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April 23, 2013, 06:32:35 PM
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This thread just reminded me that I forgot to send in my info for the liquidation claims process.  I think the deadline was sometime in January.  Oops.  But, the odds of getting those 150BTC back, or anything remotely close to that amount, seemed, and still seemed, so remote that it just wasn't on my mind.  I guess somebody's got them, will get them, so you're welcome zou, or Amir, or liquidators, or whoever ends up with them.  I've just been counting that as the cost of learning the value of offline security.

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April 23, 2013, 10:13:46 PM
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I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

My thoughts exactly. He can't be 18, that's ridiculous. And if I remember correctly he was "18" about 1.5 years ago when I first heard about Bitcoinica, and already I had my doubts about his age. So he should update his legend and suddenly grow up to at least 19.
Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.

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April 23, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.

Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.

Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.

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April 23, 2013, 10:36:29 PM
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I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

My thoughts exactly. He can't be 18, that's ridiculous. And if I remember correctly he was "18" about 1.5 years ago when I first heard about Bitcoinica, and already I had my doubts about his age. So he should update his legend and suddenly grow up to at least 19.
Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.

So you know for a fact what his real date of birth is? Please, if you do in fact know that, then post it here along with proof.




 
 
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April 23, 2013, 10:59:13 PM
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.

Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.

Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.

That's a lie told by AurumXchange. I've never worked for Microsoft. (I didn't even use any Microsoft product at that time.)

Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.

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April 23, 2013, 11:01:30 PM
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Welcome back Zhou.

Look forward to seeing your contributions.

I will raise hell though if you are ever in a position of receiving funds.
But then again, I'm sure you know better and are or would be using another
name and invented identity to run a "bitcon" business

Good Luck! I really do hope the best for you. I'll give you a second chance on
everything except trust.

Thanks. I have been using my real name to do business for my whole life and it's really inconvenient to invent a new identity. So I won't do it.

Trust is not a problem. If I make something that accepts deposits I will most likely impose a small "balance upper limit" (e.g. 10 BTC) that's sufficient to enjoy the services. Since it won't be another exchange, there should be no reason to leave a large amount of balance for a long period of time.

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April 23, 2013, 11:03:35 PM
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.
Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.
Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.
That's a lie told by AurumXchange. I've never worked for Microsoft. (I didn't even use any Microsoft product at that time.)
Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.
Saw that you posted a plane ticket from when you were 16? or 17?   Are minors allowed to fly internationally by themselves and go through singapore and aussie customs?

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April 23, 2013, 11:06:38 PM
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.
Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.
Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.
That's a lie told by AurumXchange. I've never worked for Microsoft. (I didn't even use any Microsoft product at that time.)
Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.
Saw that you posted a plane ticket from when you were 16? or 17?   Are minors allowed to fly internationally by themselves and go through singapore and aussie customs?

14+ is allowed to fly unaccompanied internationally. Some airlines might require a signed waiver from a parent.

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April 23, 2013, 11:07:46 PM
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April 23, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
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Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.

That's actually quite simple. We've seen pictures, how about you do a Q&A session on Ustream now?

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April 23, 2013, 11:10:06 PM
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.

Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.
HA! If he had once worked for Microsoft, Bitcoinica would have still been around to this day. I may not know for sure what his age is, but I can tell how old of a programmer he is. He is young enough that he hasn't worked for a big enough company that has actual coding standards.

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April 23, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
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Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.

Just don't believe for a second that one year has erased the memories of your theft.  Once we have you in person we will be looking to collect the rest that you owe us.

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April 23, 2013, 11:37:13 PM
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Very few people have met me so far

Name one.  Just one on this forum who has any level of trust, and is known face-to-face by other users.

One.

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April 23, 2013, 11:44:32 PM
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I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

Unless he has excellent counterfeit ID, he's 18.  He was able to incorporate NameTerrific as a company on his 18th birthday and that requires producing valid ID here.

