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April 01, 2017, 08:37:27 PM
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Russia is not democracy




Do You need the direction to take with Yous lessons about the democracy?
Do you personally know what democracy is and what are its bases for a civilized society? To read the lessons of literate people is One, but you must also have your own understanding.
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April 01, 2017, 08:47:00 PM
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Do You need the direction to take with Yous lessons about the democracy?
Do you personally know what democracy is and what are its bases for a civilized society? To read the lessons of literate people is One, but you must also have your own understanding.

What do You waiting to explain, how the apartheid is a part of "democratic country" and other shit, that You call "civilized society".

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April 01, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
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In my opinion, its Terrorist organisations such as ISIS, AL QAEDA who are the real enemies in the modern world, The US and Russia became enemies because of the war, the three super powers instead of coming together decided to form allies, Britain sided with USA and this left Russia out and thus the start of the Cold War and the animosity between them that still stands today.
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April 02, 2017, 04:00:39 AM
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In my opinion, its Terrorist organisations such as ISIS, AL QAEDA who are the real enemies in the modern world, The US and Russia became enemies because of the war, the three super powers instead of coming together decided to form allies, Britain sided with USA and this left Russia out and thus the start of the Cold War and the animosity between them that still stands today.

Historically, the Western nations have sided with anyone (including the radical Islamists) to defeat Russia and its allies (such as Serbia and Bulgaria). There are hundreds of examples, such as the Crimean war and the recent conflicts in Kosovo and Macedonia.

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April 13, 2017, 04:55:05 AM
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In my opinion, its Terrorist organisations such as ISIS, AL QAEDA who are the real enemies in the modern world, The US and Russia became enemies because of the war...

But what do you mean?

Is a person in isis or al qaeda the enemy, the way a person from Russia used to be?

Is there some deficiency in those isis al qaeda types the same way there used to be a deficiency in Russians? Or is it that isis alqaeda attracts stupid people who must be killed to prevent their becoming murderers? Are they treatable? Or only through a riflescope?
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April 13, 2017, 10:29:07 AM
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In the 1960s there were two superpowers. One superpower had ensured the possibility of eliminating the other and vice versa. This nuclear "balance of terror" that humanity has experienced so strongly with the missile crisis in Cuba 1962, was created a situation which was called MAD, or Mutually Assured Destruction. Nowadays, USA and Russia ensure a different way with a kind of balance of terror in Syria. Under this light is difficult someone to believe that both of them are friends. Is not that right?
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April 13, 2017, 10:36:59 AM
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In my opinion, its Terrorist organisations such as ISIS, AL QAEDA who are the real enemies in the modern world, The US and Russia became enemies because of the war, the three super powers instead of coming together decided to form allies, Britain sided with USA and this left Russia out and thus the start of the Cold War and the animosity between them that still stands today.

Historically, the Western nations have sided with anyone (including the radical Islamists) to defeat Russia and its allies (such as Serbia and Bulgaria). There are hundreds of examples, such as the Crimean war and the recent conflicts in Kosovo and Macedonia.
Any civilized country always takes the side of a country that was attacked. Until the Imperial policy of Russia will not change on her side will only dictatorial regimes of the East and Asia.
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April 13, 2017, 10:42:04 AM
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Historically, the Western nations have sided with anyone (including the radical Islamists) to defeat Russia and its allies (such as Serbia and Bulgaria). There are hundreds of examples, such as the Crimean war and the recent conflicts in Kosovo and Macedonia.
Any civilized country always takes the side of a country that was attacked. Until the Imperial policy of Russia will not change on her side will only dictatorial regimes of the East and Asia.

Yeah sure... so as per your logic, since the ISIS is under attack in Syria from the Russian warplanes, the NATO should support the ISIS. Wonderful! Reminds me of the support you gave to the Al Qaeda in the 1980s, when the Soviets were attacking them.

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April 13, 2017, 10:47:09 AM
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Historically, the Western nations have sided with anyone (including the radical Islamists) to defeat Russia and its allies (such as Serbia and Bulgaria). There are hundreds of examples, such as the Crimean war and the recent conflicts in Kosovo and Macedonia.
Any civilized country always takes the side of a country that was attacked. Until the Imperial policy of Russia will not change on her side will only dictatorial regimes of the East and Asia.

