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March 13, 2017, 05:06:08 PM |
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there are a lot of other btc casino that are not requiring personal information!
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March 13, 2017, 05:23:46 PM |
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there are a lot of other btc casino that are not requiring personal information!
yeah, its easy right? to make this story short, just dont go there, there are many casinos who are offering the same but don't need something like that.
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March 13, 2017, 05:25:01 PM |
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look no further: the bookies delete messages like this in their self moderated topics,what do you expect them to not ask you ID if they could? they do not give a damn about public opinion,there always be people who bet and they have the privilege of choosing who to let play and who to effectively ban
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Quote they ,probably,have an IP database+they red flag accounts by a set mask of activity and the most suspicious activity is when you are winning Grin so be prepared for all sorts of verification,humiliation id checks,bets change etc. you are only a desired customer when you deposit money,but to get them back you would have to run around in circles,send your id details and generally be humiliated,to be fair its not just this particular bookie-its their general practice
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March 13, 2017, 05:28:45 PM |
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nowadays information worths a lot, thats the basic business model of many companies, selling the information of their users,"information is knowledge, knowlege is power"
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March 18, 2017, 03:23:26 AM |
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Its KYC and a lot of sites have it, and honestly, I don't understand it either as these gambling sites employ bitcoin for gambling, and I am almost certain they themselves don't pay their taxes to the correct amount themselves.
it is not about taxes or security or whatever reason they are claiming it is the reasons behind the checks are simple:money or another pretext to not pay you your winning once again,they never protest or ask you to submit ID verification when you DEPOSIT this should have been done this way: you register,then you ask the site to check if everything is alright with you and your account before you deposit money but this is only a dream,in reality they would freeze your balance under any pretext and tell you tales of security checks and that your coins are tainted,or they detected irregularities in your bet pattern or the shoe size any frigging reason to not pay they will use,some people give up and do not send their ID so its just an easy way to save money for them and nowadays bitcoin aka anonymous gambling is almost nothing different from the regular casinos
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March 18, 2017, 06:56:37 AM |
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Its KYC and a lot of sites have it, and honestly, I don't understand it either as these gambling sites employ bitcoin for gambling, and I am almost certain they themselves don't pay their taxes to the correct amount themselves.
yeah It is a strange one to me as well. They have to be using the KYC information elsewhere. No need in the BTC world.
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March 18, 2017, 07:05:57 AM |
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What is your problem specifically?
It is juridical not valid to let you deposit and play without any proof of your identity and then ask for proof of your identity prior to let you withdraw!
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March 18, 2017, 08:54:04 AM |
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If there is money to be made, why ask for things that would prevent customers from coming in, right?
Because many people will not want to hand over their personal information, so they'll never withdraw and leave their coins in the site forever.
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Ryan Dugan
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March 18, 2017, 08:55:15 AM |
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I agree. That's dodgy as hell. They only ever conserned about who you are when you win big. It's just an excuse not to pay that's all. The only other time would be if you cashed out a promotion. I once wages 40x the start amount and had $3 and they wanted verification for that. I left.
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March 18, 2017, 09:16:08 AM |
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I think they were originally a fiat casino, right? Then they just added Bitcoin as another deposit option/currency. This is why I stay away from sites that have anything to do with fiat currencies, they'll almost always ask for verification before withdrawal. But, I have seen one where they ask for verification only if you use the fiat currency. (forgot the name) AND, there's no such thing as INSTANT WITHDRAWALS for them. As long as you try to withdraw anything, your account and bet history would have to go through a thorough once/twice/thrice-over. Anyway, I'd rather stay away from fiat+btc casinos and stick to 'real' btc casinos.
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March 18, 2017, 10:34:15 AM |
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what if i send to them false information, can they verify if they are elgit or not? i think not, i would not play in any casino that request my id, but if i'm forced because it has a good features over other casino, i would choose to send false info, they need to understand that our privacy is important, especially here where we use bitcoin
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March 18, 2017, 07:49:07 PM |
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what if i send to them false information, can they verify if they are elgit or not? i think not, i would not play in any casino that request my id, but if i'm forced because it has a good features over other casino, i would choose to send false info, they need to understand that our privacy is important, especially here where we use bitcoin
they can,they have databases to run your info against but usually ,as I wrote above,it is just a pretext to freeze your withdrawals and put more hurdles for you to get your deposited money back too many people give up and don't send them anything and simply forfeit their winnings
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Mike Mayor
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March 19, 2017, 03:34:09 PM |
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When they ask you forI I.D it is just a tactic to avoid paying. They know many players won't show their I.D so every time that happens they get that money for free. They will tell you it's for your protection and its genuine and your privacy is safe. You dont actually know that. We dont know what people do with our info ? I know people harvest emails and things like that for advertising. They seem to do it mostly with the big winners too, which just makes them look even worse and more questionable.I wonder how often casinoes like that ask for I.D ?
