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March 14, 2017, 10:08:44 AM
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Now after America was going to sell oil interests with Saudi Arabia disperse. America can reduce oil prices on the world market. It is quite possible that they will be competitors. This is an economic war.

No matter how much crude oil the American frackers can produce out of the shale formations, the US will remain a net importer of crude oil in the long term. And that means that at last in the crude oil sector, there will be no competition between the US and the KSA.
In the U.S. not only has shale oil and conventional oil. Besides, Trump was going to sell strategic oil reserves. In any case, this should lead to a drop in prices on world markets. Let me also remind you that China's economy is also beginning to decline.

Selling the strategic oil reserves may be a bad idea. They are meant for emergency use in case of warfare or natural catastrophes. And even if he decides to sell them, there will be only a temporary blip in the prices. After 6 or 7 months, the prices will be back to $55 per barrel.

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March 14, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
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Trump just put forward his executive action on the Travel Ban, and as we all know the first one faced legal blockade from the 9th circuit of Appeals. Instead of Trump going forward and making an appeal up to the supreme court (Without a clear majority) he went forward and changed a couple things on the executive action and put a new one in order.

Jeffrey Toobin, one of CNN's senior legal analysts and contributors feels that the 2nd time's a charm for Trumps executive action, and I will have to agree with the Very Fake News organization for one of the first times in my life.

What do y'all think of the fate of the Travel Ban?


Link to article - http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/06/opinions/trump-travel-ban-toobin/index.html

President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.
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March 14, 2017, 12:50:32 PM
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Now after America was going to sell oil interests with Saudi Arabia disperse. America can reduce oil prices on the world market. It is quite possible that they will be competitors. This is an economic war.

No matter how much crude oil the American frackers can produce out of the shale formations, the US will remain a net importer of crude oil in the long term. And that means that at last in the crude oil sector, there will be no competition between the US and the KSA.
In the U.S. not only has shale oil and conventional oil. Besides, Trump was going to sell strategic oil reserves. In any case, this should lead to a drop in prices on world markets. Let me also remind you that China's economy is also beginning to decline.

Selling the strategic oil reserves may be a bad idea. They are meant for emergency use in case of warfare or natural catastrophes. And even if he decides to sell them, there will be only a temporary blip in the prices. After 6 or 7 months, the prices will be back to $55 per barrel.
The high price of oil is not profitable in the first place for the exporting countries. The higher the price, the more profitable to invest in alternative energy. When you find technology way back will be gone.
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March 15, 2017, 03:48:00 AM
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Trump just put forward his executive action on the Travel Ban, and as we all know the first one faced legal blockade from the 9th circuit of Appeals.

....he went forward and changed a couple things on the executive action and put a new one in order....

An efficient way to get the job done don't you think?

He missed Saudi Arabia.  That country's religious ideology is the root cause of all the ISIS like behaviours.

From where I stand, he is not doing his job.  If the objective is to fight terrorism, he should start with Saudi Arabia.

That is where the terrorist ideas and money originates.

Targeting Saudi Arabia will be a strategic mistake. Considering the amount of investments done by the Saudis in the US, antagonizing them will be suicidal, both economically and politically.

Thank you. We were in bed with them since the Obama administration, it's too late to hop out and hurry home at this point. Despite 911, Obama was beyond reluctant to allow legal liability to pass to Saudi Arabia. He PRA tically begged Congress not to allow SA to be legally culpable for one of our most agregious attacks at home beyond Pearl Harbor. With that being said, I see the same ass kissery in the Trump administration, specifically with the reluctance to list SA as one of the 'banned countries' included in the Muslim ban (it's a Muslim ban. Be real). Anywho, I don't really agree with banning any country from visiting the US (visitors = money and stupid to ban an entire country because of a few citizens.) If we are gonna ban a motherfucker because of state level reputation, then start at known antogonist, like NK or RUS.

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March 15, 2017, 04:05:47 AM
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President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.

The reduction in federal debt was an amazing and unbelievable achievement. Check the link below for the proof from the treasury department:

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=02&endDay=21&endYear=2017

But the media refused to cover it, as a result of their hatred towards Trump.

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President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.

The reduction in federal debt was an amazing and unbelievable achievement. Check the link below for the proof from the treasury department:

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=02&endDay=21&endYear=2017

But the media refused to cover it, as a result of their hatred towards Trump.

Oh no, the media certainly covered it. It just wasn't the accomplishment that the right wing media made it out to be. Observe:

http://www.snopes.com/media-silence-national-debt-trump/

I could point out multiple mainstream sources, but nah. And just wait for Trumpcare to strike. Those numbers are going to look mundane after we take the tax brunt of these wonderful reductions the wealthy will experience. And I'm not even talking about actually income tax cuts, just Trumpcare. We won't even discuss corporate and elite actor tax reductions under the Trump administration.

