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December 15, 2023, 06:58:14 AM
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I think Victor Osimhen transfer fees with 400 million euro is over values and not any crazy teams want spent much money for signing one player only with that amount they can get more than four players with top qualities level. Harry Kane transfer fees 100 million euro and he has most experienced than Victor Osimhen and Erling Haaland with consistency performance just have values under 100 million euro.
I completely agree with you. Osinhem is indeed a talented player, but the asking price of 400 million is just too much. That amount could practically build an entire mid-tier team from scratch. While it's possible that the Arab owners might have both the audacity and financial resources to go through with this deal, I personally think the probability of that happening is quite slim.
When we consider factors like fame, media attention, and sponsorship deals from brands, I believe players like Haaland or Mbappe would be more deserving of such a hefty investment. The marketability and global appeal of these players seem to overshadow the potential benefits of signing Osinhem at such an exorbitant cost.
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December 15, 2023, 07:48:08 AM
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He can play anywhere including Barcelona but the problem is can Barcelona sign Osimhen?
Seeing the situation that is happening now, I'm not even sure Barcelona can do that and spend more than 100 million just for a player unless with some syaeat such as installments or free transfer players that they have to think again because the salary burden that will be faced will be very large which we know that now they are still hampered by FFP because the cash flow is too over.

It does not mean to demean Barcelona's current condition but reflecting on the previous Raphinha case where Barcelona had problems with Leeds which even only a few months later the problem was resolved due to Barcelona's difficulty paying Raphinha in full this is the real answer that Barcelona's condition from a financial point of view is very difficult and now linking Osimhen with Barcelona in conditions like this could be a boomerang too even though the FFP threat is not too concerned because of some of the advantages Barcelona has but still they must also realize that their finances are still bad to bring Osimhen to Camp Nou.
The financial situation of Barcelona at the moment doesn't require an irrational spending. It requires careful consideration and study too. Barcelona needs to get out of the situation fast and so they wouldn't dare trade their chances. They've got eyes on some players who are or will also be willing to join them but they just can't squeeze out that funds because it'll lead to another jeopardy.

 It's so sad that for the mean time, they'll be left with just free transfer options or low budgeted players. Adding a high rated player in the team would also mean a careful study of his salary incentives and finding a plan that would befit this player and I don't think any player of that stance, would want his salary structure reviewed. The best thing for Barcelona is just endurance whilst finding quick means out of this situation so they'd be back to acquiring the best guys in the game. I'm sure anyway that that's definitely what will be done immediately they're out of this phase.
Therefore, of course, even though we are free to speculate anything but still have to look at the kepasi and I think the Osimhen and Barcona rumors are too made up and this is just like the media's need to attract readers only because indeed linking several players to several clubs that are quite large in one of the competitions then indeed it can be a good treat but that does not mean we also have to swallow the news directly without any filter because this is where we have to be observant to see the situation that occurs.

Indeed, until now Barcelona also really needs a good striker and of course Osimhen has more than enough capacity for now but indeed in terms of money power at this time Barcelona will not be able to do that.
Maybe some will say that Barcelona's financial problems are also too exaggerated by the media but I think in this case as long as they still have problems with FFP in terms of players and cash flow then indirectly their finances become a problem and it becomes strong that they will not be able to bring players who cost more than 100 million easily.

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December 15, 2023, 08:23:39 AM
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It's certain that Osimhen will leave Napoli once the opportunity opens up in the coming transfer window, because he is still a valuable striker that just won an award as well as him wanting to experience other top flight league competition most especially the EPL.
It's a dream for many star players from Spain or Italy to experience English soccer because it's one of the hardest leagues to play in and a difficult destination to win a Balon 'd or from, unless one is exceptionally too good to ignore, as in being as talented like Messi or Ronaldo.
What is clear is that from one competition to another, potential future stars like Osimhen and Mbappe must be able to feel it. Not only the English League, the La Liga competition is no less fierce. It's just a matter of decision for example Mbappe going to Madrid and Osimhen going to the Premier League, so the most important thing is to try the experience and be able to take steps to get out of your comfort zone. It doesn't matter which club they choose, but are Mbappe and Osimhen brave? only that!!

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December 15, 2023, 09:25:46 AM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.

