When I talk to NON-BitcoinTalkers they don't know..

[spartacusrex]

All this panic and vitriol really isn't necessary..

BU vs CORE, big blocks vs SegWit blah blah blah.. .. ALL the people who live outside of the little bubble most of us live in, here, have NEVER heard of any of this.

lol.. they sort of look at me blankly and say : Whhhaattt ? .. er..  So there are 2 Bitcoins ?

I then say - no, not yet...

And then we start talking about something else.

They HAVE heard of Bitcoin though. (And they haven't heard of any other coins I might add.. too much information for them)

..

Honestly - I think we get a bit toooo wrapped up in it. Stroking our 'precious' Bitcoin..

We need to get out more. 'BitBoy' will still be here when we get back.

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..I'm off to the park.

(ps. Just sent some mBTC.. they received it instantly on their phone (as always - just not confirmed).. an hour later I had 3 confirms.. Mempool down to 2MB.. meh.. all systems seem to be back to normal.. really not sure what all the fuss is about.. hehe)

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[franky1]

good to see that you are finally out of your reddit script cabin fever corner.
and had that epiphany moment

fresh air does many people good.
currently im on a beach with a blue sky with a hint of white fluffy cloud.

once you realise there are well over a dozen implementations. and that there is only one fighting for top TIER network (core). the rest want mutual independent consensus in a peer network

hopefully you start to see the bigger picture of the meaning of the words diverse decentralisation. you will start to see the importance of what independent diverse node consensus is all about.

may the fresh air aid you more into seeing behind the 'blame Bu at all costs' scripts of reddit and start seeing the big picture.

enjoy your stroll through the park

[olubams]

All this panic and vitriol really isn't necessary..

BU vs CORE, big blocks vs SegWit blah blah blah.. .. ALL the people who live outside of the little bubble most of us live in, here, have NEVER heard of any of this.

lol.. they sort of look at me blankly and say : Whhhaattt ? .. er..  So there are 2 Bitcoins ?

I then say - no, not yet...

And then we start talking about something else.

They HAVE heard of Bitcoin though. (And they haven't heard of any other coins I might add.. too much information for them)

..

Honestly - I think we get a bit toooo wrapped up in it. Stroking our 'precious' Bitcoin..

We need to get out more. 'BitBoy' will still be here when we get back.

..

..I'm off to the park.

(ps. Just sent some mBTC.. they received it instantly on their phone (as always - just not confirmed).. an hour later I had 3 confirms.. Mempool down to 2MB.. meh.. all systems seem to be back to normal.. really not sure what all the fuss is about.. hehe)

Its not only your friends that are ignorant even majority of people here are only farer than your friend only by little knowledge of basic use of bitcoin. When it comes to any technicality that surrounds bitcoin, we become lost along the line. People like that and myself inclusive will always avoid discussion when it gets to that level...

[HabBear]

lol.. they sort of look at me blankly and say : Whhhaattt ? .. er..  So there are 2 Bitcoins ?

I then say - no, not yet...

And then we start talking about something else.

They HAVE heard of Bitcoin though. (And they haven't heard of any other coins I might add.. too much information for them)

If this is the result of your conversations you're explaining it wrong.

If someone came up to you and started talking about something you've heard of but know NOTHING about, would you understand any of it other than the fact that it's English? No.

You need to ease into Bitcoin discussions with folks who aren't in the world. Think about scenarios in that person's world that make good bitcoin analogies.

[forthewin]

Most people I talk to may have heard of bitcoin but have no idea how to get any. In fact, most of them don't know what bitcoin is.

[Tyrantt]

Most people I talk to may have heard of bitcoin but have no idea how to get any. In fact, most of them don't know what bitcoin is.

I've had talks like these for quite a few times. Tho after a dozen of talks about bitcoin and how to earn it, only one friend remained active here.

I tend to keep all the deeper tech stuff out of the conversation since it only leads to confusion, keep it simple when talking to someone who's not into bitcoin.

[target]

My brother's wife is also into bitcoin but not into trading. She is into hypes in facebook and doublers and so when I asked her about what her side on BU whether she is a pro or not and I got no respond to it. I was amaze how they were crazily investing to bitcoin when I told her the price is going down and o show her the graph from coinmarketcap and the price. But what she just said is that, it will be back to 1200.

They have so much trust to bitcoin that they never know what ETH and Monero.  I figured I;m not the right person to talk to her about it. I guess I just have to let her realize on her own.

[piloder]

(ps. Just sent some mBTC.. they received it instantly on their phone (as always - just not confirmed).. an hour later I had 3 confirms.. Mempool down to 2MB.. meh.. all systems seem to be back to normal.. really not sure what all the fuss is about.. hehe)

Yes mempool is almost empty these days, i think spam attack on bitcoin network from BU supporters have stopped lately because they failed to deliver bug free software. After few more weeks we may again see similar congestion on mempool to create hypothetical panic so that people start to believe 1mb block is not enough for bitcoin.  

