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February 19, 2017, 01:11:43 PM Last edit: May 26, 2017, 02:55:30 AM by Dudeperfect |
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I am an active investor at BTCJAM.com since a year or so and recently I found that there are no new listings on their website and it's been more than a month and the situation is same.
There was a large volume of loan defaulters on this site and I guess that they are purifying the system and will introduce something new after the expiry date of currently active loans.
What do you think?
PS : 26th May 2017
BTCJam is closing their business and we can withdraw our funds till July 1, 2018.
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February 19, 2017, 04:30:09 PM |
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If they did because of the loan defaulters then they finally did something good. I personally find this great because there is absolutely no way to assure that someone is not going to default a loan , BTCJam and other platforms only require ID verification , proof of income and online accounts which can easily be faked. If someone want to lend , I suggest working at Bitcointalk as chances that you get scammed are much lower who you are lending to and you ask for a collateral In case things goes wrong.
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February 19, 2017, 04:51:57 PM |
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It is really hard situation for any p2p lending service.
If you try to regulate it and ask for full info, detailed ID and more documents to verify your customers, they will go away.
But if you will keep current level of control, scammers will take advantage of the system. BTCJam is doomed anyway.
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February 19, 2017, 06:17:26 PM |
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BTCJam is doomed anyway.
All of the lending service are about to die or already lost their charm. As an investor nobody likes to invest in some risky loan request. Even if they ask for id verification in many cases borrower will use fake id to verify their account so when they run away with the loan money there is no way to get it back.
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February 20, 2017, 11:36:40 AM |
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BTCJam is doomed anyway.
All of the lending service are about to die or already lost their charm. As an investor nobody likes to invest in some risky loan request. Even if they ask for id verification in many cases borrower will use fake id to verify their account so when they run away with the loan money there is no way to get it back. And if the defaulter gives his real identity, what happens? Nothing!
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February 20, 2017, 12:22:59 PM |
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I am an active investor at BTCJAM.com since a year or so and recently I found that there are no new listings on their website and it's been more than a month and the situation is same.
There was a large volume of loan defaulters on this site and I guess that they are purifying the system and will introduce something new after the expiry date of currently active loans.
What do you think?
I joined BTCjam last year and there were only 11 listings at that time. Scammers are a problem,but i think that maybe nobody wants to request loans because of the bitcoin price increase.If somebody gets a 1btc loan and the bitcoins price goes from $1040 to $1500 after one week,he can`t pay his debt.
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Dudeperfect (OP)
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February 20, 2017, 01:40:17 PM |
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@ Others, Let's hope for the good, yes bitcointalk has amazing culture to ask for a collateral before filing the loan and I wish these sites should do something too. I am an active investor at BTCJAM.com since a year or so and recently I found that there are no new listings on their website and it's been more than a month and the situation is same.
There was a large volume of loan defaulters on this site and I guess that they are purifying the system and will introduce something new after the expiry date of currently active loans.
What do you think?
I joined BTCjam last year and there were only 11 listings at that time. Scammers are a problem,but i think that maybe nobody wants to request loans because of the bitcoin price increase.If somebody gets a 1btc loan and the bitcoins price goes from $1040 to $1500 after one week,he can`t pay his debt. I don't think that there is any problem of this kind because Btcjam has system that ties the loan amount to USD and other fiat currencies so at the end of the loan tenure, the borrower pays the amount which is liable to him in fiat (irrespective of bitcoin price).
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March 05, 2017, 01:33:38 AM |
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Yeah..I wanted invest some bitcoins on BTCJam but nobody needs it anymore ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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March 05, 2017, 02:50:50 AM |
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@ Others, Let's hope for the good, yes bitcointalk has amazing culture to ask for a collateral before filing the loan and I wish these sites should do something too. I am an active investor at BTCJAM.com since a year or so and recently I found that there are no new listings on their website and it's been more than a month and the situation is same.
There was a large volume of loan defaulters on this site and I guess that they are purifying the system and will introduce something new after the expiry date of currently active loans.
What do you think?
