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Biostar TB350 BTC, AM4 motherboard has been fairly easy to setup here so far, a pair of rigs running now with 6 GPUs each and we have 3 more being built atm.
I think we can use this mobo with 6x GPUs and ryzen 1700x to mine by both GPU and CPU, is it more profitable than 6 GPUs and a much cheaper CPU to mine by GPUs only?
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July 05, 2017, 05:20:46 AM |
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Update from me, I have been successful with 6x RX570's in this board but I cannot get any version of nvidia drivers to allow 5 (or 6) to boot into Win10Pro.
I believe given this it is 100% a driver issue and possibly just a matter of hitting the right one to get 6 nvidia cards into Windows.
you think it might work with 2 amd and 4 nvidia cards?
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July 05, 2017, 10:02:11 AM |
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Well I can confirm that 5 gpus (1060's) on powered risers work in the ab350 pro4 and Windows 10. No bios settings helped but a few of nvidia driver re-installs and trial and error got it going. To outline the process I used and re-did a few times to make sure...
(note: best to start with no drivers installed so clean that up first) (note2: Windows 10 worked Windows 7 didn't although I didn't try this method as long on Win7)
1. cards in risers for slots 1 and 2 2. boot and install drivers 3. restart. 4. shutdown 5. cards in risers for slots 4 and 5 6. boot and make sure all 4 appear under display adapters with 2 showing warning for needing a restart 7. reboot to make windows will boot with 4 cards recognized.
Thank you soo much. Im currently running with 4 1070's going nicely. Just need to pickup a new USB 3 cable today and will try that elusive 5th tonight Current setup is : Asrock B350 Pro4 R4 1400 A M.2 SSD in M2_2 4 x GTX 1070's Corsair AX1000i Windows 10 Pro x64 Nvidia Driver version 382.53
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July 05, 2017, 11:24:42 PM |
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Biostar TB350 BTC, AM4 motherboard has been fairly easy to setup here so far, a pair of rigs running now with 6 GPUs each and we have 3 more being built atm.
I think we can use this mobo with 6x GPUs and ryzen 1700x to mine by both GPU and CPU, is it more profitable than 6 GPUs and a much cheaper CPU to mine by GPUs only? Any of the Ryzen CPUs can mine enough to pay for their cost within the first 6-12 months. I'd go for the cheapest model that had the number of cores you want though, so for a 8 core Ryzen I'd get the 1700 at ~$300. We're running R5 1600s on 5 of our mining rigs and they can all do ~450 hashrate on Monero, which is good for $1/day right now. There are other more profitable CPU minable coins too, some twice as profitable even.
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car1999
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July 06, 2017, 02:50:27 AM |
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Biostar TB350 BTC, AM4 motherboard has been fairly easy to setup here so far, a pair of rigs running now with 6 GPUs each and we have 3 more being built atm.
I think we can use this mobo with 6x GPUs and ryzen 1700x to mine by both GPU and CPU, is it more profitable than 6 GPUs and a much cheaper CPU to mine by GPUs only? Any of the Ryzen CPUs can mine enough to pay for their cost within the first 6-12 months. I'd go for the cheapest model that had the number of cores you want though, so for a 8 core Ryzen I'd get the 1700 at ~$300. We're running R5 1600s on 5 of our mining rigs and they can all do ~450 hashrate on Monero, which is good for $1/day right now. There are other more profitable CPU minable coins too, some twice as profitable even. fine, i'd like to build a ryzen1700+8GPUs rig.
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July 06, 2017, 04:07:24 AM |
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The 5x V006 PCIe riser boards didn't even power up the GPU's (tried direct 4pin molex and sata to 4pin adapters and even new USB cables) so i suspect that entire batch was faulty but the V007S ones all worked without issue.
