Is a war against china the only option?

[squatz1]

Not going to be worth it in the least for the Western Powers, some may say the economy of China is ever growing and is going to amass to be something much bigger than the West could ever imagine. This is not something that I fully believe is true as people in China / government officials are just inflating the numbers of growth in order to make themselves look better.

A war between the US and China would really just be a complete destruction of all of China within weeks (days if we're feeling like Atomic bomb time) and even comparing non Atomic weapons to the US is also such a joke to even look at. China, alongside Russia are countries that have outdated military goods and wouldn't be able to stand up to the technology of the United States.

Not the only option though and really shouldn't even be an option due to the sheer devastation the west / US would cause to China.

[coolcoinz]

Not going to be worth it in the least for the Western Powers, some may say the economy of China is ever growing and is going to amass to be something much bigger than the West could ever imagine. This is not something that I fully believe is true as people in China / government officials are just inflating the numbers of growth in order to make themselves look better.

A war between the US and China would really just be a complete destruction of all of China within weeks (days if we're feeling like Atomic bomb time) and even comparing non Atomic weapons to the US is also such a joke to even look at. China, alongside Russia are countries that have outdated military goods and wouldn't be able to stand up to the technology of the United States.

Not the only option though and really shouldn't even be an option due to the sheer devastation the west / US would cause to China.

You're so wrong. In 2016, China had 68 submarines, compared to 75 owned by the US. Subs can patrol along the shores hunting supply ships and vehicle transports for months without the need to refuel.
A country that decides to attack never sends 100% of their forces to the front, but a defending one can, so we could expect not more than 80% of the US military (probably much less) to go to China, while the Chinese would defend with everything they have.
The States could launch an offensive against a small country like Iraq, that doesn't have a strong navy, but reaching the mainland China while being harassed from the sea would be extremely difficult. Even if they could win, it would be devastating for their military. China has over 2 million soldiers (active duty), which is the most in the world. To defeat such numbers the US would have to consider the possibility of losing at least 1 million of their own people and at least half of their arsenal. No country is going to take such odds.

[Eternu]

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

In something that you said I agree. But i don't think that its China fault that more and more job are done by the Chinese people. That is because they are the cheapest labor there is at the moment, and that is good for people who are paying. If they can get the job done, than why pay more... If someone doesn't want Chinese people working for them, that is ok with me. Free choice.

[numismatist]

There are 81.3% "no" votes so far, the Blitzkrieg against China has run stuck somehow. Maybe most prominent person in charge been gone golfing over the weekend, again?

[Lieldoryn]

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

[Sithara007]

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it is not going to get any better in the future. The workforce is ageing rapidly, and increasing pollution has caused the closure of many of the manufacturing units. And they will be no longer allowed to wage a currency war, with Trump being in power.

[Fireblazer]

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it is not going to get any better in the future. The workforce is ageing rapidly, and increasing pollution has caused the closure of many of the manufacturing units. And they will be no longer allowed to wage a currency war, with Trump being in power.

Are such issues very relevant for people. Do everyone expect or think that there is a possibility of a war between China and the United States? I think that this is complete nonsense. Is there really any disagreement, because you can live and exist in peace with one another.

[Sithara007]

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it is not going to get any better in the future. The workforce is ageing rapidly, and increasing pollution has caused the closure of many of the manufacturing units. And they will be no longer allowed to wage a currency war, with Trump being in power.

Are such issues very relevant for people. Do everyone expect or think that there is a possibility of a war between China and the United States? I think that this is complete nonsense. Is there really any disagreement, because you can live and exist in peace with one another.

You can't really discount the possibility of a war between the United States and China. The Taiwan issue is still simmering in the region. On top of that, there are territorial disputes between China and Japan. China is surrounded on two sides by numerous American military bases.

[Lancusters]

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it is not going to get any better in the future. The workforce is ageing rapidly, and increasing pollution has caused the closure of many of the manufacturing units. And they will be no longer allowed to wage a currency war, with Trump being in power.

Are such issues very relevant for people. Do everyone expect or think that there is a possibility of a war between China and the United States? I think that this is complete nonsense. Is there really any disagreement, because you can live and exist in peace with one another.