Drain the swamp indeed.

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....If we are gonna ban a motherfucker because of state level reputation, then start at known antogonist, like NK or RUS.


Fortunately, you are not in charge of who to ban.

Although there might be some merit in banning motherfuckers.
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....If we are gonna ban a motherfucker because of state level reputation, then start at known antogonist, like NK or RUS.


Fortunately, you are not in charge of who to ban.

Although there might be some merit in banning motherfuckers.
Smiley

LMAO.

Don't be so quick to dismiss RUS though. I see we formally charged two FSB agents and a foreign Russian national in the Yahoo intrusion. The liberal media doesn't have to try too hard to tie Trump and Russia together,they just seemingly, click Smiley

And  I see Team Trump is starting to stratify over this one (wiretapping claims). Sessions said no, Senate has said no, only Comey is left. It's kinda funny, for something that was meant to be a misdirectiin, this turned out to be a giant glowing beacon pointing more at Russia than the Obama wiretapping thing. And it was a silly plow. A quick read of a modern civics textbook could have set him straight before he made those tweets. Those marvelous, marvelous tweets. Keep em coming, 45.

This would be popcorn worthy, if I didn't live here, dammit Smiley

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President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.

The reduction in federal debt was an amazing and unbelievable achievement. Check the link below for the proof from the treasury department:

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=02&endDay=21&endYear=2017

But the media refused to cover it, as a result of their hatred towards Trump.

Oh no, the media certainly covered it. It just wasn't the accomplishment that the right wing media made it out to be. Observe:

http://www.snopes.com/media-silence-national-debt-trump/

I could point out multiple mainstream sources, but nah. And just wait for Trumpcare to strike. Those numbers are going to look mundane after we take the tax brunt of these wonderful reductions the wealthy will experience. And I'm not even talking about actually income tax cuts, just Trumpcare. We won't even discuss corporate and elite actor tax reductions under the Trump administration.

Drain the swamp indeed.

Nothing out of the expectation. The mainstream media as usual, tried to take the credit away from him by giving silly excuses. Had Obama done the same, then the media channels would have celebrated it for at least 10-15 days non-stop.

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President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.

The reduction in federal debt was an amazing and unbelievable achievement. Check the link below for the proof from the treasury department:

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=02&endDay=21&endYear=2017

But the media refused to cover it, as a result of their hatred towards Trump.

Oh no, the media certainly covered it. It just wasn't the accomplishment that the right wing media made it out to be. Observe:

http://www.snopes.com/media-silence-national-debt-trump/

I could point out multiple mainstream sources, but nah. And just wait for Trumpcare to strike. Those numbers are going to look mundane after we take the tax brunt of these wonderful reductions the wealthy will experience. And I'm not even talking about actually income tax cuts, just Trumpcare. We won't even discuss corporate and elite actor tax reductions under the Trump administration.

Drain the swamp indeed.

Nothing out of the expectation. The mainstream media as usual, tried to take the credit away from him by giving silly excuses. Had Obama done the same, then the media channels would have celebrated it for at least 10-15 days non-stop.

Debt ceiling reached.
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March 16, 2017, 09:25:05 PM
 #31

President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.

The reduction in federal debt was an amazing and unbelievable achievement. Check the link below for the proof from the treasury department:

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=02&endDay=21&endYear=2017

But the media refused to cover it, as a result of their hatred towards Trump.

Oh no, the media certainly covered it. It just wasn't the accomplishment that the right wing media made it out to be. Observe:

http://www.snopes.com/media-silence-national-debt-trump/

I could point out multiple mainstream sources, but nah. And just wait for Trumpcare to strike. Those numbers are going to look mundane after we take the tax brunt of these wonderful reductions the wealthy will experience. And I'm not even talking about actually income tax cuts, just Trumpcare. We won't even discuss corporate and elite actor tax reductions under the Trump administration.

Drain the swamp indeed.

Nothing out of the expectation. The mainstream media as usual, tried to take the credit away from him by giving silly excuses. Had Obama done the same, then the media channels would have celebrated it for at least 10-15 days non-stop.

Debt ceiling reached.
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Trump is really not an angel, and he will not act like Obama, but the main thing is that the new president does not use this quality about which everyone knows and understands that he is exactly this and not another.
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March 19, 2017, 02:42:50 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.
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March 19, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work simple because it's connected with nationality and religion of people, and don't deal with the real problem, how to prevent real terrorist to enter America.
Basically Trump clams that all people from this 6 countries are dangerous for America and possibly terrorists, but he can't prove such claims or share any evidence or facts. Only fact is that they are all Muslims and it seems it's enough for Trump and his government.
It's obvious that court will not allow such orders, based on prejudice and discrimination, not facts.
Trump needs to focus on how to find and stop the true terrorists, and they are mostly coming from America and europe, not Muslim countries.


