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March 24, 2017, 09:28:24 PM
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So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Blockstream Bitcoin.

If only core developers were capable/motivated/competent to find a solution to increase block size so that people can continue using bitcoin without paying ridiculous fees and insane confirmation time.
Anyways, if there is a split then BTC will not survive as BU needs 70% miner support and if there is 70% support, even less than 50% of those miners can do a 51% attack on BTC, so BTC will need to change their POW as they are planning now, at that point BTC will no longer be BTC but just another altcoin, and a technically inferior coin to many other altcoins.

So why wait for everything to fall apart when the only option is to choose an altcoin and start using it.
 
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March 24, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
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Well said. It is possible that the two new coins will never be what BTC was.

I thought a peaceful split is a good thing, but this does not look peaceful anymore. BTC is inferior compared to most altcoins but it was THE ONE AND ONLY.

Technically there is no good reason to invest into BU or the "new PoW-BTC"... Cry

But hey, $200 ETH and $500 DSH could be the answer  Undecided

If you ask me, the winner of the war will be the coin that is called "BTC" or "Bitcoin" by the exchanges and the press in the future. That is what sheeple know. Sad

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March 24, 2017, 09:45:58 PM
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HODL (both chains)

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March 25, 2017, 03:42:22 AM
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So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Donald Trump Bitcoin.

If only core developers were capable/motivated/competent to find a solution to increase block size so that people can continue using bitcoin without paying ridiculous fees and insane confirmation time.
Anyways, if there is a split then BTC will not survive as BU needs 70% miner support and if there is 70% support, even less than 50% of those miners can do a 51% attack on BTC, so BTC will need to change their POW as they are planning now, at that point BTC will no longer be BTC but just another altcoin, and a technically inferior coin to many other altcoins.

So why wait for everything to fall apart when the only option is to choose an altcoin and start using it.
 
Seems you are a crazy supporter of altcoins.For your kind information,Bitcoin will remain alive and BU will disappear in the mean coarse of time.RIP Altcoins.
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March 25, 2017, 04:00:40 AM
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So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Donald Trump Bitcoin.
can you lend me your magic future telling ball so that i can see my future in it. i promise to give it back to you fast.

Anyways, if there is a split then BTC will not survive as BU needs 70% miner support and if there is 70% support, even less than 50% of those miners can do a 51% attack on BTC, so BTC will need to change their POW as they are planning now, at that point BTC will no longer be BTC but just another altcoin, and a technically inferior coin to many other altcoins.

if there is a 30% leftover they will switch too. and if you keep saying "change POW" and miners feel threatened we will end up having 95-100% hashrate on BU which is going to be awesome. not because i like BU, no i beleive it is a bad idea right now, but because a 95-100% consensus means a smooth fork.

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March 25, 2017, 04:05:20 AM
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HODL (both chains)

Should a split happen, this is exactly what I plan to do, at least until I know which one will win  Wink
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March 25, 2017, 04:57:34 AM
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So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Donald Trump Bitcoin.

If only core developers were capable/motivated/competent to find a solution to increase block size so that people can continue using bitcoin without paying ridiculous fees and insane confirmation time.
Anyways, if there is a split then BTC will not survive as BU needs 70% miner support and if there is 70% support, even less than 50% of those miners can do a 51% attack on BTC, so BTC will need to change their POW as they are planning now, at that point BTC will no longer be BTC but just another altcoin, and a technically inferior coin to many other altcoins.

So why wait for everything to fall apart when the only option is to choose an altcoin and start using it.
 

Therefore, the hard fork is confirmed by BU? Or still under pending status?

ROFL on the Chinese Bitcoin and Donald Trump Bitcoin.

Why is this scenario occur?
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March 25, 2017, 05:40:55 AM
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The name says it all. Is this some kind of movement to bring down bitcoin. I dont think it can with just mere words.
I think you should put links that are saying facts before you spit that out. No matter what it will come back to its real value after all of this ends. At least now, just make profits of what is happening or buy some more seeing it is getting cheaper.

