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April 19, 2017, 10:30:43 AM
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OP - your deposit of 15btc has been returned, pls see tx: https://blockexplorer.com/tx/5b327205888be7cb3fdb5f5e371a565de9cd1e1ed6ab28c38832e1c52b30df97

Please confirm you have received it.

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After continuous jabbering from community members you do.But hey ,we got another surprise for you : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1876144.0 Although I didn't had the time to check what he is bragging about but you should definitely start actively responding to your customers apart from your official thread.This time he has something against  your agency.  Lips sealed

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April 19, 2017, 04:55:10 PM
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Can you tell me why is your website regulated  by curacao license? I'll answer this question, It's because to protect yourself in many situation and don't be afraid if you scam anyone, it's safe zone for you, that's why you choose this.
And read this:
You aren't going to give him bitcoins which he won but if he lost 15 bitcoin, would you give him those bitcoins back? Answer this. You want only profit and you aren't giving customers what they deserve, you hang on this.
It's still a little good that you gave him those bitcoins but you still did that action for yourself, to keep your small reputation but for me and for most people that doesn't make sense. If you want to show us that your website is place to bet, than give him amount of won bitcoins.

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April 19, 2017, 05:25:53 PM
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You aren't going to give him bitcoins which he won but if he lost 15 bitcoin, would you give him those bitcoins back?

Nicely said. Question arises would he have been promoted to verify documents if he lost. So far there are many cases on sportsbet which I guess sportsbet only asked after a player processed withdrawal and none of them at the time when player placed a bet or prior to depositing.

However I also feel that KYC documents for Bitcoin casinos are all a joke.

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April 19, 2017, 07:48:54 PM
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To be clear the OP, made over 20 BTC profit from us during the lifespan of this account (from previous deposits, winnings and withdrawals).

If we were only profit motivated, we would not have returned anything from his last deposit. however, we are not a ruthless operation and therefore we are only acting upon the transactions once we discovered the fraud and the player failed to KYC himself; what happened in the past is history. (although it would be well within our rights, as per our terms and conditions, to confiscate all funds)

As we have previously answered in regard to:

“You aren’t going to give him bitcoins which he won but if he lost 15 bitcoin, would you give him those bitcoins back? Answer this. You want only profit and you aren’t giving customers what they deserve, you hang on this.”

If he had lost 15 bitcoin, then the deposit would not have confirmed on the blockchain - that is the effect of a player doing double spend fraud.

In regard to the Curacao license, we need this to be able to offer certain casino games from different casino software providers. to maintain this license, there are certain regulations which provide a framework we need to operate within.

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April 19, 2017, 08:26:07 PM
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To be clear the OP, made over 20 BTC profit from us during the lifespan of this account (from previous deposits, winnings and withdrawals).
He has right to make profit if he is enough lucky. For example I bet 20$ ticket on local online casino and odd was 800, I was lucky, very lucky and won huge amount of money, I was in huge profit but I don't had any issue in withdraw.

If we were only profit motivated, we would not have returned anything from his last deposit.
You did this because there was thread in scam accusation, it would be appreciatable if money was sent back when you two had mail with each other.

If he had lost 15 bitcoin, then the deposit would not have confirmed on the blockchain - that is the effect of a player doing double spend fraud.
No, I mean if he deposited and lost 15 bitcoin, would you send him back his lost money?
If player lose 15, 30, 50 bitcoin, you only will be happy and in this situation you aren't doing any verification process, you enjoy the situation.
If you don't send him what he won, than you won't take what he will lose.


In regard to the Curacao license, we need this to be able to offer certain casino games from different casino software providers. to maintain this license, there are certain regulations which provide a framework we need to operate within.
Ha ha, why do they need curacao? Why won't they accept your local license? Curacao is island which is safer zone for your business.

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April 19, 2017, 08:32:35 PM
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In regard to the Curacao license, we need this to be able to offer certain casino games from different casino software providers.
Which casino software providers require a license from you?


to maintain this license, there are certain regulations which provide a framework we need to operate within.
Do you speak about the frame work gaming server and managing director in Curacao?

Still, what are the requirements and where are they stated?

Are these requirements a secret between you and your licensor? But they are helpful for your customers, right?


If he had lost 15 bitcoin, then the deposit would not have confirmed on the blockchain - that is the effect of a player doing double spend fraud.
Can you cancel a Bitcoin transfer until the first confirmation?

How does NitrogenSports handle this with instant deposits and withdrawals?

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If he had lost 15 bitcoin, then the deposit would not have confirmed on the blockchain - that is the effect of a player doing double spend fraud.
Can you cancel a Bitcoin transfer until the first confirmation?

How do NitrogenSports handle this with instant deposits and withdrawals?

Deposit and withdrawals on Nitrogensports are not instant for your kind information
They require atleast 1 confirmation on your deposit to be able to place bets on their sportsbook. Not sure about casino
And takes 30 mins to 6 hours to process a withdrawal.
All based on my personal recent experience
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April 21, 2017, 08:37:04 PM
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If he had lost 15 bitcoin, then the deposit would not have confirmed on the blockchain - that is the effect of a player doing double spend fraud.
Can you cancel a Bitcoin transfer until the first confirmation?

How do NitrogenSports handle this with instant deposits and withdrawals?

