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March 19, 2017, 11:16:51 PM
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According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

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March 19, 2017, 11:33:53 PM
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I think by "uninteresting" they mean "unprofitable"

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March 19, 2017, 11:55:01 PM
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gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.

those fans of gmaxwell love monero and zcash

its obvious once gmaxwell screws with bitcoin to centralise bitcoin and hand it to the DCG corporation, they will move onto monero and zcash and rinse and repeat by calling them the next best dcentralised coin while slowly get those alts to fame and then centralise them too.

gmaxwell is dep in the bankers pockets and doesnt care about bitcoins decentralised ethos remaining. once centralised in 100% control of the blockstream/dcg corporation, he will pretend to do a walk away, pretending it is an act of protest., when in reality his job is complete and he is just moving onto the next phase

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March 20, 2017, 12:09:24 AM
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gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.
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Whereas what you are posting is complete lie, Roger ver himself many times says he quit bitcoin and now he thinks dash is better.
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March 20, 2017, 12:12:21 AM
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You gave a link to some BTU shills' brothel and suppose us to believe you? why all BTU shills are so dumb?
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March 20, 2017, 12:15:37 AM
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gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.
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Whereas what you are posting is complete lie,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11425
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Name:    gmaxwell
Posts:    4820
Activity:    2128
Position:    Staff
Other contact info:    XMR: 43pCtCRUn6nRdvmpqzoHJy4NwFsRrEqywhjwfbiUqTtqBAHxCNzdctbHZjf1AZKtTkAjgKmhYgkqBU9 T4BEfAgBqKwK21M7
XMR=monero

dcg http://dcg.co/portfolio/#b blockstream (gmaxwells company)
dcg http://dcg.co/portfolio/#z zcash

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March 20, 2017, 12:18:41 AM
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And what? I accept dollars does it mean that I say dollars is better than bitcoin, like Ver says Dash is better than Bitcoin? Try again
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March 20, 2017, 12:22:01 AM
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we should have HF and let market decide : )

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March 20, 2017, 12:24:47 AM
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And what? I accept dollars does it mean that I say dollars is better than bitcoin, like Ver says Dash is better than Bitcoin? Try again

i have looked at your post history.
1. you dont care about bitcoins diverse independent decentralised ethos, you are very much into REKTing anything not core. because you want centralisation
2. you are happy if core pull the trigger and split so you can double the coins to avoid losing control.
3. you dont understand non-core implementations do not have intentional banning mechanisms to take control. they will just use consensus of diversity
4. you keep talking excitedly about the price of bitcoin but lack understanding of bitcoin concepts such as consensus and diversity.

meaning you have spent more time rekting diversity in hopes of FIAT enrichment. but no actual time understanding bitcoin

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March 20, 2017, 12:31:45 AM
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we should have HF and let market decide : )

Exactly what we've been anticipating. Hope we have it soon though.
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March 20, 2017, 12:38:45 AM
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im laughing at the hypocrisy

1 minute : fear BU they want to split the network
2 minute : hurry and split the network because BU isnt going to

logic : NON-core implementations DONT want to split the network, they want consensus of level playing field PEER network
logic : core fear losing their TIER network and dont want to be on same level PEER network as other implementations
logic : core have the splitting code, the deadlines, the threats, the scripted rhetoric to play a victim card
logic : core trigger the split

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March 20, 2017, 12:59:30 AM
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You gave a link to some BTU shills' brothel and suppose us to believe you? why all BTU shills are so dumb?

I don't care if you believe me.  I said in the OP i don't know if its true.

Perhaps if Greg Maxwell really cares about Bitcoin and his core supporters, he will set the record
straight about what he would do in the event of a network split.   Since he frequently posts and is a
moderator of this forum, I assume he would see a thread with his name on it.

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logic : NON-core implementations DONT want to split the network, they want consensus of level playing field PEER network

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Last edit: March 20, 2017, 02:09:15 AM by franky1
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logic : NON-core implementations DONT want to split the network, they want consensus of level playing field PEER network



you need to learn the difference between the umbrella term HF. and then the subcategories below it.

contentious is where its not consensual.. and instead either controversial or bilateral split.

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soft and hard is simply:
soft: pool only vote
hard: nodes and pools vote

below these umbrella terms is what could happen.. in both hard and soft it can either continue as one chain. or bilateral split
softfork: consensus - >94% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: small 5% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced and dead
softfork: controversial - >50% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: long big% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced and dead
softfork: bilateral split - intentionally ignoring/banning opposing rules and not including them. result: 2 chains

hardfork: consensus - >94% nodes, then >94% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: 5% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced / dead
hardfork: controversial - >50% nodes, then >50% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: big% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced / dead
hardfork: bilateral split - intentionally ignoring/banning opposing rules and not including them. result: 2 chains

 then you see that with BU wanting hard CONSENSUS and not CONTENTIOUS...where by going consensus BEATS the corporate cartel of treating BU as the altcoin.
https://www.scribd.com/document/342194766/Hardfork-Statement-3-17-11-00am
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We’d like to take the time to update the community on the procedure that we, as an industry, intend to follow in the event of a contentious hardfork activating on the Bitcoin network

because the corporate cartel said they would name it BTU if a CONTENTIOUS fork occurred.

which would happen only by core triggering it. because non-core implementations dont have code to do such a split. and for 2+ years of running on the main net, showed no intent to either. even now. now deadlines, no threats, no ban hammer. just plodding along letting the network decide for themselves.

and thats what core fear the most. that CONSENSUS will vote against core and for the non-core divers mutliple implementations that just want the raising of the main base block.
losing core its agenda to have control at the top of a TIER network .. and they will refuse to just be part of a PEER network


P.S
bitfinex also believe if CORE become the minority they will call core BCC. if BU become the minority they will call BU BCU
so its not a simple.. if there is a split BU is auto treated as the altcoin..

devil is in the details of the announcement... "contentious"
https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/843226656940679170

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March 20, 2017, 02:38:14 AM
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gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.
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Whereas what you are posting is complete lie, Roger ver himself many times says he quit bitcoin and now he thinks dash is better.


The same thoughts here. I believe the whales are hedging their bets on Ethereum, Dash, ZEC and XMR which are the biggest movers. Maybe this issue will finally make me invest in my first altcoin. I have been looking at ETC for some time now.

Could this be a planned effort to divide the community so that some altcoin conquers? Have we been tricked?

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March 20, 2017, 02:49:42 AM
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Roger ver himself many times says he quit bitcoin

Really? Then you of course will not mind providing a link to him stating such.

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March 20, 2017, 03:04:02 AM
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According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!

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March 20, 2017, 03:08:05 AM
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According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!
Gmax? is that you?

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March 20, 2017, 03:34:23 AM
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According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!
Gmax? is that you?

Roger?

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