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June 02, 2017, 09:05:16 PM
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Peerbet used to have a no house edge user vs user provable game, not sure if that's still there after all the changes the website has gone through but it sure was nice. The downside was that in order to bet you'd either have to create a raffle or match someone else's.

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June 02, 2017, 10:15:24 PM
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The fairest one are those blockchain based games. Since no one really can predict it. Then there are those games that have only one result for the whole community of gamblers. People can just compare their results and have all the same result since there is only one.

What do you mean by blockchain based games ? You mean bitcoin related games ?
Sports betting is the most fair one i think as other games like Dice etc has house-edge a determining factor for the fairness of the game.
You haven't played blockchain based games ? He actually meant chain based games. Suppose a block XXXX is mined and we have betted on the total sum of the digits available in the block's has will be more than YY.5 or under that. In such games the house cannot cheat at all since they cannot make a impact on the result and neither we can, like in dice we can directly influence the bet result by changing client seed.
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June 03, 2017, 03:40:59 AM
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There is no fair in gambling. It all about take your own risk. And there is a rule and the players must know it. In bitcoin you can gambling online. Every spin might double your money or triple your money . But if you earn a lot then you should stop. Because winning is good in the feeling but if you know your losing, quit as much as you can.
I agree with you . In the gambling game we have the same chance in every game. Nothing is easy and nothing is hard. The winning factor in the game is luck, when you have no luck then we will not be able to take advantage.

That's a whole different argument, in Long run you can't beat the house that's how they make profit. The house will always make profit if you don't win early and big, I have seen some gamblers who won big and got greedy, lost everything again in the same game.
I too think the fairest betting is blockchain based games. It's very complicated to cheat.

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June 03, 2017, 09:12:25 PM
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All gambling games are fair, no? There is a rule, players know about it and play at own risk. Fair deal for both parts, gamblers accept the terms even knowing they can lose on long term. I think there isn't any unfair gambling game...
In theory yes, but at the same time we need to consider different factors, as an example lets suppose that a game is announced as having a 1% edge, however after some test someone discover the game has an actual edge of 2% while the game is the same and nothing has changed a casino doing that will be seen as deceiving their players and such a game will be considered unfair.
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June 04, 2017, 01:16:18 AM
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All gambling games are fair, no? There is a rule, players know about it and play at own risk. Fair deal for both parts, gamblers accept the terms even knowing they can lose on long term. I think there isn't any unfair gambling game...
In theory yes, but at the same time we need to consider different factors, as an example lets suppose that a game is announced as having a 1% edge, however after some test someone discover the game has an actual edge of 2% while the game is the same and nothing has changed a casino doing that will be seen as deceiving their players and such a game will be considered unfair.

These things will happen only when you choose to play on new casinos because they are not interested in long term business but want to make some quick bucks and close the site. If you play on a reputed sites then they never cheat you because they know that this casino business always winners are site owners. That's I never play on any new sites even though they got best promotions to play.
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June 04, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
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All gambling games are fair, no? There is a rule, players know about it and play at own risk. Fair deal for both parts, gamblers accept the terms even knowing they can lose on long term. I think there isn't any unfair gambling game...
In theory yes, but at the same time we need to consider different factors, as an example lets suppose that a game is announced as having a 1% edge, however after some test someone discover the game has an actual edge of 2% while the game is the same and nothing has changed a casino doing that will be seen as deceiving their players and such a game will be considered unfair.

These things will happen only when you choose to play on new casinos because they are not interested in long term business but want to make some quick bucks and close the site. If you play on a reputed sites then they never cheat you because they know that this casino business always winners are site owners. That's I never play on any new sites even though they got best promotions to play.
You are correct and this is why I think we must gamble in casinos that have shown that are reliable, obviously playing in a new casino should not be ruled out, but they must prove to the community that they are here for the long run, and are not trying to just grab as much money as they can as soon as they can and then run away with all the money.
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June 04, 2017, 10:06:25 PM
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i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players. 
I like to bet using Sports Betting because not only is it fair it allows that feeling of being able to win more than if I wanted to bet with another type of Betting style like Casino games (Poker, Texas Hold ‘em, Dice, etc).
The websites that feature Sports Betting are usually the ones that have the most up to date reviews and website updates because with Sports Betting the website can’t stay the same for more than 24 hours depending on what Sports are on there.


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June 04, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
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All gambling games are fair, no? There is a rule, players know about it and play at own risk. Fair deal for both parts, gamblers accept the terms even knowing they can lose on long term. I think there isn't any unfair gambling game...
In theory yes, but at the same time we need to consider different factors, as an example lets suppose that a game is announced as having a 1% edge, however after some test someone discover the game has an actual edge of 2% while the game is the same and nothing has changed a casino doing that will be seen as deceiving their players and such a game will be considered unfair.

These things will happen only when you choose to play on new casinos because they are not interested in long term business but want to make some quick bucks and close the site. If you play on a reputed sites then they never cheat you because they know that this casino business always winners are site owners. That's I never play on any new sites even though they got best promotions to play.
You are correct and this is why I think we must gamble in casinos that have shown that are reliable, obviously playing in a new casino should not be ruled out, but they must prove to the community that they are here for the long run, and are not trying to just grab as much money as they can as soon as they can and then run away with all the money.

i think we can found recommended sites on here and i think its the best for us to playing only in a legit site because we can be save while we are playing gambling in that site and we don't have to be worried about getting scam or another problem. but if we only want to test the new sites, i think we can use the faucet if there are exist so we don't have to send any amount to that sites and we can trying to test and we are know if the sites is reliable or not.