I actually have a B350-BTC where I'm fairly certain I'm having the same riser issues as you. Curious where you got your batch of V006 risers from, and where you ordered the working replacements. I have a new set on the way of 006C's as well to try, but wouldn't mind stocking some known working spares to have on the way just in case. It was an eBay seller in Australia that listed them as local stock but they came from China and i had to email them a video of the fault to resolution@banggood.com or supentres@enjoyebgo.com... I got my working 007S's from this AliExpress seller - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VER-007S-PCI-E-PCI-E-Express-1X-to-16X-graphics-card-Riser-Card-SATA-Molex/32779942085.html
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July 06, 2017, 04:13:51 AM |
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ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 is capping out at 3 GPUs for me under Windows 10... Tried adding 1 card at a time with full power off and CMOS clear between each card but at 4 cards, 1 of them will fail to detect correctly and only 3 or even only 2 will be able to mine. Occasional BSOD with 4 cards, 5 cards is nearly a guaranteed BSOD or a laggy and unusable windows until a BSOD within a minute after booting.
No PCIe options in BIOS, page file increase made no difference and extra ram made no difference.
Was testing with a sata connected SSD and tried multiple clean installs of win 10 with nvidia drivers 368.81, 375.70 and the latest 382.53 with the exact same results.
The 5x V006 PCIe riser boards didn't even power up the GPU's (tried direct 4pin molex and sata to 4pin adapters and even new USB cables) so i suspect that entire batch was faulty but the V007S ones all worked without issue.
Gave up and resorted to SimpleMining (SMOS), first boot with all 5 cards connected and been stable and mining at 130MH/s for 12 hours now with 5x GTX 1070's... Sadly they are only at the stock 26MH/s and not the 29.5MH/s i was able able to push them to in windows as the overclock function in SMOS does not work with the nvidia build.
tldr version, dont get the ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 for windows mining...
Just a quick update on this in case anyone else if having the same issues - Swapped the motherboard over to the Biostar TB350-BTC, selected the "Mining mode" option from BIOS and all good on first boot. I didn't even reinstall Windows or drivers. just unplugged all components from the Asrock, plugged into Biostar and mining away - stable for 5 days now. Got my Biostar board from this AliExpress seller - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-TB350BTC-original-TB350-BTC-Socket-AM4-Motherboard-for-Bitcoin-AMD-Ryzen-CPU-B350/32813417900.html
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July 07, 2017, 09:02:45 AM |
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For the guys that had 6 RX cards working with the Asrock AB350 pro4, was there any BIOS settings you guys messed with? I cant get 6 to work in windows 10 but 5 works.
I did not see any settings in the BIOS (P2.6) that could effect anything with pcie.
Thanks
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July 07, 2017, 11:06:55 PM |
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For the guys that had 6 RX cards working with the Asrock AB350 pro4, was there any BIOS settings you guys messed with? I cant get 6 to work in windows 10 but 5 works.
I did not see any settings in the BIOS (P2.6) that could effect anything with pcie.
Thanks
I actually find it easier with the stock BIOS they seem to remove an entire section of control in the 2.6. this entire AMD PBS section which includes the PCIe control is removed in 2.6.
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July 08, 2017, 03:44:33 AM |
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Biostar TB350 BTC, AM4 motherboard has been fairly easy to setup here so far, a pair of rigs running now with 6 GPUs each and we have 3 more being built atm.
I think we can use this mobo with 6x GPUs and ryzen 1700x to mine by both GPU and CPU, is it more profitable than 6 GPUs and a much cheaper CPU to mine by GPUs only? Any of the Ryzen CPUs can mine enough to pay for their cost within the first 6-12 months. I'd go for the cheapest model that had the number of cores you want though, so for a 8 core Ryzen I'd get the 1700 at ~$300. We're running R5 1600s on 5 of our mining rigs and they can all do ~450 hashrate on Monero, which is good for $1/day right now. There are other more profitable CPU minable coins too, some twice as profitable even. How do you make GPU and CPU mining at the same time? Care to share any tutorial? Thanks!
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July 08, 2017, 04:16:20 AM |
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Why anyone would buy some of these boards is beyond me when rigging a Z270A with M.2 and PCIE multipliers gets you at least 11 GPUs for cheaper is beyond me. Biostar TB350 BTC, AM4 motherboard has been fairly easy to setup here so far, a pair of rigs running now with 6 GPUs each and we have 3 more being built atm.