 

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March 19, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work, because the corrupt judges appointed by the Democrats are hell bent on blocking any legislation which will make the United States safer from Islamic terrorist attacks. Unless these biased judges are thrown out, democracy will be a joke in the US.

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March 19, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work, because the corrupt judges appointed by the Democrats are hell bent on blocking any legislation which will make the United States safer from Islamic terrorist attacks. Unless these biased judges are thrown out, democracy will be a joke in the US.

I think he should replace most of the pro Liberal judges, the one he feel will vote against him, He already sacked some of the judges why should he not just continue.
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March 19, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work, because the corrupt judges appointed by the Democrats are hell bent on blocking any legislation which will make the United States safer from Islamic terrorist attacks. Unless these biased judges are thrown out, democracy will be a joke in the US.
No, you just got used to living in countries where the will of the leader the law for judges. In America it is not. That is why America is a great country. Trump knows how to make America great. He's a stupid populist. All of his idiotic decrees will be blocked if they are contrary to the law.
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March 19, 2017, 08:44:21 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work simple because it's connected with nationality and religion of people, and don't deal with the real problem, how to prevent real terrorist to enter America.
Basically Trump clams that all people from this 6 countries are dangerous for America and possibly terrorists, but he can't prove such claims or share any evidence or facts. Only fact is that they are all Muslims and it seems it's enough for Trump and his government.
It's obvious that court will not allow such orders, based on prejudice and discrimination, not facts.
Trump needs to focus on how to find and stop the true terrorists, and they are mostly coming from America and europe, not Muslim countries.

I think Trump must not focus on these kind of stuffs, he must focus first on their budge and their national debt which are being a problem. I know that he is a business man, and I think he can handle this problem well, but it needs to comes first or it will affect the country.

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March 19, 2017, 08:50:31 PM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work simple because it's connected with nationality and religion of people, and don't deal with the real problem, how to prevent real terrorist to enter America.
Basically Trump clams that all people from this 6 countries are dangerous for America and possibly terrorists, but he can't prove such claims or share any evidence or facts. Only fact is that they are all Muslims and it seems it's enough for Trump and his government.
It's obvious that court will not allow such orders, based on prejudice and discrimination, not facts.
Trump needs to focus on how to find and stop the true terrorists, and they are mostly coming from America and europe, not Muslim countries.

I think Trump must not focus on these kind of stuffs, he must focus first on their budge and their national debt which are being a problem. I know that he is a business man, and I think he can handle this problem well, but it needs to comes first or it will affect the country.
Why do many people have the impression that Trump is a very good businessman? You saw him return? Except for the published media. It seems to me that he is not as successful as he is painted. Yet I do not see any good ideas in his head.
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March 20, 2017, 01:59:09 AM
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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work, because the corrupt judges appointed by the Democrats are hell bent on blocking any legislation which will make the United States safer from Islamic terrorist attacks. Unless these biased judges are thrown out, democracy will be a joke in the US.

I think he should replace most of the pro Liberal judges, the one he feel will vote against him, He already sacked some of the judges why should he not just continue.

Replacing the judges is not that easy. If I am not wrong, in the US the judges are appointed for life. Their post will become vacant only if they die, or if they get impeached. And the latter option is extremely difficult.

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The travel ban will not work at all, The best option is to stop the inflow of these immigrants from coming is at the Embassies, Its a waste of time trying to ban them with executives orders.

The travel ban will not work, because the corrupt judges appointed by the Democrats are hell bent on blocking any legislation which will make the United States safer from Islamic terrorist attacks. Unless these biased judges are thrown out, democracy will be a joke in the US.

I think he should replace most of the pro Liberal judges, the one he feel will vote against him, He already sacked some of the judges why should he not just continue.

Replacing the judges is not that easy. If I am not wrong, in the US the judges are appointed for life. Their post will become vacant only if they die, or if they get impeached. And the latter option is extremely difficult.

Amen. Leave these guys be. If Trump can get elected and nit get impeached in the face of lunacy, surely studied legal professionals should get their 'day in court' (see what I did there?) Besides, do you really want the executive branch to be able to dismiss members of the judicial branch at will? Wouldn't that be a gross violation of separation of powers, kinda like what would have actually happened if Obama had tapped Trump's phone (see what I did there as well?l
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