SPORTS BOOK RANKINGS ~ COMPLETELY USER GENERATED

[FrueGreads]

Ok guys, sorry for the delay in making the update on the ranks.

@$imple$imon, @LuckyCL, @JanpriX, @ten4ke Thanks a lot for your votes, and as usual please remember that you can update your votes or add new ones anytime you want, so that your feedback in this thread is always accurate.

@veleten Thanks for adding a new vote. Right now I have (NitrogenSports.eu 4.1; Fairlay.com 3.5; Sportsbet.io 3; Cloudbet 3.3; mbet.io 4.0)

@Trofo Thanks for the feedback about pinnaclesports. Right now it will serve as information for anyone that reads this thread. If in the future you want it to be reflected in our ranks, please let me know. Right now I have (Nitrogen Sports last updated to 4.1, and Wbet7 last updated to 3.9).


All ranks have been updated until this post.

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[4x4et]

America's Cardroom - 4.5 (u should add em if u didnt already) - fast withdrawal, but they could add some more soccer bets for less popular leagues

Cloudbet - 1 (I would give a 0 but they've returned my deposit eventually) - lies, blackmailing (failed), many scam accusations

I havent tried others, and wont, cause i preffer (offline) bookies in my country - no chance of scamming me and plenty of bet offers

[4x4et]

Pinnaclesports.com  5
 The best bookmaker office in my opinion, there are huge highs and always pay. Professional players will understand me

OMG Pinnacle started using bitcoin? That's a great news.

https://www.pinnacle.com/en/payment-options/bitpay

Well RIP these obscure shady bookies lol

[FrueGreads]

Hello 4x4et, thanks for leaving your votes and the reasons behind them. As usually that is highly appreciated.

Feel free to add more reviews or change the current ones if you like. I know you said you are not planning in testing new bookies that accept bitcoin, but maybe you change your mind in the future, or at least decide to rank pinnacle.


Ranks have not been updated yet.
I will try to do ti tomorrow.

[BetKing.io]

Pinnaclesports.com  5
 The best bookmaker office in my opinion, there are huge highs and always pay. Professional players will understand me

OMG Pinnacle started using bitcoin? That's a great news.

https://www.pinnacle.com/en/payment-options/bitpay

Well RIP these obscure shady bookies lol

While it sounds like good news, their withdrawal fees and limits are really bad.
Normal Bitcoin sportsbooks will charge you a couple of cents for withdrawal fee instead of 10 euro and will allow no limit on withdraw size.

[SyGambler]

Pinnaclesports.com  5
 The best bookmaker office in my opinion, there are huge highs and always pay. Professional players will understand me

OMG Pinnacle started using bitcoin? That's a great news.

https://www.pinnacle.com/en/payment-options/bitpay

Well RIP these obscure shady bookies lol

well you can always use bitcoinrush.io which offers exactly the same odds of pinnacle and there is 0 withdrawal fee
also you can create pinnacle account with one of the asian brokers that offers pinnacle like asianconnect88 and by doing this you avoid the high withdrawal fee and you avoid KYC

[FrueGreads]

Hello everyone, I would like to say that ranks will be updated tomorrow.
Just missing one vote though, but still, sorry for the Delay.

Feel free to keep voting though.
Thank you.

[JanpriX]

Hello everyone, I would like to say that ranks will be updated tomorrow.
Just missing one vote though, but still, sorry for the Delay.

Feel free to keep voting though.
Thank you.

No worries mate. Quick question, I voted few weeks ago and just wanted to check if I can vote again or are we limited to one entry only per account? I'm seeing this thread as an important reference for sportsbook rankings thus I want to maximize the vote that I can have to promote the website that I wanted to endorse. Thanks in advance for your reply and good job on updating this thread consistently.

[SyGambler]

Hello everyone, I would like to say that ranks will be updated tomorrow.
Just missing one vote though, but still, sorry for the Delay.

Feel free to keep voting though.
Thank you.

No worries mate. Quick question, I voted few weeks ago and just wanted to check if I can vote again or are we limited to one entry only per account? I'm seeing this thread as an important reference for sportsbook rankings thus I want to maximize the vote that I can have to promote the website that I wanted to endorse. Thanks in advance for your reply and good job on updating this thread consistently.

you can always add more votes or update a previous vote that you made , for example giving more or less stars
IMO the thread only reflects the popular sites and obviously many votes came from people to the site that they are participating in its signature campaign
it doesn't reflect which site is better , cause clearly bitcoinrush is better than nitrogen

[FrueGreads]

No worries mate. Quick question, I voted few weeks ago and just wanted to check if I can vote again or are we limited to one entry only per account? I'm seeing this thread as an important reference for sportsbook rankings thus I want to maximize the vote that I can have to promote the website that I wanted to endorse. Thanks in advance for your reply and good job on updating this thread consistently.

Thanks, as usual I'm trying my best.
In response to your question is exactly like SyGambler said. You can add new votes if you want, and even change the old ones. The point here is to keep your opinion as accurate as possible, so as your experience with bookies change, so can change your votes.