I think we can use this mobo with 6x GPUs and ryzen 1700x to mine by both GPU and CPU, is it more profitable than 6 GPUs and a much cheaper CPU to mine by GPUs only? Any of the Ryzen CPUs can mine enough to pay for their cost within the first 6-12 months. I'd go for the cheapest model that had the number of cores you want though, so for a 8 core Ryzen I'd get the 1700 at ~$300. We're running R5 1600s on 5 of our mining rigs and they can all do ~450 hashrate on Monero, which is good for $1/day right now. There are other more profitable CPU minable coins too, some twice as profitable even. How do you make GPU and CPU mining at the same time? Care to share any tutorial? Thanks! 1. Run GPU miner 2. Run CPU miner 3. 4. PROFIT!!
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July 09, 2017, 10:23:59 PM |
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Hi guys,
I want to share that I got the 6 RX 470 cards working! Now getting them running on rig 2 is the problem child.
Here is what seems to work: Asrock AB350 PRO4 w/R5 1600 Bios 2.6 (F9 load UEFI Defaults - done, no need for anything else) - I installed Windows 10 PRO with one video card on the native PCI-e Slot, installed drivers, etc. I did not install windows updates. - I then assembled the system (miningrigs server chassis) but all as mentioned the 6th card caused a boot loop so I am suggesting this below if your 6 cards dont work off the bat. - Install the main GPU with riser and boot to windows. Install one card at a time until all cards are working. When I get to desktop I right click on the windows start icon on the lower left of the screen, select device manager then look for the "Display Adapters" tab and make sure all cards are listed there without an exclamation mark. - If one card does not work tips: -If a card fails to recognize remove it and boot the system in the last known working state, even if that is one GPU. Then add cards back one at a time. -Kill power to the power supply when making changes to the hardware -Disconnect your internet connection during this process -DO NOT BE SURPRISED TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE BAD RISER -WRITE THINGS DOWN -I think a lot of the issues is that once a bad riser is introduced it freaks out windows. On rig two I have had 2 bad risers but each time I narrowed it down I needed to go back to one gpu and work my way back up slowly till I got now 5 gpu mining. Swapping risers now for the 6th one and hopefully that one will be at 6 too. -Consider reinstalling drivers BUT uninstall drivers with a program called "Display Driver Uninstaller" or "DDU" which guru3d hosts the download. I prefer uninstalling drivers if the system doesnt come back to a known good working state. I also use the safe mode setting in the program. -BE PATIENT
I think that sums it up for my experience. I think the main issue is that there is a high failure rate on Riser cards and if one part of that component (I even had a bad USB cable on one) it freaks out Windows.
Good Luck -Anthony
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Elder III
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July 09, 2017, 10:34:30 PM |
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Yes, I would agree that riser cards (and their cables) have a much higher failure rate (or are doa to begin with) then any of the other components in a typical mining rig. We try to order an extra 20-25% for our past few orders of them and only buy the good ones from reputable places (if you can find them in stock).
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July 09, 2017, 10:41:07 PM |
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Yes, I would agree that riser cards (and their cables) have a much higher failure rate (or are doa to begin with) then any of the other components in a typical mining rig. We try to order an extra 20-25% for our past few orders of them and only buy the good ones from reputable places (if you can find them in stock).
Could not agree more. I am building these systems for a client and ordered an extra 5 of them.....Yeah RIG two looks like it will end up using 3 of these new backup ones and I still have two more 6 gpu systems left lol. I believe it was the owner or just an employee of miningrigs mentioned they had some models in the past that had as high as a 50% failure rate! Man I just wish we could get some reliable ones. I am an experienced System Builder (SI or whatever the acronym someone is used to) and boy troubleshooting takes time. I dont know how someone doing this without or with little system experience handles this.
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July 09, 2017, 11:14:08 PM |
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Why anyone would buy some of these boards is beyond me when rigging a Z270A with M.2 and PCIE multipliers gets you at least 11 GPUs for cheaper is beyond me. Biostar TB350 BTC, AM4 motherboard has been fairly easy to setup here so far, a pair of rigs running now with 6 GPUs each and we have 3 more being built atm.
