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Author Topic: Is miningunited.com a SCAM, turning .1 bitcoins into .137 for almost free?  (Read 28694 times)
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May 17, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
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this wouldn"t be the owner would it. If so this guy would be easy to identify. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BitCoin-Mining-1250Mh-s-Generate-0-0755-BitCoins-ONLY-0-05-BitCoins-/111054423420


That would be too easy wouldn't it?  Smiley

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BitCoins-com-PREMIUM-DOMAIN-NAME-DOT-COM-1000-BitCoin-LiteCoin-Peer-Cash-/121095169454

In addition to his Ebay promotion of MU, he was auctioning Bitcoin related domains. They were all registered April 13th by the same person. Miningunited.com was registered 2 days later using Domain by Proxy. Connected? I don't know, but it's certainly not convincing.

I'm still waiting to see how this turns out. This is potentially the first BTC scam that I've fallen for, so these are exciting times.  I had a return on a .05 investment with MU, but lost .25 to this latest event.

Sorry to those who may have lost more.
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May 17, 2013, 10:40:51 AM
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The site closed...

Says it will not return anything to anyone ...
Says it has to do with the other site "bitcheap"

In short, this is another site like it and both a real scheme.

I feel sorry for those who have lost their BTCs.

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May 17, 2013, 12:04:27 PM
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MiningUnited.com was created on 4/15
That eBay auction ended on 4/18. How long was the auction? 3 day auction? That makes it 4/15.
Also, the 1 BTC reward didn't come on until after 4/18. This cat had no real business promoting that website if he wasn't connected. Time to buy a real coin from him and get his return address.
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May 17, 2013, 12:11:10 PM
Last edit: May 17, 2013, 12:38:55 PM by blindfaith
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https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/Default.aspx

Domains By Proxy ^^
also have a nice little contact us section for reporting people if anyones interested..

edit 2://

Also whilst on the case... - Think Mr. Mining United got excited by this post and bought BTCCHEAP?

mining united,
You interested in any btc domain names?

(apologies if bitdominion isn't related)



edit 3://

first person I can find so far repping BTCCheap:

Came across this site when using BitVisitor - http://www.btccheap.com/index.html

It looks to be a mining service where you send in an amount of bitcoins and you get a percentage of their mining income after 2-3 days. I couldn't find a thread here about it, so I wanted to bring this before others. They supposedly are using the income to finance more than they could on their own, but couldn't really find any more details on how this should work or why such a short time for the turnaround. There is a page here that says what their current hardware is.

Any thoughts on this?

(apologies again if theGECK isn't involved)


edit 4: //

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Attention,

MU has had to urgently discontinue it's services after a series of
attacks on our system. Also, new United States regulations prevent us
from continuing our services. In order to comply with new FiCEN /
Homeland Security regulations, MU has been shut down.

MU is not the only service that has been impacted by the new federal
regulations:

http://www.SatoshiDice.com
http://www.MtGox.com
http://www.Dwolla.com
(Among others)

More information:
http://fr.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1efmzy/satoshidice_announcement/
https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130515.html

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=bitcoin+regulation&oq=bitcoin+regulation

WARNING: The website http://www.BTCcheap.com is NOT related to MU in
anyway. ANY U.S based users using this Vietnamese website is subject
to all regulations in your jurisdiction. It may be AGAINST THE LAW if
you are located in the United States, even if you USE BITCOIN ONLY.

A 100% BitCoin refund is being sent back to all users. U.S based users
may take longer to receive a BitCoin refund. If your wallet was not
compatible with our service you will NOT RECEIVE A REFUND.

This is an automated response. You cannot reply to this message.
-----

As stated in terms & user agreement at the time of active service:


We (Mining United) have the right to shutdown our services at any time
with no refund to any current transactions.

Mining United will not be liable to you (whether under the law of
contact, the law of torts or otherwise) in relation to the contents
of, or use of, or otherwise in connection with this website: 1) For
any indirect, special or consequential loss; or 2) For any business
losses, loss of revenue, income, profits or anticipated savings, loss
of contracts or business relationships, loss of reputation or
goodwill, or loss or corruption of information or data. These
limitations of liability apply even if Mining United has been
expressly advised of the potential loss. Mining United and all related
individuals are not responsible for the loss of BitCoins related to
the use of this Website and services provided.

NO NATIONAL CURRENCY ($USD OR OTHER) WAS EVER EXCHANGED OR IS OWED TO
ANY PARTY.

This is an automatic email I received back from e-mailing miningunitedsales@gmail.com
- IF it wasn't a scam, they've made it pretty confusing as first they say:

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A 100% BitCoin refund is being sent back to all users. U.S based users
may take longer to receive a BitCoin refund. If your wallet was not
compatible with our service you will NOT RECEIVE A REFUND.

But then go on to say no refunds etc. etc.

Confusing for the people sitting back with their fingers crossed for a payment!

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May 17, 2013, 12:45:15 PM
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Now btccheap.com is down as well  Kiss
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May 17, 2013, 12:49:26 PM
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LMAO - Didn't take long for a new mock up to go online:

https://www.cloudhashing.com

Not 100% sure it's the same guy but again it's the same kind of set up!