IMO the thread only reflects the popular sites and obviously many votes came from people to the site that they are participating in its signature campaign
it doesn't reflect which site is better , cause clearly bitcoinrush is better than nitrogen

Well, I do agree with you, and I think that even 53 votes for NitrogenSports.eu are not enough votes for anyone to think that without no doubt they are the best bookie here. We just don't have enough votes for any bookie here, but I can't do anything about that. I keep the thread active a much as I can, and the site users need to decide to help others with their opinion, like you did.

I do believe that these ranks give a decent indicator on what bookies to try, specially if people combine them with other ranks out there.
Bitcoinrush for example has a decent score, with 3 votes, so maybe that could work as an incentive for someone to try them out and then vote for themselves.


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[SyGambler]

Well, I do agree with you, and I think that even 53 votes for NitrogenSports.eu are not enough votes for anyone to think that without no doubt they are the best bookie here. We just don't have enough votes for any bookie here, but I can't do anything about that. I keep the thread active a much as I can, and the site users need to decide to help others with their opinion, like you did.

I do believe that these ranks give a decent indicator on what bookies to try, specially if people combine them with other ranks out there.
Bitcoinrush for example has a decent score, with 3 votes, so maybe that could work as an incentive for someone to try them out and then vote for themselves.

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yes I know mate and you are doing great
my point is that users shouldn't just rely on a list and they should research more and more , cause as I said most of people here like nitrogen since it's been around for years now and their margin is kinda lower
I just want people to check other sites like rush and give it a chance , this way maybe nitrogen will lower their margin more to compete with rush

competition between sites should allow players to have better odds in the future since all the sites will compete to get the players

[Bolt Brownie]

I just want people to check other sites like rush and give it a chance , this way maybe nitrogen will lower their margin more to compete with rush

competition between sites should allow players to have better odds in the future since all the sites will compete to get the players

I totally agree with you on this part and I will probably try bitcoinrush as well. A lot of new bookies are emerging these days, so I think competition between sites will definitely force them to give us a better service.

Right now I'm trying Betking.io. I know I'm wearing their sig etc, but that's only because I'm participating in their competition and that makes their prizes better. I'm only voting for them now, because they are one of those "new bookies" emerging out there, and they deserve my support.

Also their owner seems very serious about making their service better and more competitive. It's easy to see that on this latest post they've made, where once again they've showed commitment in improving their odds and adding more markets against the competition.

About the site itself, the odds are not that bad in my opinion. They can definitely compete with nitrogen and sportsbet.io. I agree they are a little behind from bitcoinrush from what I've seen lately, but I'm really loving their competition (I was already participating in it, when it was sponsored by directbet), and like I said before they are showing commitment in getting their odds even better. Also, they have a great variety of markets and betting options for those markets.

For those reasons I recommend them, and they deserve a solid 4.5.
I will have no problem in giving them a 5 in the future if their odds get even better.

EDIT: adding link to the post I've mentioned https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4854169.msg44656607#msg44656607

[slaman29]

I don't seem to recall ever voting here but I would like to cast my vote for BitcoinRush sportsbook. I rate them very highly because of their odds which is the most important for me and the regular promotions that don't require much other than participation.

The only downside for me is that they have a high withdrawal limit of 0.01 BTC. It's not a big deal for me but I think that makes a lot of players stay away. Right now that is only $67 but that's a lot of money in some places like where I am.

Bitcoinrush: 4.6 just because of the min withdraw (but zero fees).

[SyGambler]

The only downside for me is that they have a high withdrawal limit of 0.01 BTC. It's not a big deal for me but I think that makes a lot of players stay away. Right now that is only $67 but that's a lot of money in some places like where I am.

well yeah lower withdrawal limit is always nice , one of my friends actually just deposited 6 mbtc and he didn't know about that
but in general as long as the withdrawals are free it's better for me that offering lower limits with a fee 
would be great if they can still lower it and offer 0 fee

[slaman29]

The only downside for me is that they have a high withdrawal limit of 0.01 BTC. It's not a big deal for me but I think that makes a lot of players stay away. Right now that is only $67 but that's a lot of money in some places like where I am.

well yeah lower withdrawal limit is always nice , one of my friends actually just deposited 6 mbtc and he didn't know about that
but in general as long as the withdrawals are free it's better for me that offering lower limits with a fee 
would be great if they can still lower it and offer 0 fee

Yes, that was the small issue also, I deposited once and realized it was not enough to withdraw. They should make that clear, or at least withdrawal should be same amount as deposit.

Or, take it both ways like you said. Make withdrawal limits with fees. So maybe 0.01 BTC and above free, and maybe 0.001 and above small fee like 5k satoshi. I think just making it 0.001 BTC is ok because that is not such a small amount! Hope they are reading this!

[JollyGood]

so, to win the jackpot you have to roll 55.555 twice in a row? That is about 1/100,000 x 1/100,000 = 1/10,000,000,000 or 1 in 10 billion chance of happening.  And betting 1,000 sats, I guess it is unlikely anyone ever won it, if someone did they would notify I'm sure.