You can't really discount the possibility of a war between the United States and China. The Taiwan issue is still simmering in the region. On top of that, there are territorial disputes between China and Japan. China is surrounded on two sides by numerous American military bases.

China has territorial claims to all its neighbors, but it seems to me that they would not start a war for this reason. Let's see how they act in Russia. No military action, and the whole border area of Russia is populated by Chinese.

[pecson134]

War is not the only option and probably not the best action if you deal with China. There is much an option in a peaceful way by having peace talks and resolve conflicts through diplomacy.I assume you know the side effects on having a war. It deals a heavy blow on the citizens it affected with.

[WarThunder]

War is not the only option and probably not the best action if you deal with China. There is much an option in a peaceful way by having peace talks and resolve conflicts through diplomacy.I assume you know the side effects on having a war. It deals a heavy blow on the citizens it affected with.

Do not be afraid of China and their armies. The Chinese are not the same as they were before. Even during the Soviet Union, China pursued a similar policy, but today it is a peaceful country that does not preach bad politics.

[Sithara007]

China has territorial claims to all its neighbors, but it seems to me that they would not start a war for this reason. Let's see how they act in Russia. No military action, and the whole border area of Russia is populated by Chinese.

In 1969, China had a border conflict with the Soviets, and the former was routed by the latter. After that, the Chinese have never tried any adventure on their northern border. And regarding the Chinese immigrants in Siberia, they are tolerated because they are temporary immigrants having no right to citizenship or voting.

[alucard23]

Not only would it be a wrong move, but it is also very unlikely to happen. Such a conflict could bring more harm than good to both sides. Governments now use other methods to solve impasses, such as economic sanctions and the like.

[gabmen]

Not only would it be a wrong move, but it is also very unlikely to happen. Such a conflict could bring more harm than good to both sides. Governments now use other methods to solve impasses, such as economic sanctions and the like.

Yeah i think you're right. Hopefully the current qorld.leaders would understand that war is never really an option. It never really brought out any good if you look back at history and i think everyone should know better that it would be very foolish to consider war especially at this point where nuclear weapons arr available to a lot of countries

[Xester]

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Yes we cant prove you wrong but I believe that you cant also prove that you are right. You have failed to establish facts and concrete evidences likning China to Iran and how will you back up your claims that China is weakining the west. There are no threats being made to China to all parts of the world and if they excel in business then it is not their fault. Let us not blame our failures to China but rather strengthen your country and your system on the field of economics, military and influence.

[Barrymore]

China has territorial claims to all its neighbors, but it seems to me that they would not start a war for this reason. Let's see how they act in Russia. No military action, and the whole border area of Russia is populated by Chinese.

In 1969, China had a border conflict with the Soviets, and the former was routed by the latter. After that, the Chinese have never tried any adventure on their northern border. And regarding the Chinese immigrants in Siberia, they are tolerated because they are temporary immigrants having no right to citizenship or voting.

On the Taman Peninsula it was really not a conflict, and provocation. As for Chinese migrants in Siberia, then look at how they destroy the forest and impoverish the land. There is already a lot more Chinese than Russian. China could well use the tactic of Putin and stand up for the Chinese speaking population. Or to hold a referendum on the accession of China.

[bra4our]

In my opinion, its only China that have the resources to be the global superpower after the USA. War against China isn't the best of ideas, China hasn't shown any aggression towards the USA unlike Iran and other Arab countries. They are rather a great ally if the USA play their cards right.

[Sithara007]

On the Taman Peninsula it was really not a conflict, and provocation. As for Chinese migrants in Siberia, then look at how they destroy the forest and impoverish the land. There is already a lot more Chinese than Russian. China could well use the tactic of Putin and stand up for the Chinese speaking population. Or to hold a referendum on the accession of China.

The immigrants are not just the Chinese. They include North Koreans and Uzbeks. Most of them are single men on 6-month or 12-month work contracts. They go home after their contract expires. I don't think that there is any need to distrust them.

[Masha Sha]

When the opium trade was taken over by the chinese domestic production, was a big lol moment in another failed western attempt... (east being the big ocean, and a bunch of islanders sitting on top of volcano).

[currentbit]

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Do you call these valid reasons?

So you propose killing 1 billion+ people to "restore sanity"

I can only say that if there's one thing that is insane, it is you proposing this madness.