Deposit and withdrawals on Nitrogensports are not instant for your kind information
They require atleast 1 confirmation on your deposit to be able to place bets on their sportsbook. Not sure about casino
And takes 30 mins to 6 hours to process a withdrawal.
All based on my personal recent experience

AS per my experience you cannot cancel a transaction once it is processed, and i also agree that Nitrogensports are not giving instant deposit of your bitcoins they need atleast 1 confirmation and same way the withdraw procedure is also the same.

and after reading all comments one thing is sure that it is not good to play on sportsbet.io site as they are asking KYC when a user deposits high and when they are winning they start the fiat currency process of identification way of KYC which is not good for bitcoin gambling users.
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April 22, 2017, 04:16:00 AM
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All these bitcoin casinos are all criminals, they are all scams. When you lose they are happy and don't even request for anything but when you win they start requesting for unnecessary information. It shows how greedy they are, we have to keep bursting all these scam websites until we have sent ll of them packing. Cloudbet.com is another scam website.
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April 22, 2017, 06:17:04 PM
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OP got his 15BTC

BUT

I don't see any other proof why they didn't payed him his 6.1BTC wining.

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April 23, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
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OP got his 15BTC

BUT

I don't see any other proof why they didn't payed him his 6.1BTC wining.

This is a good qestion, and i am still waiting for the OP to confirm the reception as he haven't answered since a long time.
Maybe sportsbet could ask him to confirm on the thread ? while i doubt he came back to their platform.


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April 23, 2017, 09:53:01 AM
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OP got his 15BTC

BUT

I don't see any other proof why they didn't payed him his 6.1BTC wining.

This is a good qestion, and i am still waiting for the OP to confirm the reception as he haven't answered since a long time.
Maybe sportsbet could ask him to confirm on the thread ? while i doubt he came back to their platform.
Maybe OP received 15btc and hang on this thread because he achieved minimum of what he wanted and there is no chanse for him to receive what hr won and also in this situation he has to be active but suddenly we are doing this.
Also sportsbet didn't answer me correctly on this question:
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You aren't going to give him bitcoins which he won but if he lost 15 bitcoin, would you give him those bitcoins back?
If you still can't understand, I mean lost of 15 bitcoins on your website while gambling and etc.

Also change signature:
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sportsbet.io - #betbigwinbig!
with betbigwinnothing because op bet big and didn't win anything, he nearly lost big Cheesy

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April 23, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
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OP got his 15BTC

BUT

I don't see any other proof why they didn't payed him his 6.1BTC wining.

This is a good qestion, and i am still waiting for the OP to confirm the reception as he haven't answered since a long time.
Maybe sportsbet could ask him to confirm on the thread ? while i doubt he came back to their platform.
Op probably happily got his 15 bitcoins and left the forum forever.He was going to reward some people last I remember.As usual there is no alternative to being helpful.The other 6.1 btc probably got declined due to failed KYC verifications.

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Any update about this accusations? Looks like the sportbet team doesn't care about this thread.
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Very enlightening thread. At least the OP got 15 BTC back. However, it seems it was a pain to get it.


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June 13, 2017, 08:41:30 PM
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I have similar problem with sportsbet.io. I have deposited 3 BTC and won 1.7 BTC. My total balance was more than 4,7 BTC. They closed my balance, returned deposit and confiscated winnings. What was funny, the reason was multi-accounting. It is bullshit, I have only one account. What I am afraid of, I used mobile phone and mobile internet for placing bets. I afraid that it is possible, that for many mobile internet users could be the same ip address .
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June 13, 2017, 08:51:42 PM
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I have similar problem with sportsbet.io. I have deposited 3 BTC and won 1.7 BTC. My total balance was more than 4,7 BTC. They closed my balance, returned deposit and confiscated winnings. What was funny, the reason was multi-accounting. It is bullshit, I have only one account. What I am afraid of, I used mobile phone and mobile internet for placing bets. I afraid that it is possible, that for many mobile internet users could be the same ip address .
What are you afraid of if you didn't cheat ? It's ironic how we're talking about cheating when sportsbet.io themselves are the biggest cheaters in the gambling industry.
Please open a new scam accusation against them with all the relevant proofs and we should take it from there.

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June 14, 2017, 12:14:20 AM
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All of these KYC requirements are just some lame excuses to refuse paying winners in every online casino and sports betting platform.

If you really are obligated by regulations to ask for KYC then you should ask for documents when a player is trying to obtain a deposit

Address in the first place, but I guess it wont matter if someone even tries to deposit $10M you'll gladly accept it since you have no intentions

Of giving it back, with Bitcoin if anyone asked for KYC just know it's all bullshit and avoid depositing a buck there. OP should receive whatever

He has won in full, otherwise paying him back his initial deposit doesn't work.
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June 14, 2017, 01:36:16 PM
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All of these KYC requirements are just some lame excuses to refuse paying winners in every online casino and sports betting platform.
lol we're talking about the criminal casinos here : sportsbet.io/bitcasino.io/vaegascasino.io they're cheating the gambling scene since a long time.They are only able to scam the money due to never ending spawning of idiots who still chose to play money and lose on those websites.Who cares anyway ? DT members have left the warnings anyway.

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September 30, 2017, 10:37:51 AM
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Why your withdrawal fee is so low? Its gonna take forever to wait just for 1 confirmation!
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