I think we can use this mobo with 6x GPUs and ryzen 1700x to mine by both GPU and CPU, is it more profitable than 6 GPUs and a much cheaper CPU to mine by GPUs only? Any of the Ryzen CPUs can mine enough to pay for their cost within the first 6-12 months. I'd go for the cheapest model that had the number of cores you want though, so for a 8 core Ryzen I'd get the 1700 at ~$300. We're running R5 1600s on 5 of our mining rigs and they can all do ~450 hashrate on Monero, which is good for $1/day right now. There are other more profitable CPU minable coins too, some twice as profitable even. How do you make GPU and CPU mining at the same time? Care to share any tutorial? Thanks! 1. Run GPU miner 2. Run CPU miner 3. 4. PROFIT!! Thanks! Could you also share the cpu and gpu miner names? Don't they fight each other for cpu?
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July 13, 2017, 02:33:13 AM |
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Well I can confirm that 5 gpus (1060's) on powered risers work in the ab350 pro4 and Windows 10. No bios settings helped but a few of nvidia driver re-installs and trial and error got it going. To outline the process I used and re-did a few times to make sure... (note: best to start with no drivers installed so clean that up first) (note2: Windows 10 worked Windows 7 didn't although I didn't try this method as long on Win7) 1. cards in risers for slots 1 and 2 2. boot and install drivers 3. restart. 4. shutdown 5. cards in risers for slots 4 and 5 6. boot and make sure all 4 appear under display adapters with 2 showing warning for needing a restart 7. reboot to make windows will boot with 4 cards recognized. The last one was tricky and took a few tries to be honest. 8. card in riser in slot 6. 9. during the boot and after the windows logo appears and the bubbles are circling below , unplug the usb from the adapter that is in slot 6 and let it finish booting to windows. 10. look in the device setting again and you should see a 5th entry in display adapters with a warning like in step 6 or a new entry under "other" for a VGA adapter. 11. plug the usb back into the adapter and in device settings "re-scan for changes" and make sure a 5th entry is still under display adapters. 12. restart and you should be good to go with 5...which is better than 4 Hopefully this all work for someone. It took me 3 iterations of complete driver uninstalls and re-installs to get it to where I could consistently I can overclock all cards with MSI afterburner and my eth miner has been running for +24 hr at this point. I might work on getting the 6th card going but that 3rd slot really doesn't seem to want to work. I am glad it worked for you, i have tried everything with no luck. sometimes it is hard to get more than 3 1070's to work....
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July 18, 2017, 03:46:49 AM |
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I can confirm that Asrock ab350 gaming k4 can handle 6 GPU. Mine is 4 480 and 2 570.
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July 19, 2017, 02:17:09 PM Last edit: July 19, 2017, 02:57:30 PM by liquiman |
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Hello everyone. I have ASRock AB350 Pro4 and 6 GTX 1070 . But only 4 work`s right now. Bios is 2.6 and i also haven`t any settings for pci-e devices like Above 4G etc. Help me please , what i`am doing wrong? Windows 10 Pro Nvidia latest drivers, without GF experience etc. Only driver. Windows is UEFI . My problem is black screen after more than 4 GPU`s inside. Thanks everyone.
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Hello everyone. I have ASRock AB350 Pro4 and 6 GTX 1070 . But only 4 work`s right now. Bios is 2.6 and i also haven`t any settings for pci-e devices like Above 4G etc. Help me please , what i`am doing wrong? Windows 10 Pro Nvidia latest drivers, without GF experience etc. Only driver. Windows is UEFI . My problem is black screen after more than 4 GPU`s inside. Thans everyone. would you mind trying a linux boot disk (maybe a mining distro) to see if all the cards work that way?
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July 19, 2017, 03:03:08 PM |
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Hello everyone. I have ASRock AB350 Pro4 and 6 GTX 1070 . But only 4 work`s right now. Bios is 2.6 and i also haven`t any settings for pci-e devices like Above 4G etc. Help me please , what i`am doing wrong? Windows 10 Pro Nvidia latest drivers, without GF experience etc. Only driver. Windows is UEFI . My problem is black screen after more than 4 GPU`s inside. Thans everyone. would you mind trying a linux boot disk (maybe a mining distro) to see if all the cards work that way? Ok, i will try. Could you advise me mining distro for ETH ? Thx
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