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[adaseb]

Coindice - the script that Paradice is built upon - generates the number fairly in the sense that it's randomly chosen and not biased. It's provably fair at the hash level - the player's roll is the same as the roll that the site provides the hash of - but it's not provably fair at the RNG level. The admin could theoretically edit the code so that it generates biased results and players wouldn't know or be able to do anything about it (due to the lack of a client seed). However, it's unlikely that Paradice (or any other site) would do anything like that - such a system implemented without great care could make a site more vulnerable to potential exploits - and I'm pretty sure there's no scam going on here, at least with the rolls. MafiaCoin's 'proof' post makes no sense - at best he just has no idea how it works, at worst he's just trying to cause trouble.

However, while it's unlikely that the site is cheating, personally I'd advise steering clear of paradice unless they implement a true provably fair system with a client seed option and rework their rules. A 'one account per user' rule on a Coindice-based site - where users are likely to accidentally create multiple accounts due to the automatic generation of them - is suspicious and could be used as an excuse to withhold legitimate withdrawals, and the same goes for a horribly vague rule like 'don't faucet farm' rather than having specific limitations on the use of the faucet.

Yes I agree. Its a strange way of making the game provably fair because there is no "client seed" which can change the hashed result but it still means the game is fair and you can verify your hashed seed AFTER you roll and find out if you were scammed.

There are many sites that have a client seed which is generated by the casino, and most people never alter this seed. Which means that technically the casino can alter it in a way and hope you don't change your betting style so you end up losing.

Most people don't understand that usually the casino knows if your rolls will win or not before they are taken place.

Maybe there is a way how some casinos cheat this way or not. I mean its possible that the casino can learn that you are "Betting 50/50 and Martingale on losses" they can just hash some seeds ahead of time and choose one where they hope you will have sequential losses after a certain amount of bets. I mean its possible and even if you verified the seed, it would show that they were true.

Only way to protect yourself from this would be to manually change the seed after each and every bet.

[ParaDice.io]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

No alt..
Please read it before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18764834#msg18764834

Friends don't play paradice.io

I am totally sure we never closed your account or anything like that. It will be nice to stop spamming our thread with useless accusations.

Lacker

[veleten]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts

[d0flaming0]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts

I really do think this is running or going to somewhere unbelievable. Most of the people accusing got red tags with them, how can assure that we will all believe on those accusations that they spit out?

Its really effort wasting, why would they just throw away their accounts with such no basis accusation?

[veleten]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts

I really do think this is running or going to somewhere unbelievable. Most of the people accusing got red tags with them, how can assure that we will all believe on those accusations that they spit out?

Its really effort wasting, why would they just throw away their accounts with such no basis accusation?

because if a player like Mafia can,allegedly,create 40 dice site accounts and abuse faucet
he sure as hell can create 40 forum accounts and it takes only some effort for him,so he can use them as disposable tribunes
to try and molest sites like paradice,but at the moment he is just creating free advertising for them,nothing more
admin should reward such a valiant effort,haha

[adaseb]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts

I really do think this is running or going to somewhere unbelievable. Most of the people accusing got red tags with them, how can assure that we will all believe on those accusations that they spit out?

Its really effort wasting, why would they just throw away their accounts with such no basis accusation?

because if a player like Mafia can,allegedly,create 40 dice site accounts and abuse faucet
he sure as hell can create 40 forum accounts and it takes only some effort for him,so he can use them as disposable tribunes
to try and molest sites like paradice,but at the moment he is just creating free advertising for them,nothing more
admin should reward such a valiant effort,haha

I am pretty sure he scams many other casinos sites this way and they keep doing this until the site owner pays out so they can end the bad publicity or they are just tired of the threats. Since its a very small amount most casino devs just pay the BTC and move on with their life.

He is starting so many threads and posting false info like "bad provably seeds", etc. That makes me wonder how much longer he is going to keep doing this until he gives up.

[Bitinity]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

No alt..
Please read it before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18764834#msg18764834

Friends don't play paradice.io

I am totally sure we never closed your account or anything like that. It will be nice to stop spamming our thread with useless accusations.

Lacker

WTF scammer?
Refund my money!
Not fair site!

You did not even provide a single proof that you won, did you? or at least give the txid of your deposit on this site. Dont make a baseless accusation buddy, because it is useless and you are just wasting your time for it.

[milewilda]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts

I really do think this is running or going to somewhere unbelievable. Most of the people accusing got red tags with them, how can assure that we will all believe on those accusations that they spit out?

Its really effort wasting, why would they just throw away their accounts with such no basis accusation?

because if a player like Mafia can,allegedly,create 40 dice site accounts and abuse faucet
he sure as hell can create 40 forum accounts and it takes only some effort for him,so he can use them as disposable tribunes
to try and molest sites like paradice,but at the moment he is just creating free advertising for them,nothing more
admin should reward such a valiant effort,haha

I am pretty sure he scams many other casinos sites this way and they keep doing this until the site owner pays out so they can end the bad publicity or they are just tired of the threats. Since its a very small amount most casino devs just pay the BTC and move on with their life.

He is starting so many threads and posting false info like "bad provably seeds", etc. That makes me wonder how much longer he is going to keep doing this until he gives up.

People nowadays strive so hard just to make money on a certain site its either on both ways like giving false accusations just to ruin the reputation of the site or abusing the system.Its not only Paradice do experience these faucet hunters but most of all specially to those sites who dont have ip restriction is commonly having these problems.One day Mafia will surely be tired on pursuing his aims coz no one really believe at all.

