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December 25, 2023, 04:24:43 PM
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The Manchester teams and Liverpool are all targeting to sign Joshua Kimmich as it seems. He has less than 2 years left on his contract at the moment. I wonder when Bayern Munich are planning to make a contract extension offer to him. Because I believe he is still one of the most important players of the team. He is a critical player in the midfield.

His current market value is 75 million euros by the way. I don't think Bayern Munich would drop down from this level. Are those teams really willing to sign him still? Especially Manchester United would make use of a solid defensive midfielder transfer while their defense is in bad shape.
A move to Manchester United would hinder the development of Kobbie Mainoo, though they'll be needing experience alongside the young. He shouldn't consider the move to Manchester United. They shouldn't end his beautiful career.

Moving to the united will be another disaster for any player who has a good run in the current club. I prefer for any good players to refrain from joining in the manchester united if it's still coached by ten hag. There have been many victims caused by the bad managerial by ten hag.
It proves so many time ten hag is very often to have problems with his own players. Ten hag never able to create a good enviroment for his players. This is the thing that doubted me if someone was moving to join in the manchester united.
They shall have learned from what happened with onana and hojlund. The players have been targeted by manchester united needs to think for twice. They may also end their career in manchester united.
Any players shall reconsider it before try to go to the manchester united coz they are putting their career into the big risk. This is what i can take it from the result of onana and hojlund. They played better in serie a.
It seems the pressures are too big for all of em.

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December 25, 2023, 04:30:22 PM
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The Manchester teams and Liverpool are all targeting to sign Joshua Kimmich as it seems. He has less than 2 years left on his contract at the moment. I wonder when Bayern Munich are planning to make a contract extension offer to him. Because I believe he is still one of the most important players of the team. He is a critical player in the midfield.

His current market value is 75 million euros by the way. I don't think Bayern Munich would drop down from this level. Are those teams really willing to sign him still? Especially Manchester United would make use of a solid defensive midfielder transfer while their defense is in bad shape.
A move to Manchester United would hinder the development of Kobbie Mainoo, though they'll be needing experience alongside the young. He shouldn't consider the move to Manchester United. They shouldn't end his beautiful career.

Moving to the united will be another disaster for any player who has a good run in the current club. I prefer for any good players to refrain from joining in the manchester united if it's still coached by ten hag. There have been many victims caused by the bad managerial by ten hag.
It proves so many time ten hag is very often to have problems with his own players. Ten hag never able to create a good enviroment for his players. This is the thing that doubted me if someone was moving to join in the manchester united.
They shall have learned from what happened with onana and hojlund. The players have been targeted by manchester united needs to think for twice. They may also end their career in manchester united.
Any players shall reconsider it before try to go to the manchester united coz they are putting their career into the big risk. This is what i can take it from the result of onana and hojlund. They played better in serie a.
It seems the pressures are too big for all of em.
Well, it will only be a disaster to players who are already made and have built the reputations for themselves and not looking for avenues to prove themselves to the global football stage,  but for players who are still very young in their career to build a name for themselves,  they will definitely put in all the work to make sure they prove themselves worthy of any chance given to them.

Manchester United is a perfect ground for any club that is looking to build a name since the club has been underperforming,  it becomes easy for any payer that can create a record in matches,  so for that I don't see the player moving to Manchester United as a disaster for the player since they have the best chances to create a record for themselves.
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December 25, 2023, 04:34:10 PM
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A new jewel maybe go to Manchester City. 17 years old, his name: Claudio Echeverr. He wants to leave River Plate, he wont be extend his contract and Manchester City habe good chance, maybe his next stop. But he will continue to play for River Plate until the end of 2024. His current market value is 12 million euros at the age of 17. And he is one of the national team of Argentina.

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December 25, 2023, 05:26:40 PM
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Zidane success in winning three UCL trophies in a row increases his bargaining value for clubs who want to get his services. I think there is a lot of speculation regarding his future. Previously, it was reported that Zidane was reluctant to coach an EPL club, in this case Man United, because of a language barrier. I think that now the problem in question is no longer relevant. Other clubs linked with Zidane are PSG and Marseille, but these are just unofficial rumors.

