personal level, I don't think devoting the life of myself and a crack team of genius engineers to design a temporal displacement device so I could go back in time and cock block the founder of Paypal's father as he was concieving would be at all unjustified..... Just saying. |
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meowmeowbrowncow
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April 18, 2013, 03:58:10 PM |
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"Bitcoin has been an amazing ride, but the most fascinating part to me is the seemingly universal tendency of libertarians to immediately become authoritarians the very moment they are given any measure of power to silence the dissent of others." - The Bible
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antimattercrusader
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April 18, 2013, 04:07:09 PM |
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How exactly do large scale companies deal with DDOS?
Like Banks, Ebay, US Gov sites, etc?
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April 18, 2013, 04:22:47 PM |
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banks can't legally do it. at least not here in the US.
DDOS attacks are illegal regardless of who does it (perhaps besides the actual government who can do anything)
so average joe can't DDOS nor can any bank with ties to the US.
if there is proof that it came from a bank under US jurisdiction those people can go to jail for this
the law shouldn't be selective as to who gets punished for these kind of crimes
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flix (OP)
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April 18, 2013, 05:02:36 PM |
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99485 members on this forum and we can't even get a compelling answer to question 0: Is this a real attack or just exponential traffic growth?
(Personally and from what I've gathered from several webmasters this does look like an attack... but I want proof, not opinions).
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glitch003
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April 18, 2013, 05:36:08 PM |
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99485 members on this forum and we can't even get a compelling answer to question 0: Is this a real attack or just exponential traffic growth?
(Personally and from what I've gathered from several webmasters this does look like an attack... but I want proof, not opinions).
Pray tell, how would you tell the difference between DDoS data and real data? The only people who have access to the information needed to make that distinction are the website operators who are being DDoSed. Without their server logs, you're not going to accomplish much. |
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