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March 10, 2017, 03:55:01 AM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one.
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March 10, 2017, 04:01:50 AM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this... I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos. i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games. well we need to give new sites a chance too. you can't just stick to the old ones just there are old. for example the site you are advertising in your signature is a new dice site which started very interesting. i am not saying to switch completely or blindly trust them, my favorite dice is bitsler but i always try new ones too, maybe i find some good features, some good giveaways,... i like to have many options and choose freely.
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emberbekas
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March 10, 2017, 04:23:24 AM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this... I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos. i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games. well we need to give new sites a chance too. you can't just stick to the old ones just there are old. for example the site you are advertising in your signature is a new dice site which started very interesting. i am not saying to switch completely or blindly trust them, my favorite dice is bitsler but i always try new ones too, maybe i find some good features, some good giveaways,... i like to have many options and choose freely. True...if we followed the development of a new site especially from the beginning, then we can give our own judgment and not solely based on the opinion of other people. I already play at bitsler for more than a year now. And even though bitsler is relatively new casino, but they can be trusted.
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March 10, 2017, 07:48:20 AM |
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"Provably Fair" is safe to play on sites that provide. If the site gives the value "Serverseed hashed" before the dice throw, there is no problem. We can say "Provably Fair" for this site. The calculation process is described here. https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
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March 13, 2017, 06:37:28 AM |
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Whether provably fair or not is not your only problem, as you can see here: Online gambling scamsA provably fair win will not help you much if it will be not paid!
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Mike Mayor
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March 18, 2017, 09:30:08 PM |
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There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable? So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
Many dice sites have probably fair and you can read on threads here or on other forums how the casinoes perform. You can also look at the casinoes wins and loses and the amounts won and lost to see if you can see something strange. Then there is the faucet which many casino sites offer which allow you to test the waters so to speak before diving right in. Maybe check out yolodice if you looking for a legit and fun dice site.
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March 18, 2017, 09:33:10 PM |
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I'd say that 99%of dice sites here that are completely unlicensed are better than all the licences casinos out there by a large margin. Except for bitdice.
Most of the dice sites are legit and their operators are the most trusted people in the bitcoin community in some cases because they are able to handle hundreds of thousands of dollars or even bitcoin without any intention to scam.
Try bitdice, Bitsler and Primedice. These are the three dice sites I use and find trustworthy.
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March 18, 2017, 10:39:04 PM |
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There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable? So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
I think almost all Trusted dice sites are Provably Fair. All of thing are programmed fair. So you can just trust to your luck when you start gambling. Some gambling sites explain the method of how dice works, To proof that is fair like directbet. So don't fear from trusted sites and enjoy gambling.
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March 18, 2017, 10:59:49 PM |
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There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable? So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
I think almost all Trusted dice sites are Provably Fair. All of thing are programmed fair. So you can just trust to your luck when you start gambling. Some gambling sites explain the method of how dice works, To proof that is fair like directbet. So don't fear from trusted sites and enjoy gambling. This kind of game will not last longer if they are really fair, remember that there are increasing numbers of gambling sites now that are operating because they believe there is a demand in the industry. People love to have different kind of entertainment and gamblers wants to try their luck in a game that would give them instant result even with a small amount of bet, that is possible all in dice games.
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March 18, 2017, 11:34:39 PM |
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There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable? So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
I think almost all Trusted dice sites are Provably Fair. All of thing are programmed fair. So you can just trust to your luck when you start gambling. Some gambling sites explain the method of how dice works, To proof that is fair like directbet. So don't fear from trusted sites and enjoy gambling. i believe that the bets is based on our luck and no matter how good the program, if we have our luck works good in dice games, then we can have our winning time even if we are only make small bets. but if somehow you found that you don't have a good luck, then you might considering to stop your games and moving into other site.
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March 19, 2017, 02:12:50 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date.
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March 19, 2017, 02:32:57 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one. They have picked a good way to make quick and easy amount of bitcoin using this method. Alot can be made in a quick roll of the dice and they just use those losses to throw back into their casinos bank roll waiting for the next one waiting in line to do the same. It is brilliant concept if you stop to think of it. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 19, 2017, 02:41:15 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this... I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos. i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games. I'm bit worried to play on new site since they doesnt got any reputation to hold our money or running a gambling site and im very vigilant on these since there are many scam site who pretend to be good while in reality they are just a scam and running a site without a proper fairness beneath on them. Thats why i mostly go also to those big sites who already tested by majority so that i would not cry later on and file some scam accusation on those scamtards people.
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March 19, 2017, 02:52:14 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this... I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos. i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games. I'm bit worried to play on new site since they doesnt got any reputation to hold our money or running a gambling site and im very vigilant on these since there are many scam site who pretend to be good while in reality they are just a scam and running a site without a proper fairness beneath on them. Thats why i mostly go also to those big sites who already tested by majority so that i would not cry later on and file some scam accusation on those scamtards people. Most of the case we should really always seek for the most reputable ones compared to those newly launched gambling sites because the risk of being scammed is there that's why its really ideal to make some investigations like checking community feedbacks regarding on sites fairness,supports and other important thing should be considered on a good gambling site.
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March 19, 2017, 02:56:18 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date. well most of the well known dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players.
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March 19, 2017, 06:17:17 PM |
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I'd say that 99%of dice sites here that are completely unlicensed are better than all the licences casinos out there by a large margin. Except for bitdice.
Most of the dice sites are legit and their operators are the most trusted people in the bitcoin community in some cases because they are able to handle hundreds of thousands of dollars or even bitcoin without any intention to scam.
Try bitdice, Bitsler and Primedice. These are the three dice sites I use and find trustworthy.
Yep, dice sites and gambling with Bitcoin in general is fairly secure, as is investing in their bankrolls etc. Unfortunately though how trustworthy they are can't be verified except by other members of the community, so they could collapse at any time.
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March 19, 2017, 06:24:27 PM |
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Usually online dice site are secure and safer as long as everything goes well. You never know what actually is happening with any casino or casino behind the scene related to financial matters. It is all your luck after all to let your money on gambling sites and then to be able to withdraw successfully. Big and time tested dice sites are still delivering at least.
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March 19, 2017, 08:09:29 PM |
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Whether provably fair or not is not your only problem, as you can see here: Online gambling scamsA provably fair win will not help you much if it will be not paid! I can very well understand your point here,but if a rouge site does not want to pay its customers no one can force them to pay since i am sure most of the gambling sites are not running with a legal regulation and so it cannot be held responsible and with customers and the site hosted and the person behind the site may be from different jurisdiction and that is certainly what online gambling is and hence it is really difficult to claim the money.
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March 19, 2017, 08:30:33 PM |
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Usually online dice site are secure and safer as long as everything goes well. You never know what actually is happening with any casino or casino behind the scene related to financial matters. It is all your luck after all to let your money on gambling sites and then to be able to withdraw successfully. Big and time tested dice sites are still delivering at least.
I use only sites which have accounts here on forum with positive reputation. I think this way: The casino doesn't want to lose all their reputation builded along the last years. They won't scam their users and lost everything they conquered since now after so much time. It's a kind of guarantee for us investors and gamblers, surely not 100%, because nothing here is 100% sure, but maybe 99%... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 19, 2017, 08:42:03 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one. Some small sites will still cheat people for the idea of quick money. You can run a casino business with Bitcoin very well, but that's just it, you have to run it very well and most people are not capable of doing it which is why they are likely to scam instead.
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