MoneyPot & Investors

[JackpotRacer]

These are the selective quotes that I'm talking about.  

In order to make Moneypot what it is going to be, CC needs access.  It's been explained to you in other short reasons why as well.

I don't shy away from answering questions because of how 'tough' they are.  I have told you numerous times I'll answer all questions to you in PM and invited you to do so almost every chance I had.

I try not to respond to you because you constantly attack us and are unwilling to have a civil discussion or argument.

Yes, myself and CC could potentially cheat if we wanted to.  It would show up in the logs and we'd be outed and the other partners would probably press charges on us if we did, but yes it is possible.

I'm getting tired of your insinuations.  For the past few months, my hope was for the investment to be closer to expected equity than it is or was.  

We stand to lose more when players win than most people think.  We do not make enough in commission to make up for the losses that we have sustained being involved in the bankroll.

I told you a few times not to PM me and we can and should discuss all in public and you can show that MP is Transparent as all investors would like to see that MP is Transparent. but for this you would need to start to answer many open questions

here your PM and I will publish each PM of yours so please stop PMing me

Please realize there is a difference between suspicions of brand new created accounts re-iterating what you have repeatedly said and a member expressing his own opinion.

You said you don't want to be called a troll but you keep ignoring logic and sensibility.

I am 100% convinced you are trying to attack us by any means necessary even if it means relentlessly bending the truth.  

We don't mind users having an opinion.  It's their right.  We just don't want baseless comments and twisting of words.

I am here to have a long discussion and clear up your concerns.  

I don't have a problem with that.  You are so much better off focusing your energy on re-building your site than to repeatedly write libelous comments.

What's it going to take for you to stop?

We stand to lose more when players win than most people think.  We do not make enough in commission to make up for the losses that we have sustained being involved in the bankroll.

why not show us the numbers cause numbers are convincing and people dont need to think wrong

and that you are involved in the BR is on your own risk as any other investor with one difference that the investors are not partner of MP and cant enjoy the % you earn and that is ok cause it is your business and you should earn but you shouldnt be involved in the BR and you would be fine earning wise

I did not give you permission to post that.

yes you gave cause I told you a few times do not PM me and post all in public

remember it

[Pseudo-Random]

I never understood how moneypot worked or how they could even call their investment an investment. It's freaking loses money. How ? How can something designed mathematically to create profit create loss? All those casinos would have to have bn losing badly. Moneypot is a nice App and it is clever how it works but the accounts get hacked easily it seems. Also the investment is not an investment and basically makes MP look ridiculous. Since the inbesmtent was the entire idea behind it. If people are.losong money something is wrong. The sky will be blue tomorrow it doesn't matter what you say the fact is the sky will be blue tomorrow . Just like it is fact that a casino with a house edge creates profits not loses them.

What is clearly understood, however, and examplified multiple times in the above post from this simian dudebro, is that as Einstein famously stated, "Very few things are infinite - but chief among them being human stupidity"

-> "..the accounts get <hacked> easily it seems - [this somehow affects the bankroll]" <-

Of course any investment carries some risk otherwise it wouldn't be an investment

[ranlo]

I never understood how moneypot worked or how they could even call their investment an investment. It's freaking loses money. How ? How can something designed mathematically to create profit create loss? All those casinos would have to have bn losing badly. Moneypot is a nice App and it is clever how it works but the accounts get hacked easily it seems. Also the investment is not an investment and basically makes MP look ridiculous. Since the inbesmtent was the entire idea behind it. If people are.losong money something is wrong. The sky will be blue tomorrow it doesn't matter what you say the fact is the sky will be blue tomorrow . Just like it is fact that a casino with a house edge creates profits not loses them.

What is clearly understood, however, and examplified multiple times in the above post from this simian dudebro, is that as Einstein famously stated, "Very few things are infinite - but chief among them being human stupidity"

-> "..the accounts get <hacked> easily it seems - [this somehow affects the bankroll]" <-

Of course any investment carries some risk otherwise it wouldn't be an investment

Technically, even not investing in things is risky. You DEPOSIT money to a bank and you're trusting the FDIC to pay out if it tanks. Which means you're relying on the govt. Look at Greece, Mexico, Zimbabwe (insert other countries whose systems have failed in the past here). If you're holding fiat, like USD, it's the same thing. People usually overlook that fact but any "value" you supposedly have is virtual. 85% of USD doesn't exist -- people just think it does so we play this virtual game where it does.

(Not trying to detract from your statement, just adding in that people are risking far more than they realize. The only things that have true value are physical, tangible assets, like property, though we could argue that those are risky both economically and governmentally as well)

[enquirer]

Where can we see Moneypot stats, like bets/wagered/profits over time? This is required to judge whether the game is rigged against investors or not.