When it comes to which one these teams he can go to I would say it might be Al-Hilal as they would offer a lot more money than PSG probably. But if he still wants to fight for titles in Europe then he could still choose PSG over them.
He's 31 years old now, which is not a young age. I don't know what he is aiming for at this age, whether he will follow in the footsteps of his former teammates and go to Arabia or he will stay in Europe and if Paris Saint Germain have a big interest in him that could be an option. But when going to Paris Saint Germain he must know the risks that will occur, because I see so far Paris Saint Germain has always been a graveyard for many players.
SPL is also quite competitive now, he can try if he wants to go there, especially since many European labeled players are there and that will make him quickly adapt.

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December 15, 2023, 09:42:37 AM
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This summer their president said it wants 400 mil for Osimhen.

I doubt he will leave for less than 150.

That is such a huge price to ask for. He must have done that to sell him at a price not less than 150 million as you’ve predicted. This will also drive away the interest of some top clubs. I am sure he will consider this offer but not to a much reduced amount less than the 150 million. Although any club that is so much interested to sign him, 150 million won’t be an issue for them to buy him if they are fully prepared for it.
Osimhen position is not much different from Mbappe at the moment both of them are still being targeted by big clubs and for Napoli taking action early is the right choice while Mbappe at PSG is a little different in terms of comfort alone which makes him uncomfortable but PSG still confirms Mbappe position so it doesn't come off easily. Napoli goal is to protect the team performance stability but on the other hand, Osimhen does not get the opportunity to step  foot in competitions other than Serie A.  With his current quality the decision to look for more flying schedules is  something that he has to do. Because being famous in just one competition is not that promising.  Likewise Mbappe  must now be able to decide for himself where to land.  No matter how big the player the alternative to becoming a star is a club that remains the main bridge. The question  is do Mbappe and Osimhen dare to leave the zone to look for bigger challenges?
It's certain that Osimhen will leave Napoli once the opportunity opens up in the coming transfer window, because he is still a valuable striker that just won an award as well as him wanting to experience other top flight league competition most especially the EPL.
It's a dream for many star players from Spain or Italy to experience English soccer because it's one of the hardest leagues to play in and a difficult destination to win a Balon 'd or from, unless one is exceptionally too good to ignore, as in being as talented like Messi or Ronaldo.
How can you say like that? Even the news was also showing the opposite thing if osimhen was not willing to leave from the club. So many news has been reporting that if osimhen is not willing to leave from there. He was not intentionally joining in the new club.
This is why the media was also doubting the chance of chelsea to get him from napoli. It seems like that he is going to disappear soon. Im doubting him to join in another club and it will not happen. Osimhen is too good to be true to leave from napoli.
His price is also become the main factor why he will not be leaving from the club. Napoli's president was really obsessed toward him. No doubt that if the team was trying so hard to make it happen for him to stay even longer.
I hope osimhen will not be leaving from napoli. Seeing him stuck in the same place is far better rather than getting more experience to play in the different league right now. Overrated player.
This is what i call him right now.

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December 15, 2023, 09:50:38 AM
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I completely agree with you. Osinhem is indeed a talented player, but the asking price of 400 million is just too much. That amount could practically build an entire mid-tier team from scratch. While it's possible that the Arab owners might have both the audacity and financial resources to go through with this deal, I personally think the probability of that happening is quite slim.
When we consider factors like fame, media attention, and sponsorship deals from brands, I believe players like Haaland or Mbappe would be more deserving of such a hefty investment. The marketability and global appeal of these players seem to overshadow the potential benefits of signing Osinhem at such an exorbitant cost.

So what's your point now? Simply because he's from Africa, I guess! Although I agree with you that the price tag on Victor is highly inflated deliberately by Napoli just to scare the potential teams showing interest in the player. Victor is a talented player and I think he has everything as per your listed qualities in your comment. The truth is that medias gives more attention to Europe players than our African brothers out there. Mbappe case is understandable but bringing Haaland to the picture for comparison with the likes of Victor is not actually worthy in my opinion.

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December 15, 2023, 09:59:36 AM
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This summer their president said it wants 400 mil for Osimhen.

I doubt he will leave for less than 150.
400 million? maybe he has lost his mind by setting the price that high or it's just his tactic so that no club will make an offer because he sees this striker as a valuable asset that must be well looked after by the club, but I'm pretty sure no club is willing to buy at that high a price even only for the price of 150 million as you mentioned because his value is not more than 100 million, especially since this season there has been a decline in his performance which of course his appearance will be the benchmark for any club that wants to buy him.
They lost the opportunity to sell him at a high price last season because at that time several clubs were reportedly interested in him, or indeed it was all just rumors.
This is just a tactic so that no other team wants to bid for Osimhen and I think the price of 400 million euros can only be placed on Messi and Ronaldo in their prime. Osimhen is indeed a good striker but not necessarily consistent because this price proves that he is a player who has always been consistent in every season throughout his career, not just one or two seasons. Even the market value of Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe only reaches 180 million euros and in terms of quality alone, Osimhen is still far behind these two players.