I think there are many reasons why Zidane hasn't coached a club, we only know what the media reports. However, there is great hope that Zidane can return to training soon, whichever club will be his next destination will be very lucky. Madrid will part ways with Ancelotti at the end of the season, it could be that Zidane will return to coach Los Blancos.
I think the reason about the language for the EPL will still be relevant because some time before it was not only Manchester United who did approach Zidane but several other big clubs including Chelsea also tried to approach this coach but indeed Zidane's reason still seems to remain the same where he does not want to be in the EPL club to become a coach anywhere.
For PSG they tried to approach but Zidane was also not interested even though the rumors about Marseille were also very large but the clarity about the acquisition of the club by Arab investors is currently still confusing because what I can understand from the news is that Zidane is ready to be at Marseille when the resources owned are fully large because of the pouring of middle eastern investors just like PSG but it is now still a mystery because Marseille still remains in the power of its current regime.

Zidane will always be the most interesting discussion for coaches because after all with the record he has created at Madrid it is indeed a condition that is indeed worth approaching because his cold hands can bring a club to its prime only it is not easy because Zidane remains with the commitment he is currently living and is still reluctant to get out of his situation without any club.
It's true, there is no clarity regarding Marseille acquisition of ownership until now, if that really happens then there will be competition in Ligue 1 with PSG, and we will see Zidane return to coaching. There is little chance of this scenario happening, I think it makes more sense if Zidane is recruited by PSG if Luis Enrique fails to win the UCL trophy this season. Because as a very rich club, PSG will be able to fulfill Zidane request, they will build the club according to Zidane wishes. Coaching one of the EPL clubs is no less challenging for Zidane, moreover it will create an axis of competition with Pep Guardiola. But as you said, it seems like Zidane has no interest in coaching any club in the EPL.

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December 25, 2023, 05:28:16 PM
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A new jewel maybe go to Manchester City. 17 years old, his name: Claudio Echeverr. He wants to leave River Plate, he wont be extend his contract and Manchester City habe good chance, maybe his next stop. But he will continue to play for River Plate until the end of 2024. His current market value is 12 million euros at the age of 17. And he is one of the national team of Argentina.

I didn't hear his name before and I think Claudio Echeverri is an unknown layer in countries other than Argentina the but the good point about Claudio Echeverri is about his age, this player is young and he can have huge potential in Manchester City to use have a good performance there.
The good thing we saw during this season from the top teams is about their interest to these young players in Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Barcelona.

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December 25, 2023, 05:31:02 PM
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Moving to the united will be another disaster for any player who has a good run in the current club. I prefer for any good players to refrain from joining in the manchester united if it's still coached by ten hag. There have been many victims caused by the bad managerial by ten hag.
It proves so many time ten hag is very often to have problems with his own players. Ten hag never able to create a good enviroment for his players. This is the thing that doubted me if someone was moving to join in the manchester united.
They shall have learned from what happened with onana and hojlund. The players have been targeted by manchester united needs to think for twice. They may also end their career in manchester united.
Any players shall reconsider it before try to go to the manchester united coz they are putting their career into the big risk. This is what i can take it from the result of onana and hojlund. They played better in serie a.
It seems the pressures are too big for all of em.
Players experiences can shape perceptions, and the cases of Onana and Højlund might raise concerns. Each player's journey is unique, and there are multiple factors that contribute to challenges in a new environment. Managerial styles and teammates can have varying impacts on different players. The experiences of Onana and Højlund, while they may not have met expectations at Manchester United, do not necessarily dictate the fate of all players under ten Hag's coaching. I dont think it's a coacing factor rather than the club's environment.

Players contemplating a move to Manchester United or any other club should carefully weigh their options. Currently Manchester United seem to not have a supportive environment for players to thrive. The high expectations and the tough rivals like Manchester City migth have created the narative that some players dont deliver enough contributions, and this narative put more pressure on the players.

