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April 10, 2017, 06:17:44 AM
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Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366
Amount Scammed: 21.5 BTC
Payment Method: Bitcoin

Hi,

I made a deposit of 15 BTC to sportsbet.io and managed to win another 6.5 BTC on top of it for a total of 21.5 BTC. However, when I tried to withdraw I recieved a message that my account was under a temporary security review and to try again in 12 hours. After 12 hours I attempted to withdraw again and was told I must provide KYC documents in order to get my withdrawal! I am bitcoin only player and as you all should know there is no reason for them to request KYC apart from delaying my withdrawal.

So I sent KYC documents to them and they then told me they were not going to send my withdrawal anyway! they closed my account and quoted a bunch of terms and conditions that did not apply to me in any way.

You can view the emails and posts I've already made below:


    Emails:
        http://i.imgur.com/SDxF3af.jpg
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    Posts in bitcointalk thread:

WARNING

I Just had 21.5 BTC stolen from me by sportsbet.io!
First of all they asked me for KYC which I do not understand because I am a Bitcoin player, and then when I send it they say they are not sending my money anyway a quoted a bunch of terms and conditions that did not apply to me in any way!

http://imgur.com/SDxF3af.jpg
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As you can see the sportsbet rep account has been online and ignored my message. They have no reason for why they closed my account, took my 21.5 BTC or asked for KYC so they will not respond. They have also not replied to my emails. the equivalent of $25k USD taken with no explanation. Disgusting.


Regarding ExcessTest,

Our Security department has found the username of this player and we were able to check this claim.

This account has been closed due to fraudulent activity, providing false information and breach of our Terms & Conditions.

To respect the privacy of the player, we will not disclose the exact details and transactions that are linked to this account.

The player always has the right to file a complaint at AskGamblers.com, who will then start an objective investigation to ensure that the player gets a fair trial.

Cheers,
sportsbet.io

I give you permission to disclose any details/transactions linked to my account except those which would reveal my personal information such as name, address.

No, I cannot do that as sportsbet.io is not listed on askgamblers.

Again rep has been online and ignored my post.

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April 10, 2017, 08:34:39 AM
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Another unlicensed/scam book, stealing from its customers.  Why anyone would deposit here is a mystery to me. sportsbet.io the OP has given  you permission to release relevant details of his "fraudulent" activities that warranted you stealing his deposit and winnings.

Please do, otherwise refund him immediately. 
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April 10, 2017, 08:43:50 AM
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I will personally help you with this.
I doubted the site is shady since day 1 and so did every gambling site scam buster out there.
It's crazy how they suddenly decide to ask for KYC when a high bitcoin amount is involved.So basically they follow this measure "If you win on your website,we could think you have been upto something shady and we won't allow you to beat the house".

Things we will be doing :-
I've tagged the account.
I've posted a warning to not play on this  website on their main thread.
Let's see if the respond,otherwise we could proceed by giving them a feedback from the DT.

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April 10, 2017, 09:52:39 AM
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I have a couple questions:

When they requested your documents, did you send them your real information?

You say you deposited 15 BTC into the site, placed some bet and had 6.5BTC profit and initiated a withdrawl. Why did you deposit so much in the first place only to make a few BTC profit and cash out? Some casinos/sportsbooks have terms that require you to rollover the deposit 1x. However thats not what term they are saying you broke.

In any event, askgamblers as sportsbet.io has suggested you use is a good source to mediate issues with online casinos but in this case I don't see that it is. I have used them in the past to resolve issues with stalling of payment by an online casino and once they got the complaint they quickly resolved it.

Here's why I think its a joke they suggested it:

I can't even locate a profile on the askgamblers site for sportsbet.io

They do have them for their sister sites: bitcasino.io and vegascasino.io but as I'm going to get to next theres an issue there.

Last year in December, a user had an issue over 1.5btc being confiscated and while that player may have broke terms or could be innocent. The issue is bitcasino did not provide any proof in the matter to the askgamblers team to mediate. Simply put they ignored the complaint after a couple short replys and then askgamblers posted this :

Unfortunately, BitCasino.io didn't provide the necessary information to AskGamblers Complaints Team so that the complaint could be adequately reviewed and decided. Obviously, we have no other option but to close the complaint as Unresolved and recommend a player to forward their issue directly in front of the relevant regulatory body responsible for BitCasino.io. As soon as AskGamblers Complaints Team is being notified about the regulator's final decision on the case, we will comply and mark this complaint accordingly.


In order for askgamblers to be a mediator sportsbet.io would have to show the proof ExcessTest in some way was fraudulent. Otherwise its useless. And the only other alternative would be to go to the casinos regulatory body of Curacao to file a complaint.

But thats pretty useless, they are a joke of a license and a complaint there would not do any good.

Now with all that said, I have only used sportsbet.io one time and I made a fairly large bet on the Super Bowl. The bet won it was instantly credited to my account when the game went final and I made the withdrawl and was paid immediately. Now, it was nowhere near 21BTC which as their terms suggest triggers the KYC protocol. I've also never had any issues being paid in 2.5 years playing on bitcasino.io Again, I've never won anything big but have had a few withdrawls 2-3k paid out instantly.