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Yes.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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April 23, 2013, 11:49:15 PM
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Let me say a few things, Zhou Tong. I don't know if Bitcoinica was properly registered and where, but if it was, then CJH should be a member of the company and we should be able to see his name on some documents, or otherwise he shouldn't get access to the password, which is the company's assets, right? If you are not careful with that, then you have to prepare for the consequences, which is what you're experiencing now:you are unable to prove your innocence. For another, providing that you told the truth about the hacking incident, you were still being irresponsible for not properly storing the company's funds in cold wallets.

Whatever maybe the case, try to stay low key, your return will not be something worth celebrating about as many people, especially victims of the hacking incident, will remain suspicious about you.

Read the old thread in which Zhou trots out the Chinese relic collector story and how that person just happened to have access to Zhou's password.  It's pretty amusing.

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I explained it 11 months ago and no one read.

Plenty of people read it.  It sounded like a crock of shit then and it still sounds like a crock of shit now.

BTW, why was your name even on the proposed confidential settlement agreement if you were merely a Bitcoinica employee at the time that proposal was made.  Why did Jesse Powell post here that you and Tihan had agreed to that proposal when your agreement should have been utterly irrelevant if you had no official role in Bitcoinica?

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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April 23, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
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Let me say a few things, Zhou Tong. I don't know if Bitcoinica was properly registered and where, but if it was, then CJH should be a member of the company and we should be able to see his name on some documents, or otherwise he shouldn't get access to the password, which is the company's assets, right? If you are not careful with that, then you have to prepare for the consequences, which is what you're experiencing now:you are unable to prove your innocence. For another, providing that you told the truth about the hacking incident, you were still being irresponsible for not properly storing the company's funds in cold wallets.

Whatever maybe the case, try to stay low key, your return will not be something worth celebrating about as many people, especially victims of the hacking incident, will remain suspicious about you.

Read the old thread in which Zhou trots out the Chinese relic collector story and how that person just happened to have access to Zhou's password.  It's pretty amusing.

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I explained it 11 months ago and no one read.

Plenty of people read it.  It sounded like a crock of shit then and it still sounds like a crock of shit now.

No. It was a confusion. The "password" in the reply to Goat referred to the password of the sock puppet account. It had nothing to do with Bitcoinica.

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April 23, 2013, 11:58:02 PM
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I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

Unless he has excellent counterfeit ID, he's 18.  He was able to incorporate NameTerrific as a company on his 18th birthday and that requires producing valid ID here.


I didn't produce ID when I incorporate the company. ASIC doesn't require that nowadays. But directorship is always linked to my credit file, so there's no benefit to lie.

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April 24, 2013, 12:05:30 AM
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Very few people have met me so far

Name one.  Just one on this forum who has any level of trust, and is known face-to-face by other users.

One.

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April 24, 2013, 12:08:40 AM
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I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

Unless he has excellent counterfeit ID, he's 18.  He was able to incorporate NameTerrific as a company on his 18th birthday and that requires producing valid ID here.

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Saw that you posted a plane ticket from when you were 16? or 17?   Are minors allowed to fly internationally by themselves and go through singapore and aussie customs?

Yes.

More interesting is that fact that the stamps are on PAGE 20 of his alleged passport. That's a heck of a lot of traveling for someone under 18.  

And at 17, he's also a bronz level frequent flyer. find 1 tiny lie and everything else can be unraveled.

It's amazing that some of you folks actually believe this perps story.


 
 
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April 24, 2013, 12:10:39 AM
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I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

Unless he has excellent counterfeit ID, he's 18.  He was able to incorporate NameTerrific as a company on his 18th birthday and that requires producing valid ID here.

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Saw that you posted a plane ticket from when you were 16? or 17?   Are minors allowed to fly internationally by themselves and go through singapore and aussie customs?

Yes.

More interesting is that fact that the stamps are on PAGE 20 of his alleged passport. That's a heck of a lot of traveling for someone under 18. 

It's amazing that some of you folks actually believe this perps story.

Chinese ports stamp near the visa page. Other ports stamp near other stamps. There are a few empty pages before Page 20.

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