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December 25, 2023, 05:45:07 PM
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A new jewel maybe go to Manchester City. 17 years old, his name: Claudio Echeverr. He wants to leave River Plate, he wont be extend his contract and Manchester City habe good chance, maybe his next stop. But he will continue to play for River Plate until the end of 2024. His current market value is 12 million euros at the age of 17. And he is one of the national team of Argentina.

I didn't hear his name before and I think Claudio Echeverri is an unknown layer in countries other than Argentina the but the good point about Claudio Echeverri is about his age, this player is young and he can have huge potential in Manchester City to use have a good performance there.
The good thing we saw during this season from the top teams is about their interest to these young players in Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Barcelona.


I am afraid that he will become like Kalvin Phillips and not get the chance to perform. I mean they already have Julian Alvarez and Haaland. Alvarez is kind of the backup of Halaand who is actually performing really well as well. If you guys can remember, Kalvin Philips was also signed by Leeds United and he wasn't given many chances. He sits on the side bench and watches others play. He isn't growing. It's almost as if they had bought him just to not play against Phillips. But I hope that this isn't the case with Echeverri. But I doubt he will be getting many chances.

Barcelona is also about to sign a new young striker Vitor Roque. He will be bought for 30 million euros + add-ons. His release clause will be 500 million Euros. Will be interesting to see if Barcelona can create a gem out of this guy.

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Moving to the united will be another disaster for any player who has a good run in the current club. I prefer for any good players to refrain from joining in the manchester united if it's still coached by ten hag. There have been many victims caused by the bad managerial by ten hag.
It proves so many time ten hag is very often to have problems with his own players. Ten hag never able to create a good enviroment for his players. This is the thing that doubted me if someone was moving to join in the manchester united.
They shall have learned from what happened with onana and hojlund. The players have been targeted by manchester united needs to think for twice. They may also end their career in manchester united.
Any players shall reconsider it before try to go to the manchester united coz they are putting their career into the big risk. This is what i can take it from the result of onana and hojlund. They played better in serie a.
It seems the pressures are too big for all of em.
Well, it will only be a disaster to players who are already made and have built the reputations for themselves and not looking for avenues to prove themselves to the global football stage,  but for players who are still very young in their career to build a name for themselves,  they will definitely put in all the work to make sure they prove themselves worthy of any chance given to them.

Manchester United is a perfect ground for any club that is looking to build a name since the club has been underperforming,  it becomes easy for any payer that can create a record in matches,  so for that I don't see the player moving to Manchester United as a disaster for the player since they have the best chances to create a record for themselves.

I think it is actually going to be a big problem for any young player who is trying to prove himself to go to the Manchester United Club right now as well. Because if they goes to man utd with a very big expectations and they are unable to perform under needed circumstances, it is going to be very bad for his career going forward, and he might actually not recover from that quickly, right?.  So to any promising player who is young, it is obviously recommended to not go to man utd especially right now. If they appoint a new coach, and he is able to bring results, that might be a different story.

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Moving to the united will be another disaster for any player who has a good run in the current club. I prefer for any good players to refrain from joining in the manchester united if it's still coached by ten hag. There have been many victims caused by the bad managerial by ten hag.
It proves so many time ten hag is very often to have problems with his own players. Ten hag never able to create a good enviroment for his players. This is the thing that doubted me if someone was moving to join in the manchester united.
They shall have learned from what happened with onana and hojlund. The players have been targeted by manchester united needs to think for twice. They may also end their career in manchester united.
Any players shall reconsider it before try to go to the manchester united coz they are putting their career into the big risk. This is what i can take it from the result of onana and hojlund. They played better in serie a.
It seems the pressures are too big for all of em.
The majority of shares in Manchester United are officially owned by Sir Jim Ratcliffe, and it is reported that there will be a major overhaul of the Manchester squad, the issue is that Bruno Fernandes will be kicked out by him and it is also possible that Ten Hag will be affected as well.  From what i've noticed, the Man Utd squad is actually one of the best in the EPL, but what's wrong with them is their strategy and coaching style, let's take an example from other leagues, just look at how Liverpool's performance has been under Xabi Alonso's coaching, Leverkusen's performance has gone up drastic, it could even be called the best in the Bundesliga at the moment.  i'm sure, if Ratcliffe replaces Ten Hag with another coach, Man Utd's performance will improve, there's no point in adding new players to Man Utd when their problems come from the coach.