[JackpotRacer]

Where can we see Moneypot stats, like bets/wagered/profits over time? This is required to judge whether the game is rigged against investors or not.

it looks like this right now

Bankroll:    330,009,111 bits
Wagered: 99,003,293,296 bits
Investor Profit:    -91,198,060 bits
Bets:  1,170,957,716

and you can see it here
https://www.moneypot.com

Congrats to an old customer of ours @jseonline

how would you see if it is rigged?

edit
please check this thread in case you can tell us if it is rigged and how! ( Moneypot owners are deleting many posts they dont like)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1994708.0

[Dogedigital]

Where can we see Moneypot stats, like bets/wagered/profits over time? This is required to judge whether the game is rigged against investors or not.

it looks like this right now

Bankroll:    330,009,111 bits
Wagered: 99,003,293,296 bits
Investor Profit:    -91,198,060 bits
Bets:  1,170,957,716

and you can see it here
https://www.moneypot.com

Congrats to an old customer of ours @jseonline

how would you see if it is rigged?

edit
please check this thread in case you can tell us if it is rigged and how! ( Moneypot owners are deleting many posts they dont like)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1994708.0

Stop with the lies and misinformation JPR.

We have only deleted YOUR posts and only ones that are full of misinformation or lies.

How would you see if it is rigged?  What are you even talking about?  People are more than welcome to look into players if they want.  The bets can be looked up by moneypot.com/bets/insertbet#here and players can be looked up by moneypot.com/users/insertusernamehere

Stop trying to attack us.  MOVE ON.

[JackpotRacer]

Where can we see Moneypot stats, like bets/wagered/profits over time? This is required to judge whether the game is rigged against investors or not.

it looks like this right now

Bankroll:    330,009,111 bits
Wagered: 99,003,293,296 bits
Investor Profit:    -91,198,060 bits
Bets:  1,170,957,716

and you can see it here
https://www.moneypot.com

Congrats to an old customer of ours @jseonline

how would you see if it is rigged?

edit
please check this thread in case you can tell us if it is rigged and how! ( Moneypot owners are deleting many posts they dont like)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1994708.0

Stop with the lies and misinformation JPR.

We have only deleted YOUR posts and only ones that are full of misinformation or lies.

How would you see if it is rigged?  What are you even talking about?  People are more than welcome to look into players if they want.  The bets can be looked up by moneypot.com/bets/insertbet#here and players can be looked up by moneypot.com/users/insertusernamehere

Stop trying to attack us.  MOVE ON.

I just explained to the poster where he can see the info he is looking for and you are shouting "lies" LEL the stats are telling us all and I ask you again what are you trying to hide from Investors?

and is it a lie that you are deleting many postings? check your delete stats

start to be TRANSPARENT and start to full fill your promises

[Dogedigital]

Where can we see Moneypot stats, like bets/wagered/profits over time? This is required to judge whether the game is rigged against investors or not.

it looks like this right now

Bankroll:    330,009,111 bits
Wagered: 99,003,293,296 bits
Investor Profit:    -91,198,060 bits
Bets:  1,170,957,716

and you can see it here
https://www.moneypot.com

Congrats to an old customer of ours @jseonline

how would you see if it is rigged?

edit
please check this thread in case you can tell us if it is rigged and how! ( Moneypot owners are deleting many posts they dont like)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1994708.0

Stop with the lies and misinformation JPR.

We have only deleted YOUR posts and only ones that are full of misinformation or lies.

How would you see if it is rigged?  What are you even talking about?  People are more than welcome to look into players if they want.  The bets can be looked up by moneypot.com/bets/insertbet#here and players can be looked up by moneypot.com/users/insertusernamehere

Stop trying to attack us.  MOVE ON.

I just explained to the poster where he can see the info he is looking for and you are shouting "lies" LEL the stats are telling us all and I ask you again what are you trying to hide from Investors?

and is it a lie that you are deleting many postings? check your delete stats

start to be TRANSPARENT and start to full fill your promises

These are the games you play that I am talking about.

The statistics are fine.  We don't hide the statistics and we encourage those interested to visit eeeth.com/mpstats to see a more detailed graph.

I deleted YOUR posts when they include attacks and don't add to the conversation.  We have never deleted anyone else's despite you trying to lead people to believe otherwise.

The problem is quite clearly the bolded part which you intentionally created to start FUD.

[JackpotRacer]

Where can we see Moneypot stats, like bets/wagered/profits over time? This is required to judge whether the game is rigged against investors or not.

it looks like this right now

Bankroll:    330,009,111 bits
Wagered: 99,003,293,296 bits
Investor Profit:    -91,198,060 bits
Bets:  1,170,957,716

and you can see it here
https://www.moneypot.com

Congrats to an old customer of ours @jseonline

how would you see if it is rigged?

edit
please check this thread in case you can tell us if it is rigged and how! ( Moneypot owners are deleting many posts they dont like)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1994708.0

Stop with the lies and misinformation JPR.