We don't know both sides and unless sportsbet.io is willing to provide the evidence against this player but confiscating 21.5 BTC is a pretty serious deal. I would hope they could provide more details to someone trusted and make a resolution.

It very well could be they are falling from grace and going rogue. Unless they provide the evidence against the OP then we won't know and have to assume the worst.

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April 10, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
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This is looking real bad for them, more and more topics are coming up!

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April 10, 2017, 01:54:41 PM
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I will personally help you with this.
I doubted the site is shady since day 1 and so did every gambling site scam buster out there.
It's crazy how they suddenly decide to ask for KYC when a high bitcoin amount is involved.So basically they follow this measure "If you win on your website,we could think you have been upto something shady and we won't allow you to beat the house".

Things we will be doing :-
I've tagged the account.
I've posted a warning to not play on this  website on their main thread.
Let's see if the respond,otherwise we could proceed by giving them a feedback from the DT.

Also did gave the account red tag,there were a scam accusations way back 2016 I think this is the end of that gaming site it's such a huge amount to be ignored DT should give them red tag too and Op can also request writers to write about this issue to warn other gamers.


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It was so easy to avoid: Warning! SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io since July 2016!

What lead you to play at sportsbet.io, how did you get aware of them?

Curacao civil code say that they have to tell you why they confiscated your money. Breach of their Terms & Conditions is not enough.

Furthermore, please note that if a paragraph of their T&C is not in accordance with Curacao civil code, this part is not valid. Another reason why they have to tell you the exact breach of their T&C.

You could sue them, Curacao has a justice system with court and police.

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April 10, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
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Withholding money and asking for verification without proper ground seems to be a new trend with these shady websites. I've seen this happen with several gambling websites and exchanges. They absolutely have no right to withhold your money. They may withhold the winnings depending on the T&C but not your own money.

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April 10, 2017, 09:13:46 PM
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Withholding money and asking for verification without proper ground seems to be a new trend with these shady websites. I've seen this happen with several gambling websites and exchanges. They absolutely have no right to withhold your money. They may withhold the winnings depending on the T&C but not your own money.

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Gave this guy a red tag also to warn my friends not to deal with this site,the admin is online all the time but chooses to ignore all the post of the complainants,I guess this is the end of his business and might close his thread and set up another one.


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April 11, 2017, 06:32:29 AM
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This is really sad. I have been playing on the site for long and will stop on doing so. This is the case of bitcoin sites doing what they feel is right because of no legal consequences. I hope they get boycotted.
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April 11, 2017, 09:23:56 AM
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I have just started playing there from a month and never had any problem, but of course I have only played with small amounts up to 0.02 btc my biggest deposit. I have withdrawn and it was fast ,within minutes. It will be really sad if the accused gambling house will not be here to give their explanation.

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April 11, 2017, 01:35:37 PM
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This is really sad. I have been playing on the site for long and will stop on doing so. This is the case of bitcoin sites doing what they feel is right because of no legal consequences. I hope they get boycotted.
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April 11, 2017, 02:07:15 PM
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I have just started playing there from a month and never had any problem, but of course I have only played with small amounts up to 0.02 btc my biggest deposit. I have withdrawn and it was fast ,within minutes. It will be really sad if the accused gambling house will not be here to give their explanation.

they really meant to scam site is on and off and the administrator refuse to answer the allegations even if his thread are full of comments about this issue,he might lock the thread,close the site then start another one,which is likely to happen.

       
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April 11, 2017, 03:55:39 PM
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The OP has posted very little proof that indeed the casino scammed him. He's been on several times and hasn't posted.

Yet you all have already become the executioners in assuming sportsbet.io has indeed scammed this guy. I find it very unlikely that they would risk their reputation over 20BTC, That is pocket change to this group. There is one guy at their casino that bets that much every hand of blackjack.

There was another guy a couple months back that won a massive 200 some bitcoins from their group and he didn't come here yelling scam. They paid him and he even come here and give massive 12.5BTC giveaway.

The OP could just be pulling wool over all your eyes to get a witch hunt against the sportsbook when in fact he could have indeed broken their terms by providing false information and identification.

After more thinking about it and his silence. I'm not buying it.

Unless he can prove otherwise that he in fact uploaded legitimate IDs and utility bills and he didnt break any other term then he is guilty until proven innocent just like you all have given guilt to sportsbet without knowing facts.

Also its very suspicious he deposits 15btc only to make a few btc profit and leave? 

He has some explaining to do before I can believe hes 100% innocent and the casino scammed him.
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April 11, 2017, 04:09:23 PM
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He has some explaining to do before I can believe hes 100% innocent and the casino scammed him.

He doesn't have any explaining to do. He provided enough proof to warrant a response from scambet. They need to give a reason why they won't give him his money. He doesn't have to doxx himself.
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April 11, 2017, 04:27:57 PM
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The OP has posted very little proof that indeed the casino scammed him. He's been on several times and hasn't posted.

