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March 02, 2017, 03:48:14 PM
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I have read this article and my eyes opened:
http://www.buywithbitcoin.info/if-bitcoin-will-not-progress-dash-will-overtake-bitcoin

Now i know that Dash solved all the problems that bitcoin have.
I haven't send huge amount of bitcoins, but now i know that for big players it costs allot to send bitcoin, fees are growing, confirmation time growing...

What are your problems using bitcoin and how we can solve them as fast as we can?
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March 02, 2017, 04:05:20 PM
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My thoughts:
1) Why the self-moderated thread?
2) This sounds like pure propaganda from a DASH pumper.
3) DASH is a premined shitcoin. I know, as I was there, mining it while it was called Darkcoin (DRK).

That said, let's evaluate:
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Instant transactions
Unsafe.

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Private sending (mixing coins in the wallet)
Anonymity provided by Dash is negligible in comparison to Monero.

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And we have couple Bitcoin core developers who running from Bitcoin Core to Dash.
Complete lie.

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My thoughts:
1) Why the self-moderated thread?
2) This sounds like pure propaganda from a DASH pumper.
3) DASH is a premined shitcoin. I know, as I was there, mining it while it was called Darkcoin (DRK).

That said, let's evaluate:
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Instant transactions
Unsafe.

Quote
Private sending (mixing coins in the wallet)
Anonymity provided by Dash is negligible in comparison to Monero.

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And we have couple Bitcoin core developers who running from Bitcoin Core to Dash.
Complete lie.


Well i don't know, but to me Dash sounds promising.
Why instant transactions unsafe?
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March 02, 2017, 04:21:06 PM
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Why did you avoid my question about the thread?

Well i don't know, but to me Dash sounds promising.
Why instant transactions unsafe?
You can implement something similar in Bitcoin as well, that doesn't mean that those transactions are backed by security. Technically Bitcoin has near-instant transactions, but those are usually referred to zero-confirmation transactions and not considered safe.

DASH was mostly ignored until someone started pumping it heavily a few days ago.

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March 02, 2017, 04:21:33 PM
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I have read this article and my eyes opened:
http://www.buywithbitcoin.info/if-bitcoin-will-not-progress-dash-will-overtake-bitcoin

Now i know that Dash solved all the problems that bitcoin have.
I haven't send huge amount of bitcoins, but now i know that for big players it costs allot to send bitcoin, fees are growing, confirmation time growing...

What are your problems using bitcoin and how we can solve them as fast as we can?

From what I have seen, the problem that Dash is claiming to solve is attached to the fact that the price of bitcoin is increasing and the population is equally increasing which we are not sure same thing will not happen to Dash if it can get the awareness bitcoin has garnered today. Aside that the problem which Dash can solve to me then I can prefer it over bitcoin, is when its possible to reverse scam transactions if I can prove I have been scammed aside that, then no problem is actually solved...
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March 02, 2017, 04:25:06 PM
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I have read this article and my eyes opened:
http://www.buywithbitcoin.info/if-bitcoin-will-not-progress-dash-will-overtake-bitcoin

Now i know that Dash solved all the problems that bitcoin have.
I haven't send huge amount of bitcoins, but now i know that for big players it costs allot to send bitcoin, fees are growing, confirmation time growing...

What are your problems using bitcoin and how we can solve them as fast as we can?
I think you made some misunderstanding in your mind because the transaction fee doesn't depend upon the amount of Bitcoin that is transact actually it all depends upon the factor that the Bitcoin you are sending is got by you from how many inputs .
Thus fee depends upon the numbers input + output for the particular amount of the Bitcoin .
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So here you just now need to become more experienced to use in every manner , in this way you can find a better thing in bitcoin than in any other coin or altcoins .
Here I will only say at overall that " bitcoin is king " but need small improvements .
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March 02, 2017, 04:37:46 PM
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Delayed confirmations are just one of the major problems confronting Bitcoin lately but that doesn't make dash an alternative to Bitcoin. I Know plans are far in advance to increase the block size so that should be over pretty soon. Apart from that I don't have any major problem with Bitcoin.
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From what I have seen, the problem that Dash is claiming to solve is attached to the fact that the price of bitcoin is increasing and the population is equally increasing which we are not sure same thing will not happen to Dash if it can get the awareness bitcoin has garnered today.
Correlation is not equal to causation. I doubt that Dash gained any significant number of users. The current price rise is a bubble, by some group of pumpers.