We have only deleted YOUR posts and only ones that are full of misinformation or lies.

How would you see if it is rigged?  What are you even talking about?  People are more than welcome to look into players if they want.  The bets can be looked up by moneypot.com/bets/insertbet#here and players can be looked up by moneypot.com/users/insertusernamehere

Stop trying to attack us.  MOVE ON.

I just explained to the poster where he can see the info he is looking for and you are shouting "lies" LEL the stats are telling us all and I ask you again what are you trying to hide from Investors?

and is it a lie that you are deleting many postings? check your delete stats

start to be TRANSPARENT and start to full fill your promises

These are the games you play that I am talking about.

The statistics are fine.  We don't hide the statistics and we encourage those interested to visit eeeth.com/mpstats to see a more detailed graph.

I deleted YOUR posts when they include attacks and don't add to the conversation.  We have never deleted anyone else's despite you trying to lead people to believe otherwise.

The problem is quite clearly the bolded part which you intentionally created to start FUD.

your lies have short legs and you are welcome to delete more of my postings because they all come back like a boomerang

but as you dont read all my postings I copy an important part in here cause you are proud to mention eeeth

my posting
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1994708.msg20152369#msg20152369

and there is written and for the poster @enquirer and his question to add from my side regarding eeeth

 a trusted user posted and then deleted. but why did he post this? to delete it?  he was warning you long ago and you guys as always didnt listen to him

"............................................................................... .................
That said, I'd give MoneyPot a bit of slack. Just looking at http://eeeth.com/mpstats/ there clearly seems to be something wrong, I wouldn't blame them for being on a heightened state of alert (which is a good thing, as they need to safe guard investors money). "

[Mike Mayor]

Lol I got a pm from moneypot for telling the truth that they suck and lost money for investors. Bow the hell do you lose money running a casino ? Rather funny how they rather pm you instead of fixing the problem. The idiot actually told me I was posting just to increase my post count. Ya .... Sure..... Let's go with that shall we.

Moneypot never made sense the investment constantly lost money. I withdrew long ago just to watch it all burn at it did. Also I know some people have had wierdoes things happen like withdrawing but it went to another address not there's. Hacker ? Who knows ?

I know that that has not happened elsewhere so. Man if you can't take flak get out of the game.

[Dogedigital]

Lol I got a pm from moneypot for telling the truth that they suck and lost money for investors. Bow the hell do you lose money running a casino ? Rather funny how they rather pm you instead of fixing the problem. The idiot actually told me I was posting just to increase my post count. Ya .... Sure..... Let's go with that shall we.

Moneypot never made sense the investment constantly lost money. I withdrew long ago just to watch it all burn at it did. Also I know some people have had wierdoes things happen like withdrawing but it went to another address not there's. Hacker ? Who knows ?

I know that that has not happened elsewhere so. Man if you can't take flak get out of the game.

I PM a lot of people to try and straighten facts and answer their questions.  I can't remember if I PM'd you, but it's definitely possible.

While the investment section isn't as high as we'd like, overall, Moneypot has made money on whole.  No disrespect intended whatsoever to Bustabit, but if they had investors and charged 25% of house edge (MP gave away 50%), investors would have lost there too (and I think Ryan is as straight as they come).

Not once did we send a withdrawal to a wrong address.  Our system is automated.  Can you point me in the direction of the person making that claim?

[JackpotRacer]

Lol I got a pm from moneypot for telling the truth that they suck and lost money for investors. Bow the hell do you lose money running a casino ? Rather funny how they rather pm you instead of fixing the problem. The idiot actually told me I was posting just to increase my post count. Ya .... Sure..... Let's go with that shall we.

Moneypot never made sense the investment constantly lost money. I withdrew long ago just to watch it all burn at it did. Also I know some people have had wierdoes things happen like withdrawing but it went to another address not there's. Hacker ? Who knows ?

I know that that has not happened elsewhere so. Man if you can't take flak get out of the game.

clap clap clap Mike Mayor for not giving in to MP's Dictator ship behavior

that is exactly what Moneypot/Dictator ship is doing! they always PM the users who are posting something negative about MP to convince him to delete his posting. therefore Dogedigital is not quoting when he is answering because he thinks he is smart but he is not because he shows that he tries to cheat and manipulate other users.

he quoted you now because after the PM and your posting he knows you will not delete it

just check how long AcoinL aka Rango aka ......... aka ...... or Laremar aka Ranlo or CrazyCraig didnt answer for MP? I need to ask if they are still partner or Dogedigital is sole owner now?