Just goes to show even of the casino games themselves are free doesn't mean the workers or owners are. There is human trust needed.
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March 20, 2017, 03:41:43 AM |
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I think every Fiat casino had that in the beginning. Even powerbet and cloudbet asks for details. I don't feel too provide them as a Bitcoin person, the main advantage is anonymity. And it's hard to get verified with false documents, so regardless of how good the site is I would just leave.
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Lecam
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April 07, 2017, 11:52:52 AM |
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Not the only one, cloudbet requires ID info if they think the customer is abnormal. Powerbet and playamo are both requiring too. Maybe more, but not only one, this is what I can confirm.
I have also seen sportsbet.io asking for personal documents in the name of investigation. Don't know why bitcoin casino have KYC policy at all. If they are registered somewhere than they may have it to comply with rules of the country where they are registered but for other there is no point on asking for personal documents. It's so risky to provide that but we will be surely be forced to give our information if we won a huge amount of money, but i'm totally afraid for the outcome if the site we provided well failed nor be hack since surely we will be compromised if our personal information well be used, thats why for me i will avoid those site who's asking that. And since im not truly a big gamblers so KYC is not a problem for me in this matter since i'm not actually not winning some huge money in gambling so far. Yeah it is right that it is risky to give such information like that specially identification card and your personal records.But as long as the one who want your details is secured and trusted enough like well knowned bitcoin casinos online now i think it is still safe because they keep your details in safe place and secured
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April 09, 2017, 02:10:02 AM |
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There are still more gambling sites that ask for your personal information and verification,and that is just normal for somewhat reason.Yeah its risky but if the site is keeping their customers information hidden from public and in safe database then thats not a cause.This casinos needing personal information and identity verifications is rooted from fiat casinos back in the old days.And its just normal
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April 09, 2017, 03:09:42 AM |
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thanks for the heads up OP.
what's up with these casinos asking for ID verification these days. i see another one of them created recently and even has a signature campaign and claims to be a regulated casino and asks for ID! we are using bitcoin to not give them our ID, now the've gone back to asking for it.
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April 09, 2017, 06:38:08 AM |
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what if i send to them false information, can they verify if they are elgit or not? i think not, i would not play in any casino that request my id, but if i'm forced because it has a good features over other casino, i would choose to send false info, they need to understand that our privacy is important, especially here where we use bitcoin
they can,they have databases to run your info against but usually ,as I wrote above,it is just a pretext to freeze your withdrawals and put more hurdles for you to get your deposited money back too many people give up and don't send them anything and simply forfeit their winnings Absolutely it's like in the paypal if you send a false information and you account get freeze there's no way that you can withdraw your earnings so in that case it is similar with the site. The only way to not to get scam is stay away with that site and find another gambling sites.
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April 09, 2017, 06:48:06 AM |
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what if i send to them false information, can they verify if they are elgit or not? i think not, i would not play in any casino that request my id, but if i'm forced because it has a good features over other casino, i would choose to send false info, they need to understand that our privacy is important, especially here where we use bitcoin
they can,they have databases to run your info against but usually ,as I wrote above,it is just a pretext to freeze your withdrawals and put more hurdles for you to get your deposited money back too many people give up and don't send them anything and simply forfeit their winnings Absolutely it's like in the paypal if you send a false information and you account get freeze there's no way that you can withdraw your earnings so in that case it is similar with the site. The only way to not to get scam is stay away with that site and find another gambling sites. what would be the point anyways! that is a very unnecessary risk that anyone would take if they try to give false information. with bitcoin gambling you just need to go to another casino that doesn't ask for verifications and IDs and simply use their services if you are unhappy with other places rules! and that is not a scam as long as the site clearly states they will ask for such identification in their terms of services. but if they never said anything about it and they ask for it out of nowhere that would be kind of shady behavior.
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April 09, 2017, 06:51:55 AM |
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what if i send to them false information, can they verify if they are elgit or not? i think not, i would not play in any casino that request my id, but if i'm forced because it has a good features over other casino, i would choose to send false info, they need to understand that our privacy is important, especially here where we use bitcoin
they can,they have databases to run your info against but usually ,as I wrote above,it is just a pretext to freeze your withdrawals and put more hurdles for you to get your deposited money back too many people give up and don't send them anything and simply forfeit their winnings Absolutely it's like in the paypal if you send a false information and you account get freeze there's no way that you can withdraw your earnings so in that case it is similar with the site. The only way to not to get scam is stay away with that site and find another gambling sites. they should lessen to the comments here, we are using btc to play as discreet as we wanted to be, but if they are asking for real information they are just pushing players away they have maybe good intentions but btc gamblers are not favor for this things they needed to consider what players wants to continue having more players.
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