Aside that the problem which Dash can solve to me then I can prefer it over bitcoin, is when its possible to reverse scam transactions if I can prove I have been scammed aside that, then no problem is actually solved...
Reversing any kind of transactions -> centralized coin -> no censorship resistance -> useless.

Thus fee depends upon the numbers input + output for the particular amount of the Bitcoin .
The transaction size to be exact, yes.

Delayed confirmations are just one of the major problems confronting Bitcoin lately but that doesn't make dash an alternative to Bitcoin.
That's not a problem specific to Bitcoin. If all this TX volume moved onto other coins, they'd face equal if not bigger issues.

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March 02, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
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People are running to Dash, because it is supposed to be more anonymous, but the real problem is not anonymity.... it is the network affect. How

many merchants and services accept Dash as a currency at the moment compared to Bitcoin? How many nodes are running compared to Bitcoin.

These are the types of questions that highlights the real value of Bitcoin over other Alt coins. Yes, Dash might be more anonymous, but it is not

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I don't think that Dash dumped, dash constantly becomes better, more user friendly not like bitcoin. Bitcoin only promising.
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People are running to Dash, because it is supposed to be more anonymous, but the real problem is not anonymity.... it is the network affect.
Dash doesn't even win at anonymity either. See XMR vs. Dash.

How many merchants and services accept Dash as a currency at the moment compared to Bitcoin? How many nodes are running compared to Bitcoin.
Practically nobody.

I don't think that Dash dumped, dash constantly becomes better, more user friendly not like bitcoin. Bitcoin only promising.
DASH does nothing. It is a premined coin. Go read about the history of Dash first before promoting it. Roll Eyes

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March 02, 2017, 06:07:53 PM
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Hackers will be focusing on Dash, it's just a matter of time when shit break loose.
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People are running to Dash, because it is supposed to be more anonymous, but the real problem is not anonymity.... it is the network affect.
Dash doesn't even win at anonymity either. See XMR vs. Dash.

How many merchants and services accept Dash as a currency at the moment compared to Bitcoin? How many nodes are running compared to Bitcoin.
Practically nobody.

I don't think that Dash dumped, dash constantly becomes better, more user friendly not like bitcoin. Bitcoin only promising.
DASH does nothing. It is a premined coin. Go read about the history of Dash first before promoting it. Roll Eyes

I don't care, i don't know what is premined, it solves Bitcoin problems and i will use Dash for transactions because it's instant and have almost no fees.
Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GwsmnHE3Rk

Bitcoin is for holding, merchants don't want to wait 10-20 minutes for confirmation, Dash solves this problem also.
Dash solved most problems that Bitcoin have, only advantage that Bitcoin have is that it's more popular right now, but it's not user friendly.
Bitcoin can promise, Dash is doing it.
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I haven't send huge amount of bitcoins, but now i know that for big players it costs allot to send bitcoin, fees are growing, confirmation time growing...
Big players or traders dont worry about paying few satoshis more in fees and actually moving thousands of $ worth bitcoin is too cheaper than other payment methods. The only one who get affected are newbies and the one who like to send and receive micropayments.

 
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March 02, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
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I haven't send huge amount of bitcoins, but now i know that for big players it costs allot to send bitcoin, fees are growing, confirmation time growing...
Big players or traders dont worry about paying few satoshis more in fees and actually moving thousands of $ worth bitcoin is too cheaper than other payment methods. The only one who get affected are newbies and the one who like to send and receive micropayments.