The owner of Napoli is just exaggerating and I don't think any team wants to sign him (unless Chelsea is in greedy mode). On the other hand, Osimhen will not leave if he feels he is still lacking and maybe he will still continue his career with Napoli despite the rumors.

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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.

This is part of the reason I keep saying PSG is not a very well-run club. PSG should have no reason to be interested in Casemiro. He is no longer what he used to be. PSG should be looking to sign better DMs like Zubimendi and Rodri. See how Casemiro is performing now in Man United, he is not at his best and I doubt he will ever get to that best again.
If I were Casemiro, I'd go to Al Hilal. He would play very well there because they have some very good players too that will complement him, plus the added advantage of being paid well.

Manchester United need new signings. They need a good DM because to me both Amrabat and Casemiro can't get the job done. Aside from the DM, they need good CMs that can hold the ball and distribute the ball very well. If they don't make good signings they'll continue to suffer.

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December 15, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
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Osimhen is one of the top strikers in Europe. Last season, he scored 26 goals in Serie A to help Napoli win the championship. Osimhen will have a release clause between 130 million euros and 140 million euros. This number makes any club that wants to pursue it cry.
Barca is missing a key striker. Lewandowski's injury and age make him no longer their goalscorer. Osimhen's replacement for Lewandowski is entirely reasonable. But I'm skeptical about Barca's financial capabilities. They should sell Lewandowski to Saudi Arabia to have enough money to recruit Osimhen.
I guess Osimhen will end up like Mbappe, staying in one team until he get old and retired.

I think Lewandowski isn't someone who really like to make money, he's really loyal with Bayern Munich and Poland, actually he can move to any team when he was still 28 years old and he can play in Germain national team because he have been say in German for 12 years, enough for him to become Deutscher.

I believe that Mbappé will leave in the following summer transfer window. Regarding Victor Osimhen, if he still chooses to stay in Napoli, it would be sad for a talent like him. Napoli is in lousy form this season. They will even lose the championship. Being in the top 4 is also very fragile. Osimhen will bury his career here.

Lewandowski does not want money but is no longer suitable for European football. He only adds to the burden on the clubs. The problem is that his salary is high, and his playing time is decreasing. Only Saudi Arabian clubs meet these requirements.

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December 15, 2023, 10:37:34 AM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.

When it comes to which one these teams he can go to I would say it might be Al-Hilal as they would offer a lot more money than PSG probably. But if he still wants to fight for titles in Europe then he could still choose PSG over them.

I've just read that Erik Ten Hag would present the list of players he would want to work with further ahead of the new transfer window.
I don't know how declined he's been for Manchester United but if selling him would make sense, then why not? But before they do that, they should get a good replacement for him and that player shouldn't be Sofyan Amrabat.

Heading to Parisians makes sense, they don't have that experience midfielder who have won the Champions League. I feel like he can bring that for them and also add to the yougins.
If not interested, then a move to the Saudi solves it all up!South Americans are known for chasing the bag. If we'll checked, Casemiro has won it all ( Top European Competitions ) he would want to chase the bag.

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December 15, 2023, 10:54:53 AM
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I don't know if this is a good decision from barcelona or not but, as you can see that since lewandowski was old striker and barcelona is not need him anymore. Lewandowski has been projected to join in the saudi pro league soo. With the came of that news and many speculations were popping up.
There are some strikers being linked to the barcelona like haaland, osinhem and recently barcelona has been also linked to the guimaraes from newcastle.

https://www.goal.com/en/news/live/transfer-news-and-rumours-live/blt1ccfda38eda06d5a

In my perspective if this is another stupid move from barcelona. I meant guimaraes rarely performing good in EPL. Look at this stat for the current season. He was playing 15 matches and he was only scoring 1 goal.
This is what xavi think as a worthy striker to be bought by barcelona. It seems like that the financial problem has been forcing barcelona to recruit a garbage striker like him.

Barcelona is on the way to go down again. I see no future owned by this club. The financial problem was obviously destroying barcelona.