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There is no answer to that question yet, but the wait is likely to be short, depending on when Mbappe moves to Real Madrid, winter or summer. There are rumours that Mbappe has already signed some agreements with Real, but when exactly he will move is not clear

No, Mbappe won't leave PSG during the winter transfer window. This is really not a question of winter or summer. It is rather summer or never. The rumors that Mbappe signed a contract with Real Madrid are probably from the same person that is saying that Haaland has already signed agreements with Real Madrid Wink Everyone who is world class in Europe has presumably signed secret contracts with Real Madrid Cheesy

Maybe, I've only seen the media actively discussing it a couple of times. Regarding "now or never" that's a fact, unless of course Real change their mind about signing him at all by the summer. Where will he go then I wonder, will he stay at PSG again with no possibility of further development?

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December 25, 2023, 08:58:16 PM
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Kubo is one of the young players who has quite good potential, it's just that from the beginning his steps were a little wrong by choosing Madrid which made him lose momentum but now at Sociedad he is still one of the backbones for Sociedad to achieve his best performance.
Exchanging Antony with Kubo I think it will be a pretty good situation.

Antony did have a pretty good performance but indeed his performance faded especially with some scandals he had some time ago making his performance even lower and it would be great to have a change in the same position especially since they also have the same typical attack by relying on speed and dribbling.

It's been a while since Manchester United have had Asian players like Park Ji Sung and of course Kubo's senior in the Japanese national team, Kagawa and I would be very happy if this could finally be realized for Manchester United.


It will be another stupid swap if brighton will agree to swap him for antony. We do know that how antony has been known as a garbage winger. he has very bad statistic in the manchester united and he has no chance anymore to play there.
De zerbi shall not be doing stupid thing by exchangeing him for a garbage winger. Kubo is far better than antony and he was also very helpful to the club. I think that it's not a worthy swap consider that if kubo is far experienced in EPL compared to the antony.
It will be another biggest mistake from zerbi if the club was trying to replace him with garbage player like antony.

Zerbi can think to swap him if manchester united will give additional money like 50 millons. The price of antony has been declining so hard and there's no choice for mu other than try to sell or swap him.
Antony is so garbage.
There's a little mistake my friend, Kubo is currently at Sociedad and you may have confused Kubo who is at Sociedad with Mitoma who is at Brighton at the moment Smiley
But indeed giving Antony in exchange for Kubo is still a risky situation for Sociedad because after all, looking at the statistics that Antony has done during the current match with 19 total matches made in all competitions (Champions League, Europa League and EFL) he still cannot record himself as a goal scorer or assist for Manchester United and this is proof that he is now not playing well.
But maybe if there is an exchange accompanied by money then maybe this can still be done only is Manchester United willing to do that? I think it's a bit complicated.
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I kept asking myself: what kind of joke is this? This won't change anything because the owners continue to be the same person who is currently unable to manage the team well, so why only sell 25% of the shares instead of selling 100%? In my opinion, the answer to this question is very simple: the owners of Manchester United have no interest in seeing the team go far and they do not want to sell the entire team because they like power and unfortunately, as long as Manchester United does not have serious owners, the team They won't be able to compete with the big teams for the title, much less for the European Champions League. It's very ridiculous to see a team like Manchester United not being able to compete for the title and not being able to compete to win the European Champions League and they were even eliminated in the group stage of the European Champions League and didn't even get a place in the European League
I also had the same thought. The joining of Sir Jim Ratcliffe with Man United will not provide significant changes because he doesn't really have full control over Man United. So even if he has a vision and plan that might be useful for Man United, I don't think it will work optimally because he has limitations. Glazer still controls the majority share of ownership, which means that their priority goal will always be business profits.
From another perspective, the Glazers, who invested in Manchester United, made incredible sales for 25% of the team. Sir James Ratcliffe will also have a say in football and will be able to play an influential role in important decisions for the future of Manchester United. This is one of the most important news.