[lorylore]

The fire does not seem to go away even after so many months. Anyway i used to be a Moneypot investors. Have been there even before the takeover. In justice, Moneypot has been doing extremely well for the start. I never see any casino able to double my investment and Moneypot did that within a year. It was so successful that i remember the bankroll hit a record high of 1.2k BTC investment. However, things just go down from there. When i realise that there is no profit and then suddenly there is a huge payout, i still think it is normal. However, I am not convince when the huge payout happens one after another one. I am totally not good in finding out what happen but it is the same answers that is repeated over and over again that i start to smell things are not right that i withdraw. My 200% profit drop to 140% before i withdraw all. I invest in betking before spreading out to cryto and i did not regret at all.

[JackpotRacer]

The fire does not seem to go away even after so many months. Anyway i used to be a Moneypot investors. Have been there even before the takeover. In justice, Moneypot has been doing extremely well for the start. I never see any casino able to double my investment and Moneypot did that within a year. It was so successful that i remember the bankroll hit a record high of 1.2k BTC investment. However, things just go down from there. When i realise that there is no profit and then suddenly there is a huge payout, i still think it is normal. However, I am not convince when the huge payout happens one after another one. I am totally not good in finding out what happen but it is the same answers that is repeated over and over again that i start to smell things are not right that i withdraw. My 200% profit drop to 140% before i withdraw all. I invest in betking before spreading out to cryto and i did not regret at all.

finally another investor is posting his straight forward opinion. thank you for that!

IMO you will get soon a PM from Dogedigital

I agree that Moneypot was and is a great business idea but it looks it is in the wrong hands (sadly)

[CrazyCraig]

finally another investor is posting his straight forward opinion. thank you for that!

IMO you will get soon a PM from Dogedigital

I agree that Moneypot was and is a great business idea but it looks it is in the wrong hands (sadly)

What do you want? What is the point for all of this? It has been going on months and months. Lets put an end to it mutually and work a way to go forward.

[phr0stbyt3]

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

[michkima]

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

What you say is one of the worse thing you can assume in any investment. There is no such thing as "guaranteed profits" that would be stupid. There is always a risk involved in every investment. Which means there is a chance you could lose money or earn some. The higher the risk, the higher the chances of profiting. Nothing guaranteed.

[lorylore]

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

When was investment a guarantee profit? No matter what investment you make, whether in the real life or in btc world, there is risk. It is just that the risk here is bigger but at the same time the reward is also bigger. In my country, i can only find investment vehicles with around 5% of dividend, profit etc. I also have invest in many other btc sites and you will be surprised that no all are making money. And even those who has shown profits consistently, if you invest at the wrong time, you will also loss. The key is just to wait it out and profit will come.

[JackpotRacer]

finally another investor is posting his straight forward opinion. thank you for that!

IMO you will get soon a PM from Dogedigital

I agree that Moneypot was and is a great business idea but it looks it is in the wrong hands (sadly)

What do you want? What is the point for all of this? It has been going on months and months. Lets put an end to it mutually and work a way to go forward.

nice to see you are still alive and caring about Moneypot

What I want? I would like to see actually nothing special but
- that Moneypot will be transparent towards Investors and Players
- that Moneypot will keep promises and compensating Investors as promised and not "Soon" (means never or in in a few years in
  case MP is still up and running)
- respect Investors and Players
- all Moneypot owners should only have 1 nick name and published so it will be transparent ( not like Rango, aka MattN, aka
  Blacksheep etc
- accepting critiques because critiques good or bad is always healthy
- publish any high winner investigation and outcome

I know and I am aware that the MP owners can do what they want because it is their business and their money they even can commit suicide

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

there will never be a guarantee for Profit but if all goes clean and without a cheat there is no better investment than in a casino Bank Roll! and only a question of time

I agree with you that with Moneypot it is very strange that the MP owners make money and no one else and they really dont care about Investors and Players and even accepting Rain from Players (what a shame)

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

.....................................................................The key is just to wait it out and profit will come.

Exactly! but then again the Owners need to be honest and not trying to cheat

[traderethereum]

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

When was investment a guarantee profit? No matter what investment you make, whether in the real life or in btc world, there is risk. It is just that the risk here is bigger but at the same time the reward is also bigger. In my country, i can only find investment vehicles with around 5% of dividend, profit etc. I also have invest in many other btc sites and you will be surprised that no all are making money. And even those who has shown profits consistently, if you invest at the wrong time, you will also loss. The key is just to wait it out and profit will come.

i think its no pain, no gain. people is attracted in investment because of the profit and they deposit some money and then they are hope for getting profit in some period of time. but what they found is many of the investment is scam but some of them is true and they really make money. if somehow they can really make money, then i think they are lucky in investment and they can continue for next investment.