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June 04, 2017, 11:12:33 PM
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All gambling games are fair, no? There is a rule, players know about it and play at own risk. Fair deal for both parts, gamblers accept the terms even knowing they can lose on long term. I think there isn't any unfair gambling game...
In theory yes, but at the same time we need to consider different factors, as an example lets suppose that a game is announced as having a 1% edge, however after some test someone discover the game has an actual edge of 2% while the game is the same and nothing has changed a casino doing that will be seen as deceiving their players and such a game will be considered unfair.

These things will happen only when you choose to play on new casinos because they are not interested in long term business but want to make some quick bucks and close the site. If you play on a reputed sites then they never cheat you because they know that this casino business always winners are site owners. That's I never play on any new sites even though they got best promotions to play.
You are correct and this is why I think we must gamble in casinos that have shown that are reliable, obviously playing in a new casino should not be ruled out, but they must prove to the community that they are here for the long run, and are not trying to just grab as much money as they can as soon as they can and then run away with all the money.

i think we can found recommended sites on here and i think its the best for us to playing only in a legit site because we can be save while we are playing gambling in that site and we don't have to be worried about getting scam or another problem. but if we only want to test the new sites, i think we can use the faucet if there are exist so we don't have to send any amount to that sites and we can trying to test and we are know if the sites is reliable or not.
Never seen that there are some betting site that has faucet but i think they are giving some few test or promo if there is new release betting sites.. the same what you are seeing in games and rounds here in gambling section where you can get almost giveaways and free bets..
But for only sports betting can give me fairest bitcoin betting any sports betting since directbet.eu was gone i am choosen nitrogen instead..
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June 04, 2017, 11:49:17 PM
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Base on your statement, you really don't believe in provably fair. So it would be also useless to explain or defend a provably fair game from a person that has a mindset like you. Imo only people that has been lose and can't accept the defeat that won't ever believe in provably fair. So if you won, it's fair. If you lose, it's not fair.
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Base on your statement, you really don't believe in provably fair. So it would be also useless to explain or defend a provably fair game from a person that has a mindset like you. Imo only people that has been lose and can't accept the defeat that won't ever believe in provably fair. So if you won, it's fair. If you lose, it's not fair.
There are a lot of people who doesn't believe in provably fair just because they have experienced bad things about it. That's what I thought when I saw this post. You should have discipline in your gambling and bankroll management in order to get the best out of your gambling need. Every online casino has different house edges, you just have to choose one.

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June 06, 2017, 02:33:05 PM
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Base on your statement, you really don't believe in provably fair. So it would be also useless to explain or defend a provably fair game from a person that has a mindset like you. Imo only people that has been lose and can't accept the defeat that won't ever believe in provably fair. So if you won, it's fair. If you lose, it's not fair.
There are a lot of people who doesn't believe in provably fair just because they have experienced bad things about it. That's what I thought when I saw this post. You should have discipline in your gambling and bankroll management in order to get the best out of your gambling need. Every online casino has different house edges, you just have to choose one.

Actually probably fair game can be corrupted and give malicious result. If you are familiar on a gambler that able to cheat PD in the past. He used a trick to reveal the result of algorithm before he bet so it means that probably fair game game can be manipulated. But i'm not imposing that dice game are not legit, I'm just stating a possibility on gambling.
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June 06, 2017, 02:44:34 PM
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In my experience played gambling that be fair is bitdouble.io, i played gambling on there the amount of winners
is more much than losing money on there and i think that is fair compared with another gambling   Grin
Although the winnings in gambling games depending on my lucky but bitdouble.io has gave bitcoins
although it is just a little amount of payment.
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June 06, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
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For me it is sports betting, I know its not a game but really that is the most fair and easy to bet on sort of gambling.

Apart from sports betting I believe any dice game that is provably fair is fair to me since I can verify my rolls and always make sure I got the fair result.
But even though we can verify all the bets, do we actually verify ? NO , hence for me sports betting is the best one !
I also believe that sport betting is more fair that other gambling games such as dice. I picked sport betting because there's no way that house will trick you just because they can't dictate the game... It is in your hand if you will win or not because all you need to do is analyze and pick the right team that you think will win.
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June 06, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
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Since we are comparing games because all of them are not fair because there is none but in the midst of worse choices, a bad one becomes the best choice and for that reason will I go for sport betting because in that the winning is not determined by whether the site wants it or not, its determined by the players in the sight of over millions of people watching how things will unfold at the same time. So, to me, its the closest to being fair.
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June 06, 2017, 09:46:56 PM
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Since we are comparing games because all of them are not fair because there is none but in the midst of worse choices, a bad one becomes the best choice and for that reason will I go for sport betting because in that the winning is not determined by whether the site wants it or not, its determined by the players in the sight of over millions of people watching how things will unfold at the same time. So, to me, its the closest to being fair.
I’m not sure what you are talking in your post are you talking about the house edge? Because if that is what you are talking about, I'm sorry to inform you that a game like dice only has 0.5% to 1% edge while most sports bets have a minimum of 3% edge for the house and that is if the market is very liquid, the edge can be enormous in unknown markets.
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