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April 16, 2017, 04:00:43 PM |
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I didn't even hear about this guy until you made the post. If he was truly "the" Bitcoin guy, I'm sure the community would be well aware of it by now.
The MSM spoke about this guy quite a lot recently, but I don't think Nakamoto ever wanted his identity to be revealed. If he's the real creator, he should have some old BTC plans and prove the way he created it or so. He probably only wants to get his 'BTC Creator' status just for the money he wants to earn from it.. wright HAS money he has more than blockstream and miners now
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April 16, 2017, 04:05:42 PM |
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I didn't even hear about this guy until you made the post. If he was truly "the" Bitcoin guy, I'm sure the community would be well aware of it by now.
The MSM spoke about this guy quite a lot recently, but I don't think Nakamoto ever wanted his identity to be revealed. If he's the real creator, he should have some old BTC plans and prove the way he created it or so. He probably only wants to get his 'BTC Creator' status just for the money he wants to earn from it.. wright HAS money he has more than blockstream and miners now There were some ideas that he shouldn't use the Bitcoin he has from initial mining (I think it was around 1 million BTC. Also if he ever wanted to convert that, he'd have to do it in small amounts (less than 1% a time in order to not negatively effect the market).
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April 16, 2017, 04:10:39 PM |
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There were some ideas that he shouldn't use the Bitcoin he has from initial mining (I think it was around 1 million BTC. Also if he ever wanted to convert that, he'd have to do it in small amounts (less than 1% a time in order to not negatively effect the market).
WRIGHT HAS MONEY! http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/13/company-behind-bitcoin-creator-sold-to-private-investors.htmlHe does not need to convert anytiem soon. he has more than blockstream - satoshi or not - he was a miner in early 09 and he has 100s of millions USD at his disposal! Thiink! what better way to hide than private equity. a company owned by a fund owned by a fund owned by a gorup of trusts...
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April 16, 2017, 04:26:10 PM |
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you know what the worst part about argument about "... is or is not Satoshi Nakamoti" is
the worst part is that, this discussion is so dumb and at the same time it has a very simple solution. step one of proving someone is Satoshi is if that someone signs a message (a cryptography proof). it is very simple that it makes me laugh even thinking about people who are still talking about it.
It should be, but wasn't Gavin Andresen tricked somehow when Craig Wright met him. IIRC Wright brought in a "brand new" computer, and supposedly signed something with Satoshi's key. Gavin said he was convinced, then later said he was no longer so sure CW was Satoshi. So it wasn't so simple for Gavin for reasons one can speculate on
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April 16, 2017, 04:27:47 PM |
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It should be, but wasn't Gavin Andresen tricked somehow when Craig Wright met him. IIRC Wright brought in a "brand new" computer, and supposedly signed something with Satoshi's key. Gavin said he was convinced, then later said he was no longer so sure CW was Satoshi. So it wasn't so simple for Gavin for reasons one can speculate on No Gavin did not say he was unsure, he said we should leave wright alone - not the same. Either he was Satoshi, but really wants the world to think he isn’t, so he created an impossible-to-untangle web of truths, half-truths and lies. And ruined his reputation in the process.
http://gavinandresen.ninja/either-or-ignoreAnd from the things I read, gavin said he setup the computer and it was gavin's usb stick - not wrights again - wright HAS money Wright has degrees - he has money and he wants us to ignoire him!
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April 16, 2017, 04:37:37 PM |
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There were some ideas that he shouldn't use the Bitcoin he has from initial mining (I think it was around 1 million BTC. Also if he ever wanted to convert that, he'd have to do it in small amounts (less than 1% a time in order to not negatively effect the market).
WRIGHT HAS MONEY! http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/13/company-behind-bitcoin-creator-sold-to-private-investors.htmlHe does not need to convert anytiem soon. he has more than blockstream - satoshi or not - he was a miner in early 09 and he has 100s of millions USD at his disposal! Thiink! what better way to hide than private equity. a company owned by a fund owned by a fund owned by a gorup of trusts... Thanks, I hadn't seen this link yet... It is good for delocalisation and there would be less of a way to stop it with it being controlled by multiple trusts.
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April 16, 2017, 04:46:17 PM |
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I think you missed out this old story, he was unable to prove himself as satoshi because he is not the real satoshi by any means. He is just a big lier...
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April 16, 2017, 04:48:14 PM |
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I think you missed out this old story, he was unable to prove himself as satoshi because he is not the real satoshi by any means. He is just a big lier...