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December 15, 2023, 11:20:14 AM
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That is such a huge price to ask for. He must have done that to sell him at a price not less than 150 million as you’ve predicted. This will also drive away the interest of some top clubs. I am sure he will consider this offer but not to a much reduced amount less than the 150 million. Although any club that is so much interested to sign him, 150 million won’t be an issue for them to buy him if they are fully prepared for it.
A fantastic price and I'm sure no team will be able to waste a large amount of money on a player, even Osimhen performance this season is not as impressive as last season so big teams will think as best as possible to recruit him. For Napoli, of course they set a higher price to be able to keep Osimhen from leaving to another team. He is still an important part of the Napoli squad this season even though his performance is not very good, but he can cause a lot of problems for the opposing defense.

Well, Chelsea is very interested in recruiting Osimhen, they even tried it in the last summer transfer window but it didn't work because Napoli asking price was quite high. Well, this is just speculation that is developing and I am sure that Napoli will try their best if they are really looking for a profit from selling Osimhen.
I understand your point about Osimhen's price. Unbelievable! My take: Chelsea's interest in him goes beyond window shopping. They appear serious. Chelsea may buy Osimhen for $150 million if they think he's worth it. The cost is high, but Chelsea has been known to spend heavily on players they desire.

I think Napoli's strategy is smart. They set a high price to dissuade most, but if Chelsea bites, Napoli wins. High-stakes chicken. I doubt Osimhen will go unless a club pays a much. Who knows in today's market?

Osimhen's performance this season may not be stellar, but his potential is apparent. Defenses struggle with him, which is valuable.

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December 15, 2023, 11:31:46 AM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.
Casemiro would likely leave Manchester United, but i don't think it can be to PSG. I found it weird when United paid £70m for a player of his age, there is no doubting his quality, but when a player is already above 30, he should not cost as much as that, except it is a Saudi club that is doing the signing, lol.

PSG are looking for younger players, especially from France, that is the direction the club has decided to take, they no longer want to sign only big stars, but they want to nurture young talents, if Casemiro leaves United, Saudi Arabia would be a more likely destination that the French champions.
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December 15, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.
Casemiro would likely leave Manchester United, but i don't think it can be to PSG. I found it weird when United paid £70m for a player of his age, there is no doubting his quality, but when a player is already above 30, he should not cost as much as that, except it is a Saudi club that is doing the signing, lol.

PSG are looking for younger players, especially from France, that is the direction the club has decided to take, they no longer want to sign only big stars, but they want to nurture young talents, if Casemiro leaves United, Saudi Arabia would be a more likely destination that the French champions.

PSG has indeed turned towards younger talents from France. I like the approach and their whole attacking line if French now, which I thought is an amazing idea and is quite promising, but let's see how far Mbappe + Kolo Muani + Dembele can take PSG this season. But did PSG abandon the purchase strategy of old stars entirely? Maybe you are right, but Ramos was also one of those transfers I never understood. Perhaps Casemiro is a player they would want for the defense, but I agree that it is more likely that Casemiro himself wants once of these juicy contracts in Saudi Arabia.

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December 15, 2023, 12:09:05 PM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.
Casemiro would likely leave Manchester United, but i don't think it can be to PSG. I found it weird when United paid £70m for a player of his age, there is no doubting his quality, but when a player is already above 30, he should not cost as much as that, except it is a Saudi club that is doing the signing, lol.

PSG are looking for younger players, especially from France, that is the direction the club has decided to take, they no longer want to sign only big stars, but they want to nurture young talents, if Casemiro leaves United, Saudi Arabia would be a more likely destination that the French champions.

PSG has indeed turned towards younger talents from France. I like the approach and their whole attacking line if French now, which I thought is an amazing idea and is quite promising, but let's see how far Mbappe + Kolo Muani + Dembele can take PSG this season. But did PSG abandon the purchase strategy of old stars entirely? Maybe you are right, but Ramos was also one of those transfers I never understood. Perhaps Casemiro is a player they would want for the defense, but I agree that it is more likely that Casemiro himself wants once of these juicy contracts in Saudi Arabia.

With a fee of nearly 70 million pounds, the former Real Madrid star played well in his first season with the MU. However, in the 2023/24 season, Casemiro suddenly declined and is recovering until the end of the year due to a hamstring problem. PSG is considering strengthening its midfield in the winter transfer window, with midfielder Casemiro being one of the targets. They don't necessarily choose young players, experienced players are also worth picking. If they liquidate him for a bargain price under 30 million.
Al-Hilal in Saudi Arabia is also ready to jump into the race for a signature, in the context of the 31-year-old midfielder's future at Old Trafford being quite unclear. It seems that Saudi Arabia is always a place to store outdated players.

