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April 25, 2013, 02:55:22 AM |
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I've played the market 3 times and won all 3... $104 --> $235 $88 --> $100 $104 --> $135
The sell at $135 was actually good because it dropped down to $120 for a few days after that. I just never bought back in (thought it was gonna go down further), and now it's shot back up to $155.
In the words of Lebron James, what should I do?
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April 25, 2013, 03:04:05 AM |
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No, buy in closer to the $130's or below if it flash crashes. I don't think we are going to hit $200 for a little while.
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April 25, 2013, 03:16:57 AM |
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Dollar Cost Averaging usually works for me. If you want to try to time valleys, then great, but don't count on always being right. I never put all my money in at one time.
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Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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April 25, 2013, 03:18:19 AM |
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I've played the market 3 times and won all 3... $104 --> $235 $88 --> $100 $104 --> $135
The sell at $135 was actually good because it dropped down to $120 for a few days after that. I just never bought back in (thought it was gonna go down further), and now it's shot back up to $155.
In the words of Lebron James, what should I do?
So we'll get to hear some die-hard long-term bullish posts from you for a few days now until you sell again?
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April 25, 2013, 03:26:43 AM |
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No. Wait for $30 lol
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Minor Miner
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April 25, 2013, 03:29:03 AM |
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trading is a zero sum game. What makes you think that you are luckier or smarter than the average bear? The best prop trader on wall street what percentage of his trades does he make money on?
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Dr.Steve
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April 25, 2013, 03:31:48 AM |
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One of my friends is a trader. Personally I don't have the stomach for it.
I just keep buying. (Unfortunately, I never seem to know when to sell.)
But still, at the end of the day, I have a bigger pile and I am not stressed.
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April 25, 2013, 03:35:20 AM |
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Fuck manual trading... if you don't trade with a system you're going to lose. If you're trading with a system, and you don't stick to it, you're going to lose. If you have to trade with a system and you have to stick to it, use a bot. with https://github.com/yrral86/rubybot if I want to sell, I send the bitcoins to the exchange. I will either not trade(price goes down, no usd yet), have a profit in terms of bitcoin (if it goes up and then down), or I get better than the current price for my bitcoins. With my current round, I started it at $125/bitcoin. I'm just using play money right now, but I'm currently short 1.52 bitcoins with a base price of $142. Sure, I'm behind a bit same as you, but my bids are in place at bitcoin-denominated profit points in case it dips. I've got enough I'm holding, so I'm willing to reduce my exposure a bit and add liquidity to the market so that when the dips come I can help soften them.
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April 25, 2013, 03:37:36 AM |
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I'm wondering when to buy as well.
I made a lot of mistakes that cut into my profits, but I still had a small gain. Right now, I'm not sure whether it is better to buy in or wait.
I feel like we'll see a strong dip before it really rises.. but I'm just not sure.
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April 25, 2013, 04:01:57 AM |
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Whoever actually knows wont be telling you on here
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April 25, 2013, 04:02:50 AM Last edit: April 25, 2013, 04:18:09 AM by seleme |
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That's question you should never ask on this forum as you'll always get wannabesmartie smoothie and similar braindead gang with their usual bullshit. The point of their miserable lives is to come on threads like this and scream their shit. If you think the price will go up, then buy. If you don't think it will go up then wait until you do. Neither is something you should pick from nice chunk of childish idiots here. Decide it on yourself or research for assistant of normal, on the ground people who are able to write something that doesn't look like "oh, it's skyrocketing, lol" or "it's gonna crash, see you at 20$" in 99.8% of their gibberish posts. And again - never, never ask... there are loads of morons here who'll post rubbish that can influence your reasoning while being worth nothing, zero, nada, piece of utter crap. It's your money and if you're going to lose it, lose it because you made a mistake, not because some cretin said you to do that. My personal advice would be to trade with a system, not emotion. It's hard as hell to stick with and at moments looks like idiotic thing but in the long run it will probably come more profitable than gambling where it would go with your emotions, unless you're lucky bastard . Look for gloomboo (or whatever he's named) thread, it's very good start.