AND WHY WOULD HE He has money and Betcoin.AG - that is Antigua - the same place as Wright AND his buddy Ayre... Seems you want to have a story .... or are you just against wright... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg14049607#msg14049607seems either way you have an axe to grind? Thanks, I hadn't seen this link yet... It is good for delocalisation and there would be less of a way to stop it with it being controlled by multiple trusts.
exactly. wright has things in seychelles, panama, kenya, isle of mann, malta, uk, signapore... so... it all looks nice and clean... but who has the trust and who is really behind it. and these are the guys wright had running the computers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-09/the-new-money-laundering-sting-come-to-the-u-s-get-arrestedhttps://www.highsecured.com/
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April 17, 2017, 02:24:40 AM Last edit: April 17, 2017, 11:32:37 AM by mr.mister |
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]Sure, Wright could move known Satoshi coins and it would be known that he is satoshi, however the absence of this movement does not disprove that Wright is satoshi.
The only way to truly disprove something is to prove a certain set of circumstances that would make it impossible for this something to be true. So, in order to prove that Wright is not Satoshi, someoen would need to show that it would be impossible that Wright is Satoshi (one example of this would be to show that Wright was in a coma when Satoshi was posting).
I would say that the current evidence shows that it is highly unlikely that Wright is Satosh
The Burden of proof is on Wright since he is the one that came forward to make the claim that he was Satoshi Nakamoto. As others have mentioned in this thread, Craig could have easily proved that he was Satoshi, either by signing Satoshi's public key, or he could have moved some of his bitcoins. He has not done so. So I conclude that he is a liar, and an idiot. I say an idiot, because with his knowledge, how could he not realize that the evidence he presented, would be looked at by computer experts, and then be debunked? Furthermore, he chose to submit his evidence to journalists, who he knew were not that technically sophisticated. I just don't get what he was trying to do, honestly.
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April 17, 2017, 02:30:01 AM |
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again - wright HAS money
NOT HIS MONEY its money from the shell games that all started from lies its all about fake valuations that then used to get VC funding then he moves on and re-valuates another shell based on the last two shells. and so on.. once the shells crack open and realise there is no pearl inside you realise its a shell game of ponzi's and fraud and he will have many investors and governments wanting their chunks of the pie back
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April 17, 2017, 05:59:05 AM |
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Not to mention this sell to a "private" equity group of his tech/patents to an investment guy on an island?
So sad to see smart people get taken for a ride because of their belief in BTC.
These things never end well.
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April 17, 2017, 06:26:17 AM |
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NOT HIS MONEY
its money from the shell games that all started from lies
So you say... but it is not VC and money was NOT recieved from the tax ppl and there are staff ....
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April 17, 2017, 06:30:23 AM |
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There is a one Satoshi Nakamoto which tells he is not the real Satoshi. No ones believe him There is finaly a "real" Satoshi! which tells Im Satoshi No ones believe him ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcoinpricelive.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F09%2F0.jpg&t=665&c=qEQnJA_ayDVV7Q)
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April 17, 2017, 06:54:26 AM |
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again - wright HAS money
NOT HIS MONEY its money from the shell games that all started from lies its all about fake valuations that then used to get VC funding then he moves on and re-valuates another shell based on the last two shells. and so on.. once the shells crack open and realise there is no pearl inside you realise its a shell game of ponzi's and fraud and he will have many investors and governments wanting their chunks of the pie back THIS ^^^ is what it seems like to me. Wright was playing some game and the tax man cometh so he came up with some crazy story to lure in more investors and forestall ending up in the clinker. Allegedly of course ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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April 17, 2017, 07:23:15 AM |
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i have a serious question to gauge your mindset.. are you the kind of person that gets a mortgage and thinks the house is yours free and clear? or are you the person that knows the bank owns the house and as long as you repay the mortgage you are allowed to live in and maintain the house.
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April 17, 2017, 07:36:23 AM |
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i have a serious question to gauge your mindset..
are you the kind of person that gets a mortgage and thinks the house is yours free and clear? or are you the person that knows the bank owns the house and as long as you repay the mortgage you are allowed to live in and maintain the house.
neither. false choice- it is not either one. you have rights to the house and can redeem ownership if you do what you agree in the mortage contract and you generally do not "GET a mortgage" you have less than you need to buy a p;lace and do a deal to buy it over time. So, you do not generally own it, you are saving to own it. i learnt that one way early on - then with ex's (multiple) one tries to stay away from owning.
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