I have send 900$+ in Bitcoin and i paid 10$ in fees, 10$+ is not satoshies.
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March 02, 2017, 06:24:13 PM
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coolio. we have this week's 'bitcoin killer'.

i'm finding it kinda hard to keep track of them, there've been so many.

protip - one pump does not guarantee total ascendance.
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March 02, 2017, 06:25:04 PM
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I don't care, i don't know what is premined, it solves Bitcoin problems and i will use Dash for transactions because it's instant and have almost no fess.
Dash solves nothing. It feels like I'm talking to a wall.

Bitcoin is for holding, merchants don't want to wait 10-20 minutes for confirmation, Dash solves this problem also.
Wrong. Merchants can accept zero confirmation transactions if they choose to.

Dash solved most problems that Bitcoin have, only advantage that Bitcoin have is that it's more popular right now, but it's not user friendly.
Wrong.

Bitcoin can promise, Dash is doing it.
Wrong.

If this is a DASH promotional post, then move it to the altcoin section.

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March 02, 2017, 06:31:17 PM
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My thoughts:
1) Why the self-moderated thread?
2) This sounds like pure propaganda from a DASH pumper.
3) DASH is a premined shitcoin. I know, as I was there, mining it while it was called Darkcoin (DRK).

That said, let's evaluate:
Quote
Instant transactions
Unsafe.

Quote
Private sending (mixing coins in the wallet)
Anonymity provided by Dash is negligible in comparison to Monero.

Quote
And we have couple Bitcoin core developers who running from Bitcoin Core to Dash.
Complete lie.


Well i don't know, but to me Dash sounds promising.
Why instant transactions unsafe?

You seem new into this. You should always consider that everything has tradeoffs.

Now, you think instant transactions come without a price?

Bitcoin is slower, and more expensive, because it's more robust. You think Dash developers are smarter than the Core developers which consists of cryptography legends? Get real.

You can't have instant transactions that are as safe as the transactions happening in the bitcoin network (backed by the biggest amount of hashing power on earth). This is a simple matter of PHYSICS.

We will have instant, cheap transactions and rationally safe enough with LN, but stop dreaming about what is physically impossible.

If such a coin existed, everyone would move there and we all would be rich overnight.
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March 02, 2017, 06:35:03 PM
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I don't care, i don't know what is premined, it solves Bitcoin problems and i will use Dash for transactions because it's instant and have almost no fess.
Dash solves nothing. It feels like I'm talking to a wall.

Bitcoin is for holding, merchants don't want to wait 10-20 minutes for confirmation, Dash solves this problem also.
Wrong. Merchants can accept zero confirmation transactions if they choose to.

Dash solved most problems that Bitcoin have, only advantage that Bitcoin have is that it's more popular right now, but it's not user friendly.
Wrong.

Bitcoin can promise, Dash is doing it.
Wrong.

If this is a DASH promotional post, then move it to the altcoin section.


Well of course if your arguments does not make any sense it''s better to talk with walls.
Bitcoin is not anonymous, transparent, everyone can analyze blockchain and track the transactions.
Bitcoin confirmation time is too long.
Bitcoin fees is growing.
Bitcoin is not user friendly.

Dash solved all this problems
We know that Dash creates user friendly evolution app in 2017 while we don't know when Segwit will be implemented, Bitcoin keeps promising.

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Well of course if your arguments does not make any sense it''s better to talk with walls.
YOU have NO ARGUMENTS. You are just saying "Dash this, Dash that". Those are just baseless statements backed up by nothing. Show me proof of any superiority done by technical assessment and not by DASH bagholders.

Bitcoin is not anonymous, transparent, everyone can analyze blockchain and track the transactions.
It is pseudo-anonymous, which is currently more than enough. Your blockchain analysis is useless if I don't tell you what address is mine.

Bitcoin confirmation time is too long.
No. It is a consensus rule agreed by the network.

Bitcoin fees is growing.
That's how the system is supposed to be working. Free market economics. Roll Eyes

Bitcoin is not user friendly.
It is far more user friendly than any other altcoin.

Dash solved all this problems
We know that Dash creates user friendly evolution app in 2017 while we don't know when Segwit will be implemented, Bitcoin keeps promising.
Okay, let me call it:
DASH is a SHITCOIN.

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