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I think it is actually going to be a big problem for any young player who is trying to prove himself to go to the Manchester United Club right now as well. Because if they goes to man utd with a very big expectations and they are unable to perform under needed circumstances, it is going to be very bad for his career going forward, and he might actually not recover from that quickly, right?.  So to any promising player who is young, it is obviously recommended to not go to man utd especially right now. If they appoint a new coach, and he is able to bring results, that might be a different story.
It depends on the readiness that you have to have in the end, when a young player is signed it will definitely be a gamble for his future career because he could be a very good player but he could be worse especially when he is signed by a big club.
Not a few young wonderkids who failed like Hachim Mastour who was predicted to have good potential but instead failed at Milan or maybe the name Reiss Nelson who was at Arsenal and actually his performance was quite promising but because the pressure of a big club was so strong that he could not compete well at Arsenal which made him have to leave.

But on the other hand there are also players who can actually become prima donnas like what happened to Vini in Madrid now if he can make a very good contribution to the club then indeed trust will easily come only for young players like this especially when in a competition that is not very well known in Europe it will be very difficult for them to adapt and this must be emphasised because being directly at a big club like Manchester City is not easy because the competition in it just to enter the core line-up is not easy.

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December 25, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
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The Manchester teams and Liverpool are all targeting to sign Joshua Kimmich as it seems. He has less than 2 years left on his contract at the moment. I wonder when Bayern Munich are planning to make a contract extension offer to him. Because I believe he is still one of the most important players of the team. He is a critical player in the midfield.

His current market value is 75 million euros by the way. I don't think Bayern Munich would drop down from this level. Are those teams really willing to sign him still? Especially Manchester United would make use of a solid defensive midfielder transfer while their defense is in bad shape.
I think Man United won't try to sign Kimmich, they have some strong midfielders. Casemiro, Amrabat, McTominay, and Eriksen. They have enough midfielders, so they probably won't compete for signing Kimmich. Man City that may try to sign a new midfielder, they have lack of quality midfielders. They only have Rodri that can show a stable performance. So, I think Man City and Liverpool which compete for signing Kimmich in the upcoming transfer window.

However, I'm not sure Bayern Munich will sell Kimmich. I think they will extend Kimmich's contract in the next year.

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Maybe, I've only seen the media actively discussing it a couple of times. Regarding "now or never" that's a fact, unless of course Real change their mind about signing him at all by the summer. Where will he go then I wonder, will he stay at PSG again with no possibility of further development?

I guess nobody can really tell what's going on in Mbappe's head and I suspect that Mbappe may not be fully aware of his next step himself as the people he is dealing with are as unpredictable as he himself is to us. He can't know whether Nasser Al-Khelaifi is stepping into the hotel room where the negotiations take place, opens his suitcase and hands over an offer for another year that is literally blinding Mbappe's eyes.

A few scenarios could be possible. I doubt that Mbappe would sign another long term contract with PSG because that would be the worst of all options for him. But I think we could see this 1-year extension game for a while and Mbappe squeezes out every single euro he can get every time. It is like a slippery slope for Al-Khelaifi because when he paid amount xxx last time, what's the problem if he pays xxx + 50 million next time.

So it is either an extension at PSG or he will finally go to Real Madrid for a long time.