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March 25, 2017, 05:52:42 AM
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If you ask me, the winner of the war will be the coin that is called "BTC" or "Bitcoin" by the exchanges and the press in the future. That is what sheeple know. Sad

This.  Because bitcoin is just a brand name now.
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March 25, 2017, 06:17:19 AM
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If you ask me, the winner of the war will be the coin that is called "BTC" or "Bitcoin" by the exchanges and the press in the future. That is what sheeple know. Sad

This.  Because bitcoin is just a brand name now.


congratulations you have won the understatement of the year award Wink

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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March 25, 2017, 07:05:46 AM
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If Bitcoin is dead why'd you bother to register on bitcoin site, dumb newb?
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March 25, 2017, 07:10:05 AM
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If Bitcoin is dead why'd you bother to register on bitcoin site, dumb newb?
Because there is no other place on the Internet where his lack of knowledge will be embraced except bitcointalk.

So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Donald Trump Bitcoin.
If only core developers were capable/motivated/competent to find a solution to increase block size so that people can continue using bitcoin without paying ridiculous fees and insane confirmation time.
Chinese Bitcoin! I choose you!!!
P.S. : You don't have the credibility to judge the decisions made by Core Developers.
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March 25, 2017, 07:11:11 AM
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If Bitcoin is dead why'd you bother to register on bitcoin site, dumb newb?
to spread the fud and make some shake its either ways he wanted to have his alt being supported or he wanted to get those dumped btc
inside his bag, we can't say whats the reason behind and its really cute why he needed to post this inside btc discussion while he wanted to
promote some alts even though he didn't name one.
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March 25, 2017, 07:34:42 AM
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i can't understand why bitcoin can not change pow, without remaining bitcoin an being seen as an alt? if this is what is needed to fix the upcomign issue why not?

changing the pow don't broke the fundamental law of bitcoin, like changing the 21M supply which would kill the way the deflation inflation rate work

i'm all for changing the pow, i was sad when asic coe and destroy the profit for the average miners, bit coin mining was too centralized anyway, let them take their asic-chain, cough BU cough away... who care about that

also remember that the exchange are with us, so BU have already lost from the beginning, no matter what they do
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March 25, 2017, 07:37:11 AM
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So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Donald Trump Bitcoin.

If only core developers were capable/motivated/competent to find a solution to increase block size so that people can continue using bitcoin without paying ridiculous fees and insane confirmation time.
Anyways, if there is a split then BTC will not survive as BU needs 70% miner support and if there is 70% support, even less than 50% of those miners can do a 51% attack on BTC, so BTC will need to change their POW as they are planning now, at that point BTC will no longer be BTC but just another altcoin, and a technically inferior coin to many other altcoins.

So why wait for everything to fall apart when the only option is to choose an altcoin and start using it.
 

If the Core changes the PoW and the cost of mining one bitcoin is just $50, then the price of bitcoin will crash.
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March 25, 2017, 08:04:36 AM
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I don't think bitcoin is dead, yea ........yea .... There are some problem in bitcoin but doesn't mean bitcoin will be die
we just needs solution for all of comunity bitcoin, fixing the problem of bitcoin.
And doesn't mean altcoins will be better than bitcoin all of digital coins are still new must needs fixing.
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March 25, 2017, 08:08:17 AM
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i can't understand why bitcoin can not change pow, without remaining bitcoin an being seen as an alt? if this is what is needed to fix the upcomign issue why not?

If that is what people want, why don't they switch to litecoin ?  It is "bitcoin with another PoW", and with 4 times more room on the chain.  Moreover, it has Segwit also ready.  So the thing you are hoping for, exists already several years.  Why don't people switch massively to Litecoin ?

I will tell you: because it is called Litecoin.

Litecoin is almost as "pristine" as bitcoin.  The simple fact that it is not called "bitcoin" is what holds people back.  

This illustrates the irrationality of this whole happening.  Bickering over would-be things that exist already for years next door, because it doesn't have the right brand name.

What core is trying to do, is already done since years.  Next door.

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March 25, 2017, 08:10:41 AM
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If the Core changes the PoW and the cost of mining one bitcoin is just $50, then the price of bitcoin will crash.

Yes, I wonder what will happen to the "most secure chain" propaganda when Joe Sixpack can make a block on his PC.
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March 25, 2017, 05:06:15 PM
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I kept on wondering what is happening to our dear Bitcoin it had been falling in the past weeks all my bitcoins in my wallet had been dropping what could be use to stop the drop?or is this the end of bitcoin? let market forces let go back up.

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March 25, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
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When bitcoin split into 2, I don't think it's bad, as anyone who have bitcoin will have both new assets, with total value possibly no less than before.
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