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April 25, 2013, 04:10:06 AM |
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Well here's what I've been doing (and predicted in a while ago in a thread called "the secret monster wedge").
Basically buy sub-$150 Sell ~$170 if it seems to be reflecting off of it (or reflecting off of a value close to it, sort of like what happened this morning. Since Bitcoin is thinly traded it won't hit values quite as smoothly, retracement can happen at values ~$5 off of the expected point). Buy just above $170 if we break through as we will probably be headed to $200 next after that, though some residue of the $180 resistance from last rally may still be "left over".
So far its been working mildly well.
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April 25, 2013, 04:13:52 AM |
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i would just wait, correction is coming.
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April 25, 2013, 04:22:35 AM |
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correction already happened. y'all are gonna miss the train with that attitude. -===- -===- --arepo
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April 25, 2013, 04:23:45 AM |
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buy in with every dollar you have and quote me in a month.
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April 25, 2013, 04:26:31 AM |
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I've played the market 3 times and won all 3... $104 --> $235 $88 --> $100 $104 --> $135
The sell at $135 was actually good because it dropped down to $120 for a few days after that. I just never bought back in (thought it was gonna go down further), and now it's shot back up to $155.
In the words of Lebron James, what should I do?
"Won" ? Is this a game?
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April 25, 2013, 04:28:39 AM |
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"Won" ? Is this a game?
Yes?
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Dankedan: price seems low, time to sell I think...
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April 25, 2013, 04:29:30 AM |
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"Won" ? Is this a game?
Yes? Agreed.
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April 25, 2013, 05:00:17 AM |
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I believe some individual or small group with millions of dollars is manipulating the market, starting rallies that are so convincing that everyone piles in, believing the climb won't stop until we hit $1 million per bitcoin, then flash crashes so devastating that people sell everything in a panic. The manipulators profit by doing most of their buying early in the rallies, when prices are low, and massive selling at the start of the crashes, while prices are still high.
Their moves are sufficiently random that the only way to accurately predict the tops and bottoms is to be privy to they plans of the manipulators. However, we can expect them to keep doing the things they have been doing. They tend to create 1 or 2 small flash crashes each week, varying in size from 15% to 40%. I also suspect that they will invoke another major crash within the next few months.
Even though I cannot predict the tops and bottoms, I believe it is possible to profit from this artificial volativity by placing limit orders to automatically sell on the way up, and then to re-buy on the crashes.
For example, every time the price goes up 5% you could sell 1% of your holdings. As soon as that sell executes, you place a buy order for more coins at a 15% lower price. When that re-buy executes during a small downturn, you re-place the sell order at the higher price. I currently have 21 sell orders placed between $162 and $222, and 11 buy orders between $109 and $139. Every time a sell/buy pair executes, I gain 15% more bitcoins.
I think it's a safe bet that the price will rise again to $250 or more, suffering several flash crashes on the way, and then crash again to less than $100. My system makes money every time I get out and in, and when we crash back to $100 again, I should have considerably more coins than when I started. Also, by selling into rallies and buying into corrections, I help stabilize the price a bit. If more people would adopt this system, we might foil the manipulation scheme entirely.
Your case is different, since you're starting with fiat. I think I would place buy orders ranging from about $100 to perhaps 10% below the current price. As the price rises, keep adding more buys. When we hit the next flash crash, you will certainly hit some of those buys. Immediately place an order to resell those coins at a 25% profit. When those sells execute, use the proceeds to place buys 15% lower.
Or if that's too much work, you could wait for the next major crash. It could take several months, and there's no way to call the exact bottom. But you could wait until 24 hours after a devastating crash, buy in, then gradually sell as the price starts going up again.
The key is to avoid panic buying when the price is high and panic selling after the price drops!
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