Also all of the sites have had similar @gmail.com accounts as their contact us address, cloudhashing has opted for a form! Tongue

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May 17, 2013, 02:24:07 PM
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MU have updated their website again:



Lets see what happens in the next few hours/days?

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May 17, 2013, 02:26:25 PM
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Only 85 BTCs?
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May 17, 2013, 02:34:08 PM
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Only 85 BTCs?

Yeah, it's BS. I'm 39% of that and I haven't received anything, nor do I expect to receive anything. Contact the FBI and file a complaint, he can enjoy his bitcoin in prison.
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May 17, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
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this guy could be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life..for a scam with that level of risk he must be insane..i wouldnt be surprised if they are already knocking on his door.. bet he made too many trails and didn't stay in Tor.. just saying money not worth the risks...
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May 17, 2013, 03:04:42 PM
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this guy could be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life..for a scam with that level of risk he must be insane..i wouldnt be surprised if they are already knocking on his door.. bet he made too many trails and didn't stay in Tor.. just saying money not worth the risks...

I think that's why he's changing his story. I filed an FBI complaint and I got many others to do the same. If they're NOT banging on his door I'll be very surprised. If I were him, I would refund the coins and live in fear.
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May 17, 2013, 03:20:33 PM
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Lol @ FBI complaint , did any one even read terms & conditions miningunited.com.

I think most damage done here is by btccheap.com which is real scam website , hacked miningunited.com & screwed it up for lot of folks.



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May 17, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
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I'm giving it a day or so to see if I'm refunded... about 4BTC. Otherwise, I'm all set to file at ic3.gov. And, the eBay guy is on the top of my list for being "the man" or a close part of it. I have all his information.
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May 17, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
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I'm giving it a day or so to see if I'm refunded... about 4BTC. Otherwise, I'm all set to file at ic3.gov. And, the eBay guy is on the top of my list for being "the man" or a close part of it. I have all his information.

I think this is why he's scared. He knows he left a shitload of digital fingerprints. Also about the TOS, a lot of times it doesn't matter. If I put somewhere in my TOS that I don't have to pay, that can all be challenged in court and elsewhere.
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May 17, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
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Lol @ FBI complaint , did any one even read terms & conditions miningunited.com.
Bullshit, you cannot write anything you want in those terms and bam everything is fine.
Otherwise a big website like facebook could update their terms that everyone agrees to buy a toaster for $1000.

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I think most damage done here is by btccheap.com which is real scam website , hacked miningunited.com & screwed it up for lot of folks.
Do you still believe in santa clause?
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May 17, 2013, 04:01:26 PM
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Lol @ FBI complaint , did any one even read terms & conditions miningunited.com.
Bullshit, you cannot write anything you want in those terms and bam everything is fine.
Otherwise a big website like facebook could update their terms that everyone agrees to buy a toaster for $1000.

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I think most damage done here is by btccheap.com which is real scam website , hacked miningunited.com & screwed it up for lot of folks.
Do you still believe in santa clause?

You're 100% right, writing up he takes no liability does not actually release him of liability. I could sign a waiver saying I release you from indemnity if I get hurt doing something, but if I get hurt you're STILL legally responsible. It doesn't matter what the waiver says.

This is why he's backtracking and buying time. 
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May 17, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
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I agree with the lol @ FBI. does anyone really think the FBI would even touch this case? A possible scam of less then 10,000 USD, from a illegitimate currancy, with no central authority oversight? I get being pissed, but with no tangible goods being stolen, the fact that its not a government recognised currancy, and supposedly world wide victims, they wouldn't touch it. The current complaints will get filed in the circular file cabinet.
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May 17, 2013, 04:15:40 PM
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I agree with the lol @ FBI. does anyone really think the FBI would even touch this case? A possible scam of less then 10,000 USD, from a illegitimate currancy, with no central authority oversight? I get being pissed, but with no tangible goods being stolen, the fact that its not a government recognised currancy, and supposedly world wide victims, they wouldn't touch it. The current complaints will get filed in the circular file cabinet.

Actually I think the opposite, feds have been going after Bitcoin recently and this would be perfect for them for framing Bitcoin in a negative light.
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May 17, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
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I agree with the lol @ FBI. does anyone really think the FBI would even touch this case? A possible scam of less then 10,000 USD, from a illegitimate currancy, with no central authority oversight? I get being pissed, but with no tangible goods being stolen, the fact that its not a government recognised currancy, and supposedly world wide victims, they wouldn't touch it. The current complaints will get filed in the circular file cabinet.

Actually I think the opposite, feds have been going after Bitcoin recently and this would be perfect for them for framing Bitcoin in a negative light.

Feds attention is what bitcoin needs right about now , this thread truly belongs in this section of the forum Smiley
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May 17, 2013, 04:59:47 PM
Last edit: May 17, 2013, 07:12:32 PM by tysat
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The site is saying that their in the process of returning 85 BitCoin to users. That seems like a far cry of the total that they really owe according to the last payout update!
http://pastebin.com/gcNmg6hf

I stopped counting after 150 BTC, and that doesn't count the claims that some were paid. I haven't received anything. I would be happy to report if that changes!  Smiley

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