[MafiaCoin]

wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin

sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts

I really do think this is running or going to somewhere unbelievable. Most of the people accusing got red tags with them, how can assure that we will all believe on those accusations that they spit out?

Its really effort wasting, why would they just throw away their accounts with such no basis accusation?

because if a player like Mafia can,allegedly,create 40 dice site accounts and abuse faucet
he sure as hell can create 40 forum accounts and it takes only some effort for him,so he can use them as disposable tribunes
to try and molest sites like paradice,but at the moment he is just creating free advertising for them,nothing more
admin should reward such a valiant effort,haha

I am pretty sure he scams many other casinos sites this way and they keep doing this until the site owner pays out so they can end the bad publicity or they are just tired of the threats. Since its a very small amount most casino devs just pay the BTC and move on with their life.

He is starting so many threads and posting false info like "bad provably seeds", etc. That makes me wonder how much longer he is going to keep doing this until he gives up.

People nowadays strive so hard just to make money on a certain site its either on both ways like giving false accusations just to ruin the reputation of the site or abusing the system.Its not only Paradice do experience these faucet hunters but most of all specially to those sites who dont have ip restriction is commonly having these problems.One day Mafia will surely be tired on pursuing his aims coz no one really believe at all.

...
why you don't belive me?
I post all proof and my deposit txid. see screenshot and video!
I don't use faucet.

He stole my deposit!
paradice.io fucking SCAMMER!!!

[Barrymore]

I also have a problem with the output. Earlier there were no problems. Maybe really a problem with the site. Admin Paradise io if you can solve my problem contact me in PM.

[ParaDice.io]

I also have a problem with the output. Earlier there were no problems. Maybe really a problem with the site. Admin Paradise io if you can solve my problem contact me in PM.

I double checked, there is no problem. Can you be a little more specific?

Lacker

[coin.trader]

Any new give aways in near future?

[coin.trader]

@dicendice, do you have any proof that you had that ammount on your balance? If so Paradice will need to come with fair proofs

[coin.trader]

@dicendice, do you have any proof that you had that ammount on your balance? If so Paradice will need to come with fair proofs

why answer for paradice.io, who are you man?
how i can get proof if my account was deleted..

I see this is not first case of not paying...
many people can't withdraw winnings and deposit.
very bad.

I don't answer for paradice but I get notifications about every topic I replied. As I read most of coments are against you and that's why I am asking if you have any kind of proofs.

Personally I can believe you that this actually happened to you

[adaseb]

@dicendice, do you have any proof that you had that ammount on your balance? If so Paradice will need to come with fair proofs

why answer for paradice.io, who are you man?
how i can get proof if my account was deleted..

I see this is not first case of not paying...
many people can't withdraw winnings and deposit.
very bad.

Its very difficult to come to a conclusion due to just 2 people complaining about being scammed. Both of you guys have new accounts and both your accounts have red trust. There is no way of telling whether these 2 alt accounts are actually linked together.

Also reading your trust, you were accused of trying to run a Ponzi scheme back in Feb 2017. This type of behaviour doesn't bode well when you try to call some other service a scam.

If for example Paradice.io is a scam, then much more people would complain and they would have a higher ranking than "newbie" accounts and the website would be put under investigation.

[Bitinity]

@dicendice, do you have any proof that you had that ammount on your balance? If so Paradice will need to come with fair proofs

why answer for paradice.io, who are you man?
how i can get proof if my account was deleted..

I see this is not first case of not paying...
many people can't withdraw winnings and deposit.
very bad.

You claims that you have 0.07xxbtc on your account so I guess you made it by deposit instead of earning it from faucet only. Showing your deposit transaction is enough to proof that you really play on this site.
How do we believe in what you say if you have no proofs?

[coin.trader]

@dicendice, do you have any proof that you had that ammount on your balance? If so Paradice will need to come with fair proofs

why answer for paradice.io, who are you man?
how i can get proof if my account was deleted..

I see this is not first case of not paying...
many people can't withdraw winnings and deposit.
very bad.

I don't answer for paradice but I get notifications about every topic I replied. As I read most of coments are against you and that's why I am asking if you have any kind of proofs.

Personally I can believe you that this actually happened to you

OMG, why you hide your trust?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18770016#msg18770016
I see you are alt account piradice.io

So this is your technique? I mean you stop spamming with mafiacoin account and now you spam with this username? Be serious. I actually played 3 times on this gambling website and I had not even a problem. I can't understand you people... What you're doing is actually in Paradice interest to be  have the gambling thread on first every time.

A user asked you a few messages ago to post the deposit txd. Where it is? From this moment I'll take your shit personally.

[Roboabhishek]

@dicendice, do you have any proof that you had that ammount on your balance? If so Paradice will need to come with fair proofs

why answer for paradice.io, who are you man?
how i can get proof if my account was deleted..

I see this is not first case of not paying...
many people can't withdraw winnings and deposit.
very bad.

I don't answer for paradice but I get notifications about every topic I replied. As I read most of coments are against you and that's why I am asking if you have any kind of proofs.

Personally I can believe you that this actually happened to you

OMG, why you hide your trust?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18770016#msg18770016
I see you are alt account piradice.io

As bitinfinity said,
Provide the tx id of the deposit u made on the paradice.
That will be enough proof needed that you made 0.07.

[coin.trader]

He has nothing to provide, just spam and idiot accusations.

I can't understand this type of people.

[ParaDice.io]

We just started a new give away. Check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1899645