Yet you all have already become the executioners in assuming sportsbet.io has indeed scammed this guy. I find it very unlikely that they would risk their reputation over 20BTC, That is pocket change to this group. There is one guy at their casino that bets that much every hand of blackjack.

There was another guy a couple months back that won a massive 200 some bitcoins from their group and he didn't come here yelling scam. They paid him and he even come here and give massive 12.5BTC giveaway.

The OP could just be pulling wool over all your eyes to get a witch hunt against the sportsbook when in fact he could have indeed broken their terms by providing false information and identification.

After more thinking about it and his silence. I'm not buying it.

Unless he can prove otherwise that he in fact uploaded legitimate IDs and utility bills and he didnt break any other term then he is guilty until proven innocent just like you all have given guilt to sportsbet without knowing facts.

Also its very suspicious he deposits 15btc only to make a few btc profit and leave? 

He has some explaining to do before I can believe hes 100% innocent and the casino scammed him.

UP !!! Well said!

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April 11, 2017, 04:52:05 PM
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The OP has posted very little proof that indeed the casino scammed him. He's been on several times and hasn't posted.

Yet you all have already become the executioners in assuming sportsbet.io has indeed scammed this guy. I find it very unlikely that they would risk their reputation over 20BTC, That is pocket change to this group. There is one guy at their casino that bets that much every hand of blackjack.

There was another guy a couple months back that won a massive 200 some bitcoins from their group and he didn't come here yelling scam. They paid him and he even come here and give massive 12.5BTC giveaway.

The OP could just be pulling wool over all your eyes to get a witch hunt against the sportsbook when in fact he could have indeed broken their terms by providing false information and identification.

After more thinking about it and his silence. I'm not buying it.

Unless he can prove otherwise that he in fact uploaded legitimate IDs and utility bills and he didnt break any other term then he is guilty until proven innocent just like you all have given guilt to sportsbet without knowing facts.

Also its very suspicious he deposits 15btc only to make a few btc profit and leave? 

He has some explaining to do before I can believe hes 100% innocent and the casino scammed him.

UP !!! Well said!

But even if he provided fake information, does that give sportsbet.io the right to take his initial deposit aswell? Isn't that stealing? I could be wrong though, I don't know the laws and rules about these issues completely, although i have some general knowledge about it.

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April 11, 2017, 05:18:44 PM
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The OP has posted very little proof that indeed the casino scammed him. He's been on several times and hasn't posted.
Sportsbet.io logged in several times then and haven't bothered to post any comments here.Your call on that ? Shiller.

That is pocket change to this group. There is one guy at their casino that bets that much every hand of blackjack.
What does that prove ? Why are you shilling for them ? Are you associated with the entire btcagency scam ? You should be tagged too.

There was another guy a couple months back that won a massive 200 some bitcoins from their group and he didn't come here yelling scam. They paid him and he even come here and give massive 12.5BTC giveaway.
Bla Bla bla.

The OP could just be pulling wool over all your eyes to get a witch hunt against the sportsbook when in fact he could have indeed broken their terms by providing false information and identification.
How much did sportsbet.io pay you to post the comments here ?

Unless he can prove otherwise that he in fact uploaded legitimate IDs and utility bills and he didnt break any other term then he is guilty until proven innocent just like you all have given guilt to sportsbet without knowing facts.
Stop Shilling.I'd reply to all your comments with more logic if you stop walking with their dick in your ass.

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April 11, 2017, 05:19:22 PM
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The OP has posted very little proof that indeed the casino scammed him. He's been on several times and hasn't posted.

Yet you all have already become the executioners in assuming sportsbet.io has indeed scammed this guy. I find it very unlikely that they would risk their reputation over 20BTC, That is pocket change to this group. There is one guy at their casino that bets that much every hand of blackjack.

There was another guy a couple months back that won a massive 200 some bitcoins from their group and he didn't come here yelling scam. They paid him and he even come here and give massive 12.5BTC giveaway.

The OP could just be pulling wool over all your eyes to get a witch hunt against the sportsbook when in fact he could have indeed broken their terms by providing false information and identification.

After more thinking about it and his silence. I'm not buying it.

Unless he can prove otherwise that he in fact uploaded legitimate IDs and utility bills and he didnt break any other term then he is guilty until proven innocent just like you all have given guilt to sportsbet without knowing facts.

Also its very suspicious he deposits 15btc only to make a few btc profit and leave?  

He has some explaining to do before I can believe hes 100% innocent and the casino scammed him.


Fortunately the OP owes you nothing. They don't need to convince you in their attempt to recover the stolen funds from sportsbet.io

Who are you again??

How much they deposit, play with, withdraw or how they choose to spend their time on the forum is really none of your business.

Your post looks to me, like a pathetic attempt to obfuscate the fact that sportsbet.io are a bunch of scamming criminals, and are keeping funds that don't belong to them.

The burden of proof is on sportsbet.io, It is up to them to show proof that the OP scammed them or attempted to do so.

As far as I can tell they haven't done so, despite the OP giving them permission to reveal all.

You don't think it's weird that they haven't responded to this thread, but you see it fit to attack the victim?

I think you should direct your many questions to sportsbet.io if you need any more clarification.

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