Yeah sure... so as per your logic, since the ISIS is under attack in Syria from the Russian warplanes, the NATO should support the ISIS. Wonderful! Reminds me of the support you gave to the Al Qaeda in the 1980s, when the Soviets were attacking them.
Still need to figure out who supports ISIS. I think that they are beneficial to all. When Russian sponsor them they create problems to the West, the Americans are sponsoring, they create problems for Assad. Muslims are nothing but to not fight and they are satisfied with this situation.
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Historically, the Western nations have sided with anyone (including the radical Islamists) to defeat Russia and its allies (such as Serbia and Bulgaria). There are hundreds of examples, such as the Crimean war and the recent conflicts in Kosovo and Macedonia.
Any civilized country always takes the side of a country that was attacked. Until the Imperial policy of Russia will not change on her side will only dictatorial regimes of the East and Asia.

Yeah sure... so as per your logic, since the ISIS is under attack in Syria from the Russian warplanes, the NATO should support the ISIS. Wonderful! Reminds me of the support you gave to the Al Qaeda in the 1980s, when the Soviets were attacking them.

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April 13, 2017, 05:07:40 PM
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So there was a russian genocide happening in crimea?

About what are You talking? Do You call the "Crimean Jew Republic" as "Russian"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMtrynfJSw (In Russian)

You are confusing religion with ethnicity.

There are many Russians who are Jews, Muslims, Catholic or Atheist. 
They are all Russians.  They speak Russian at home, like to drink vodka, beat women,  and talk about the glory days of the Soviet Empire.
Or whatever you guys do in your spare time.

They think they are all better than anyone in the West.  Most of them think Americans are morons.

They are all Russians whether you like it or not.

So zatknis suka...
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In the 1960s there were two superpowers. One superpower had ensured the possibility of eliminating the other and vice versa. This nuclear "balance of terror" that humanity has experienced so strongly with the missile crisis in Cuba 1962, was created a situation which was called MAD, or Mutually Assured Destruction. Nowadays, USA and Russia ensure a different way with a kind of balance of terror in Syria. Under this light is difficult someone to believe that both of them are friends. Is not that right?

So called "mutually assured destruction" ultimately served only to pacify groups, not individuals.

Today the focus is increasingly to "suicide bombers" i.e., a natural threat that has existed since before humanity, rather than to artificial political things like m.a.d.

When you read about "suicide bombers" it is usually an article that discredits or mocks them, which is good as it discourages copycats, but if somebody does not understand the basis for the psychology of "suicide bombers" then they are missing history, and that is a lot of people.

A society cannot exist unless it has the mentality among its citizens of an archetypal "suicide bomber". When a people is pacified to the extent that the archetype is not visible then invariably it leads to a sort of natural purge in that society i.e., turmoil etc.

The nonsense of 'Russia vs the U.S.' or 'country a vs country b' is very dangerous in today's world.
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April 13, 2017, 07:34:29 PM
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How do you know that Russian missiles capable of reaching America? Russians might be bluffing. All the weapons Russia inherited after the Soviet collapse. Of new technologies no. The Russians seem to be strong only through propaganda.
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How do you know that Russian missiles capable of reaching America? Russians might be bluffing. All the weapons Russia inherited after the Soviet collapse. Of new technologies no. The Russians seem to be strong only through propaganda.

Russia has plenty of money to get nukes.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the United States purchased billions of dollars worth of highly refined nuclear material and lots of prepared armaments.

With all that cash Russia could buy any weapons it wants, except the people who got the cash are mostly in Europe now probably.

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April 13, 2017, 11:56:28 PM
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How do you know that Russian missiles capable of reaching America? Russians might be bluffing. All the weapons Russia inherited after the Soviet collapse. Of new technologies no. The Russians seem to be strong only through propaganda.

Russia has plenty of money to get nukes.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the United States purchased billions of dollars worth of highly refined nuclear material and lots of prepared armaments.

With all that cash Russia could buy any weapons it wants, except the people who got the cash are mostly in Europe now probably.

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Not so easy in the world to buy weapons of mass destruction, even if you have a lot of money. I'm not sure that all the old Russian weapons able to fight. Russian often bluffing.
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Not so easy in the world to buy weapons of mass destruction, even if you have a lot of money. I'm not sure that all the old Russian weapons able to fight. Russian often bluffing.

There was a reason so much money was paid... so long ago. What money can buy it has already bought.
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