[franky1]

(ps. Just sent some mBTC.. they received it instantly on their phone (as always - just not confirmed).. an hour later I had 3 confirms.. Mempool down to 2MB.. meh.. all systems seem to be back to normal.. really not sure what all the fuss is about.. hehe)

Yes mempool is almost empty these days, i think spam attack on bitcoin network from BU supporters have stopped lately because they failed to deliver bug free software. After few more weeks we may again see similar congestion on mempool to create hypothetical panic so that people start to believe 1mb block is not enough for bitcoin.  

check the dates of the mempool attack.
june/july 2016.
then it settled down
then increased in october ongoing until recently
https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=1year

this was a core orchestrated attack to try swaying peoples belief that core features are desperately needed.
CSV in june/july.. segwit in the autumn

now core are planning a mandatory activation(UASF) they dont need to sway people over any more

meanwhile other implementations like BU have been running for years. no deadlines, no threats. no mandatory activations. no mining PoW nukes

[spartacusrex]

enjoy your stroll through the park

Thanks. Enjoy the beach!..
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( ps I'm not on reddit.. )

[Qartada]

(ps. Just sent some mBTC.. they received it instantly on their phone (as always - just not confirmed).. an hour later I had 3 confirms.. Mempool down to 2MB.. meh.. all systems seem to be back to normal.. really not sure what all the fuss is about.. hehe)

Yes mempool is almost empty these days, i think spam attack on bitcoin network from BU supporters have stopped lately because they failed to deliver bug free software. After few more weeks we may again see similar congestion on mempool to create hypothetical panic so that people start to believe 1mb block is not enough for bitcoin.  

check the dates of the mempool attack.
june/july 2016.
then it settled down
then increased in october ongoing until recently
https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=1year

this was a core orchestrated attack to try swaying peoples belief that core features are desperately needed.
CSV in june/july.. segwit in the autumn

now core are planning a mandatory activation(UASF) they dont need to sway people over any more

meanwhile other implementations like BU have been running for years. no deadlines, no threats. no mandatory activations. no mining PoW nukes

It's not like BU would do a mandatory activation when they're not even the development team and they need to manipulate people into supporting them before the new coin would actually be successful.

[findingthemoon]

Most people I talk to may have heard of bitcoin but have no idea how to get any. In fact, most of them don't know what bitcoin is.

Which is a great leap up from just a few years ago when most people hadn't even heard of bitcoin.

As for not knowing how to get any I agree and to add to it one problem with your average person is that it is either too complicated to use or perceived as such so a lot of people never bother trying. It is still in the geeky phase right now but maybe this situation will change again after a few years.

[pooya87]

BU vs CORE, big blocks vs SegWit blah blah blah.. .. ALL the people who live outside of the little bubble most of us live in, here, have NEVER heard of any of this.
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They HAVE heard of Bitcoin though. And they haven't heard of any other coins
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i am loving your topics lately, you are stating facts that some people seems to have forgotten or ignored lately.
where i live people know about bitcoin and use it for online purchasing stuff and they don't really "follow the news" specially not in English and unless someone goes there and starts telling them about it, they never hear it and continue using bitcoin happily.

and yeah, it is so funny about altcoins. we, here, know about them and some of us in details but outside of this world if you tell someone about an altcoin they stare at you with a blank face.
then you come back here and see topics saying "... people are adopting blah blah coin..."

[Killerpotleaf]

[dihari]

Honestly, maybe I am that guy. I don't understand about what is bigblock or segwit, I don't understand why bitcoin unlimited is needed. Even if I am a senior member here, but I can't​ get what people talk about this topic. Simply, I don't understand phyton, c++, or anything. I am just an ordinary man that enjoying bitcoin as my simple, instant, and anonymous payments.
By my sight, what bitcoin need is only spread out the whole world. Let all these ++7billion peoples know about bitcoin. If bitcoin want to be spread, it should simple and easy to understand. It doesn't need to be something complicated. Imho

[iamTom123]

BU vs CORE, big blocks vs SegWit blah blah blah.. .. ALL the people who live outside of the little bubble most of us live in, here, have NEVER heard of any of this.
~
They HAVE heard of Bitcoin though. And they haven't heard of any other coins
~

i am loving your topics lately, you are stating facts that some people seems to have forgotten or ignored lately.
where i live people know about bitcoin and use it for online purchasing stuff and they don't really "follow the news" specially not in English and unless someone goes there and starts telling them about it, they never hear it and continue using bitcoin happily.

and yeah, it is so funny about altcoins. we, here, know about them and some of us in details but outside of this world if you tell someone about an altcoin they stare at you with a blank face.
then you come back here and see topics saying "... people are adopting blah blah coin..."

I once walked into a big commercial bank here in my country to deposit money intended to buy Bitcoin and the teller was asking me what was the purchase for and told her about Bitcoin her face went blank because it was just the first time for her to hear such a term. Here in the cryptocurrency world, we feel the massive adoption of Bitcoin and other altcoins but outside of here, people majority of them are still unaware about the existence of Bitcoin.

[doomistake]

They are Non-BitcoinTalkers just like you have said, of course from the word itself, obviously they don't about bitcoin, they don't have any idea about it even though you said to to them, but if you are going to explain it to them one by one from the basic, then probably they are going to understand it.

Jumping on the higher level that fast won't help them to understand, so introducing it to them is better than only saying what is BU and other Altcoin stuffs.

[Owl_Fintech]

This is probably true. Last year, when I started using Bitcoin, there was the same FUD, but I did not even know who Mike Hearn was. I just had time to think about how to accumulate more Bitcoin.

[Kakmakr]

I am glad some people are not into the technical part of this discussion, because we already have a bunch of drama queens taking all the shine in conflicts like this. < Roger Dodger & Mike Hearn aka RageQuit >

These discussions can get messy at times, because a lot of Testosterone is involved here to see who will be the Alpha male in this community or even in the forums. < Now that I think of this, where are the females?>  ^smile^

[LTU_btc]

I also noticed that mostly people who are not members of bitcointalk haven't heard anything about SegWit, BitcoinUnlimited and etc. And it's very hard to explain it them, because mostly people are not familiar with bitcoin technical details.
But honestly, I'm not that guy who can explain it properly, because I know only few main things about BU, SegWit and etc.