I joined BTCjam last year and there were only 11 listings at that time. Scammers are a problem,but i think that maybe nobody wants to request loans because of the bitcoin price increase.If somebody gets a 1btc loan and the bitcoins price goes from $1040 to $1500 after one week,he can`t pay his debt. I don't think that there is any problem of this kind because Btcjam has system that ties the loan amount to USD and other fiat currencies so at the end of the loan tenure, the borrower pays the amount which is liable to him in fiat (irrespective of bitcoin price). Does it means if btcjam will be die in the future? No one is interesting for using it again. Because the bitcointalk is much better rather than btcjam in my mind.
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March 05, 2017, 04:03:16 AM |
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Yeah..I wanted invest some bitcoins on BTCJam but nobody needs it anymore ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) But I suggest don't invest in these kinds of sites because people can easily create fake id's can default your loans. That's why these kind of sites are not popular anymore. You should lend money only if you can hold a collateral in your hand or any trusted escrows otherwise don't ever lend your money.
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March 05, 2017, 03:37:24 PM |
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BTCJam was being used by scammers. If you want to lend, do it on Poloniex, at least they stand between you and the borrower.
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March 05, 2017, 04:24:13 PM |
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I am an active investor at BTCJAM.com since a year or so
sorry for your loss.
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March 07, 2017, 12:04:40 PM |
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I am an active investor at BTCJAM.com since a year or so
sorry for your loss. It seems that now I need to find some alternative option where I can automate the lending process. Bitcointalk is a good option but you have to do devote much time for it (of course it is better than losing money with someone else but still, as of now I am working on some priority projects). Update: I am getting some due repayments (once is 3 to 4 days) but still there is no open listing yet.
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March 09, 2017, 04:49:52 AM |
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This project (Teambrella) seemed promising a few weeks ago and they're a bit different than BTCJam, Bitbond, Bitlendingclub, Btcpop, Poloniex and the others: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398547.0But I still think collateral is a must when lending cryptocurrencies... BTW would it be nice if we could use a decentralized platform/exchange like Bitsquare (now called bisq) in order to run some kind of p2p decentralized and collateralized lending. I long for that...
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May 04, 2017, 11:56:54 PM |
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On Btcpop you can invest in collateral loans, you can invest in shares, you can invest in your Instant account where your principal is not risked. We've a very strict verification system using anti fraud services and forensic software to check documents. Many require Address+ Verification (Sending Letter with a code to the user) before they can submit any other documents. We've an active community who find scammers very quickly and lot get stopped before getting any loan funded.
Since I own btcpop the default rate decreased a lot and loans are overal in profit.
We continue to work on anti fraud tools. I'm investor myself and my own ROI improved a lot also and many investors improved their ROI.
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May 05, 2017, 12:30:24 PM |
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Too many scammers on BitJam, and if they raised he security checks any higher, it would be too intrusive and troublesome. As Omega Starscream has said, Bitcoinyalk is the best, with a strict trust system and a very cautious community.
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May 07, 2017, 12:34:57 PM |
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loaning on BTCjam is same as throwing your bitcoins away in most cases a year ago I read an article about BTCjam and the default rate on loans was over 33% means that 1/3 of all of the loans were not paid think twice before you loan money at btcjam
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May 07, 2017, 05:19:45 PM |
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I thought this entire concept of lending without collateral has been abolished so far. People CHEAT! If you do not introduce some rules, no luck there, you ll just end up being scammed. I m glad to hear BTC jam might be doing something about it.
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Dudeperfect (OP)
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May 26, 2017, 02:52:20 AM |
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As I was suspecting, I was not investing any more in BTCjam's listing as I was suspecting something unusual and yesterday I have withdrawn my remaining funds recovered so far and today I got a mail from BTCjam that they are closing the business. If you have any funds lying with them then you can withdraw it until July 1, 2018. I am on a breakeven point at this moment, the interest earned is almost equal to the bad debts so it was an average experience for me, still appreciate the efforts of BTCjam.
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May 26, 2017, 05:15:26 AM |
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I am on a breakeven point at this moment, the interest earned is almost equal to the bad debts so it was an average experience for me, still appreciate the efforts of BTCjam.
But there are still many people who are in loss due to bad debt. Personally I think BtcJam is complete failure and they may come up with new improved and secure lending platform. Almost all P2P lending platforms are struggling to give secure lending service and nobody have found a proper way to do it.
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