Actually no one can win 50BTC betting only 1000 satoshi. Someone posted link to steemit article but they forget to include this in post:

Bets of 0.00001 Bitcoin or more can win 1% of jackpot
Bets of 0.0001 Bitcoin or more can win 10% of jackpot
Bets of 0.001 Bitcoin or more can win 100% of jackpot

Meaning - 1000 satoshi bet, two rolls(back to back) containing 55.555 = 0.5BTC Jackpot. So, if my math is correct, whoever wants to catch 1% of jackpot has to wager 100000BTC, I didn't check house edge, but lets say it is 1%(guessing) do some math and see how much money average player has to lose to "win" this jackpot  Best part - everything is transparent 
@JollyGood, I didn't check ICO, but what was promised to investors? Share of bankroll, token re-buy at the same/higher price? Something else?

I would advise you all to stay away from Betking

[FrueGreads]

so, to win the jackpot you have to roll 55.555 twice in a row? That is about 1/100,000 x 1/100,000 = 1/10,000,000,000 or 1 in 10 billion chance of happening.  And betting 1,000 sats, I guess it is unlikely anyone ever won it, if someone did they would notify I'm sure.

Actually no one can win 50BTC betting only 1000 satoshi. Someone posted link to steemit article but they forget to include this in post:

Bets of 0.00001 Bitcoin or more can win 1% of jackpot
Bets of 0.0001 Bitcoin or more can win 10% of jackpot
Bets of 0.001 Bitcoin or more can win 100% of jackpot

Meaning - 1000 satoshi bet, two rolls(back to back) containing 55.555 = 0.5BTC Jackpot. So, if my math is correct, whoever wants to catch 1% of jackpot has to wager 100000BTC, I didn't check house edge, but lets say it is 1%(guessing) do some math and see how much money average player has to lose to "win" this jackpot  Best part - everything is transparent 
@JollyGood, I didn't check ICO, but what was promised to investors? Share of bankroll, token re-buy at the same/higher price? Something else?

I would advise you all to stay away from Betking

Hello JollyGood, this is a Sports Book rankings thread, generated by forum users. If you wish to place a vote please do so. Right now I have no votes made by you. You can also explain the reasons behind your votes if you want, although this is not mandatory.

If you don't want to place a vote, then I don't understand the reason for this post.


Ranks are not updated, I will do it tomorrow (need to add votes from Bolt Brownie and slaman29).
In the meanwhile fell free to keep voting.
Thank you.

[JollyGood]

Hello JollyGood, this is a Sports Book rankings thread, generated by forum users. If you wish to place a vote please do so. Right now I have no votes made by you. You can also explain the reasons behind your votes if you want, although this is not mandatory.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I just wanted to highlight Betking and its owner Dean Nolan have a bad reputation more so because of the scam siphoning allegations and Dean Nolan locking the Betking thread to try to stifle those that are trying to highlight what he has done.

About the Betking website, apart from it looking very boring, tired and old (the almost identical website he shut down in December 2016 only to re-open after the ICO in 2017) I cannot say much else about it other than there was a campaign which was advertised as having a 50 BTC Jackpot dice game which basically was not there in the first place.

Since I do not use these online betting websites I cannot make a list but if I did I would have Betking at the bottom of any list with a warning in BOLD RED letters but I browsed STAKE and PRIMEDICE and would probably say they are top two.

[FrueGreads]

@Bolt Brownie thanks for adding a new vote. Right now I have (nitrogen 4 and Betking.io 4.5. I also had directbet with 4, but as we all know they are closed). Feel free to add new votes or change the current ones anytime you like, in order to keep your opinion accurate.

@slaman29 This was your first vote in this thread. Thank your for doing it. Like I said to Bolt Brownie, feel free to add new votes, or change the current one, as your experience with bookies changes.

@JollyGood I guess you have made your point and users can read it if they want (although there are better places in this forum to do that). I ask you to keep on topic in the future, and only make new posts if you wish to vote for bookies that you normally use, since that is the hole purpose of this thread. Thank you.


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[slaman29]

@Bolt Brownie thanks for adding a new vote. Right now I have (nitrogen 4 and Betking.io 4.5. I also had directbet with 4, but as we all know they are closed). Feel free to add new votes or change the current ones anytime you like, in order to keep your opinion accurate.

@slaman29 This was your first vote in this thread. Thank your for doing it. Like I said to Bolt Brownie, feel free to add new votes, or change the current one, as your experience with bookies changes.

@JollyGood I guess you have made your point and users can read it if they want (although there are better places in this forum to do that). I ask you to keep on topic in the future, and only make new posts if you wish to vote for bookies that you normally use, since that is the hole purpose of this thread. Thank you.


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Thank you FrueGreads! It's a shame that we don't really have more of these types of community votings. And I know it's so hard to maintain and keep updated but there are quite a few of us who bet on sports and every little bit of edge helps even though there are just a handful of Bitcoin bookies to choose from. I will update my experience when I remember!

@JollyGood this is a rating thread so cast your vote if you want, otherwise people can make up their own minds on other reviews and experience.