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December 15, 2023, 12:22:31 PM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.
Really? you need to check Casemiro's stats, he close to be perfect, not many players have such high stats. I don't think Casemiro can be said as an old player or something like can't play in the competitive league anymore. He's still Casemiro that was playing in Real Madrid, it's a huge lose if Manchester United want to sell him.


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December 15, 2023, 12:33:04 PM
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Casemiro would likely leave Manchester United, but i don't think it can be to PSG. I found it weird when United paid £70m for a player of his age, there is no doubting his quality, but when a player is already above 30, he should not cost as much as that, except it is a Saudi club that is doing the signing, lol.
Buying a player from 28 and above is risky. Some of them will experience a drop in performance, others will become injury-prone and their injuries will take more time to heal. Paying Real Madrid such an amount for an aging midfielder might be an error but they thought he would deliver, but sadly he underperformed. But there is still interest for the Brazilian which shows that he is still relevant to some clubs. But there are speculations that the Brazilian has an interest in moving to Bayern Munich. With the future of Thomas Tuchel in doubt and rumors that Xavi Alonso might be moving to Allianz Arena, Casemiro might want to join him.

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PSG are looking for younger players, especially from France, that is the direction the club has decided to take, they no longer want to sign only big stars, but they want to nurture young talents, if Casemiro leaves United, Saudi Arabia would be a more likely destination that the French champions.
A report claimed that Real Madrid dropped the bid of signing Mbappé because of his age. And a close look at Real's new signings shows that they are interested in young player. PSG should raise or sign young players and allow advanced players to move to Saudi Arabia  Smiley.

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December 15, 2023, 02:28:42 PM
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According to the goal, salah will remain stay at the liverpool till his contract end. Salah's contract will end at january 2025. It seems like that he has no intention to extend his contract even longer. He loves to play at liverpool and FSG may be refusing an offer that will come from saudi pro league club soon. As mentioned by goal if saudi club wants him to be exchanged with 150 millions of money. I think that this is the time for liverpool to let him go out from the club. There will be no another chance to get very big offer like that.

Klopp can buy so many great players with that amounts of money. 150 millions are very big price for salah. The club can consider to sell him caused by salah's contract becomes even shorter.
If salah has no intention to extend his contract and he can leave from the club as free agent. It will make liverpool lose 150 millions from saudi pro league. I hope FSG will try to consider that offer.

Salah will able to play in SPL. This is good for him.

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December 15, 2023, 02:33:07 PM
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A report claimed that Real Madrid dropped the bid of signing Mbappé because of his age. And a close look at Real's new signings shows that they are interested in young player. PSG should raise or sign young players and allow advanced players to move to Saudi Arabia  Smiley.



But according to other reports, Real Madrid will make their offer as soon as the year ends. Actually, I still doubt this report, but if it really happens, it might be the last offer for Kylian Mbappe. Real Madrid are tired of waiting for uncertainty from Kylian Mbappe and they should look for other options for strikers. On the other hand, Real Madrid actually has everything to offer, but why should they bet on Kylian Mbappe and not try other players out there because it is impossible for them to continue playing without the number 9 player next season.

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December 15, 2023, 02:46:29 PM
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Casemiro is said to be a target by PSG and Al-Hilal now. You know he has been quite far away from his old performances recently. This is why Manchester United are said to be thinking of parting ways with him. His time with injury didn't end up well for him. He is still a quality player but he needs to improve his effort much more than this.
Casemiro would likely leave Manchester United, but i don't think it can be to PSG. I found it weird when United paid £70m for a player of his age, there is no doubting his quality, but when a player is already above 30, he should not cost as much as that, except it is a Saudi club that is doing the signing, lol.

PSG are looking for younger players, especially from France, that is the direction the club has decided to take, they no longer want to sign only big stars, but they want to nurture young talents, if Casemiro leaves United, Saudi Arabia would be a more likely destination that the French champions.

He had a very high rating and was in a pretty decent form before he joined Manchester United that same season. It's either PSG of Saudi Arabian League, they would speed up the chase to get him signed. Who doesn't want such a great player in their squad? Really? He should not cost what? Ronaldo moved to Juventus at what age exactly? Harry Kane English International Captain has just joined Bayern Munich at what age please.?

Amongst the four names I saw, Casemiro was amongst them most likely to leave Manchester United when the transfer window begins.
They would also be without a top man like Kylian Mbappe, I agree with you they have plans to sign up younger players for the squad upgrades.

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