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December 25, 2023, 10:36:31 PM
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From another perspective, the Glazers, who invested in Manchester United, made incredible sales for 25% of the team. Sir James Ratcliffe will also have a say in football and will be able to play an influential role in important decisions for the future of Manchester United. This is one of the most important news.
Selling half of the team would not build any season. Manchester United is the home of fortress were we have watch top games and the club lifting major trophies and become record breakers, but eventually everything have been scored in the past and this is present, the Red Devils should look for good means of resolving their problems. The Glazers have to totally refrained from the decisions of selling 100% of the club to a top business mogue, rather they settle for initial agreements with bidders and explained out the essential basis, some accepts and other rejects.

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A new jewel maybe go to Manchester City. 17 years old, his name: Claudio Echeverr. He wants to leave River Plate, he wont be extend his contract and Manchester City habe good chance, maybe his next stop. But he will continue to play for River Plate until the end of 2024. His current market value is 12 million euros at the age of 17. And he is one of the national team of Argentina.

I didn't hear his name before and I think Claudio Echeverri is an unknown layer in countries other than Argentina the but the good point about Claudio Echeverri is about his age, this player is young and he can have huge potential in Manchester City to use have a good performance there.
The good thing we saw during this season from the top teams is about their interest to these young players in Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Barcelona.
I have also not heard about his name either but seeing him in Argentina's jersey with No. 10 is something to put into consideration because, just as you said, he is a good player at his age, but he will never be a first-team player; he has to wait to adapt to the Premier League and have to wait on the bench. I believe they will sign him to be a support to the team because Silva is becoming old, they are yet to get the perfect replacement for Gundogan, and they want to rebuild their team to keep their position as the best team in the world.

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December 25, 2023, 11:04:16 PM
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Zerbi can think to swap him if manchester united will give additional money like 50 millons. The price of antony has been declining so hard and there's no choice for mu other than try to sell or swap him.
Antony is so garbage.

De Zerbi will go to Manchester City, next year or in the next 2 years.

Guardiola already "announced" him.

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Premier league financial situation is not an easy one at all to manage. First of all, the whole world knows that they are making a ton of money, so they ask more money from them, like lets say you are a team that is midtable at serie A and you have a player, you ask 70 million euro from United, whereas you ask for 30 million at most from Juventus, why? Because you know United or City can pay that, premier league is a rich league. This looks like a good thing for premier league teams, they do have a lot of money, and a big budget but the reality is that if you make a mistake then how can you recover? I mean making 80-90 million euro worth mistakes are not easy to get rid of, and that's what causes them to get worse and worse over time.

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December 25, 2023, 11:34:11 PM
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I kept asking myself: what kind of joke is this? This won't change anything because the owners continue to be the same person who is currently unable to manage the team well, so why only sell 25% of the shares instead of selling 100%? In my opinion, the answer to this question is very simple: the owners of Manchester United have no interest in seeing the team go far and they do not want to sell the entire team because they like power and unfortunately, as long as Manchester United does not have serious owners, the team They won't be able to compete with the big teams for the title, much less for the European Champions League. It's very ridiculous to see a team like Manchester United not being able to compete for the title and not being able to compete to win the European Champions League and they were even eliminated in the group stage of the European Champions League and didn't even get a place in the European League
I also had the same thought. The joining of Sir Jim Ratcliffe with Man United will not provide significant changes because he doesn't really have full control over Man United. So even if he has a vision and plan that might be useful for Man United, I don't think it will work optimally because he has limitations. Glazer still controls the majority share of ownership, which means that their priority goal will always be business profits.
True and this is what i understand after sir him has announced that if he would like to replace ten hag with graham potter. OMG! this sir jim doesn't even understand the main problem is facing by manchester united. Jim may make the situation to be even worst since he has been projected graham potter to be a successor for ten hag which is so pathetic to see that happens. Manchester united needs someone who can perform even better than ten hag and it's likely the come of jim to the manchester united may be giving a bad impact to the club.
he has planned to change the coach from worst to the another worst coach and this will not give impact to the manchester united. United needs to understand that if this time the club needs a good coach who can handle the club like mourinho.
This is what MU wanted to achieve and im sure people are also aware about this too. Sir jim will not give good impact.

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