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September 03, 2023, 03:33:28 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.

Chelsea might able to get a less price for him if the club was just trying to agree with the first offer by brighton. The mistake has been on the management of the club which is waiting too long to take the final decision.
The same thing was also happening when chelsea bought another player as well. Buying player is actually gambling. The player can perform good or bad depending on how convenient him in the club.
This is the bad habit owned by chelsea. The club is also feeling so hesitant in picking the new coach as well. It's affecting the performance from the club.
I remember when chelsea was changing its coach three times in a row last season.

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September 03, 2023, 03:53:37 PM
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I support Klopp when he said that if Saudi is to level up and be professional, they should follow a unified calendar.
They cannot keep their windows open longer than the English window and other European windows.
They are interested in Salah, if they eventually get him because of their extended window, how will Liverpool have a replacement of Salah.
I read that Saudi wants to nominate two clubs to play in the Champions League, if this should work out, they have to have similar calendar with Europe.

Turkish clubs see this period as an opportunity to buy players that the big clubs want to offload but can't find a buyer for. Moreover, it is possible to make a cheaper transfer during this period. Because a player who is not considered in the squad and will be left as a substitute creates both an unnecessary salary burden and unrest within the team because he does not play. The transfer season in Turkiye will end on the 15th of this month. I think this is an advantage for us. And most good transfers are made in this period. And the last days of the transfer are always more active. For example, Galatasaray are getting ready to sign a player who plays in the number 8 position. Cheesy

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September 03, 2023, 03:56:10 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.

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September 03, 2023, 04:04:58 PM
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I support Klopp when he said that if Saudi is to level up and be professional, they should follow a unified calendar.
They cannot keep their windows open longer than the English window and other European windows.
They are interested in Salah, if they eventually get him because of their extended window, how will Liverpool have a replacement of Salah.
I read that Saudi wants to nominate two clubs to play in the Champions League, if this should work out, they have to have similar calendar with Europe.
As long as Saudi Arabia aren't really serious to be nominated in Champions League, they can still create their own rules.

Klopp say this because he want to make sure Salah will not leave Liverpool, actually this will depend on Salah's decision and no one should intervent his own decision. Klopp don't want to play fair, he should convince Salah to make him stay, not giving pressure to other competitor.
I agree with you that Klopp efforts are as if they were just to keep Mohamed Salah at Liverpool because this player really has a big influence on Liverpool future this season, like a key player that the coach is holding on to stay with this club.
But actually as long as Mohamed Salah still has a contract with the club he cannot make his own decision to accept an offer from any club even though the Saudi Arabian club has made its own claim regarding this transfer but all decisions remain with the club management so Mohamed Salah will not act carelessly regarding the transfer.
The statement you made is the right statement in this case. Some Person said that it is Mohamed salah decision to choose if he will play for Saudia Arabia club, or he will remain in Liverpool. But that is not the truth. As long as the contract between Mohamed salah and Liverpool is still valid, Salah does not have decision of his own to make in this case.

And again, he can only make such a decision assuming it was put in the clause of his contracts. And I am not sure that such thing exist in  his contract. So Mohamed Salah moving to Saudi Arabia will depend on the decision of the club.

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September 03, 2023, 04:39:22 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.
Mauricio Pochettino has attempts to build new era for Chelsea that's why he was very active this summer to bought some players and i have counted it at least Chelsea buy 9 players in this transfer window and indeed not all transfer will be very effective because possibly some of transfer will be failed and so far only Nicolas Jackson who can adapt quickly with Pochettino strategy that he was being an Chelsea key player for forward lines and i have to says he has showing consistent performance and he was already scores goals several times this season

Some players still required to adapt just like Moises Caicedo that some of fans has been criticizing his performance and considers he is overpriced because he was made a mistakes when Chelsea lose from West Ham few weeks ago and Chelsea too a bit unlucky because their new player who transfered from Leipzig Christopher Nkunku is got long term injured

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The statement you made is the right statement in this case. Some Person said that it is Mohamed salah decision to choose if he will play for Saudia Arabia club, or he will remain in Liverpool. But that is not the truth. As long as the contract between Mohamed salah and Liverpool is still valid, Salah does not have decision of his own to make in this case.

And again, he can only make such a decision assuming it was put in the clause of his contracts. And I am not sure that such thing exist in  his contract. So Mohamed Salah moving to Saudi Arabia will depend on the decision of the club.

^^ Good point. He does have a contract with Liverpool and as long as it doesn't expires he is likely gonna stay. Klopp decision is clear that they don't want to sell Salah and that seems like a case closed to me. No need to speculate it further. Saudi are making a desperate attempts to sign Salah with huge bids and try to tempt the club to agree to the move but so far it seems that Liverpool hasn't budge a bit regarding this. Question is at what value will Liverpool budge or will they continue decline any offers for the player.

I am kinda unsure here as there has been cases where clubs have changed their stance over a huge fee so possible that Liverpool also might change stance later on.

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Chelsea must have spent around 450 million euros for transfers this summer. However for now there are still serious issues to be seen. Their start to the season isn't impressive at all. They lost to Nottingham home today shockingly. Will we really see a similar scenario this season? Because they spent a lot of money last summer also but the result of it wasn't positive.

It is early to talk about such things of course. However I'm worried about their future games already as I have seen this bad scenario before.

I hope the team improve their effort as soon as possible. Nkunku's absence is felt so much. Jackson signing hasn't been beneficial for Chelsea yet.
Chelsea cannot save money in every transfer window. Where they also did crazy things in last season's transfer window and this continues in this summer's transfer window. I think they are taking a big gamble by buying players with high price tags but their abilities haven't been tested enough so far.

Chelsea even released some of their best players this season, such as Pulisic, where he showed impressive quality with AC Milan and also a number of other high-quality players who were released by Chelsea. Well, Chelsea have just reaped bad results after they were beaten in front of their supporters. It is quite difficult to imagine their fate this season, the players are increasingly under pressure and their new coach has not been successful enough so far.
Personally I don't expect a instant turn around of Chelsea by Pochettino unfortunately many of their fans wanted an immediate impact and positive result having considered £450m spent on signing new players this season, I think Pochettino should be given enough time to rebuild the team of course they have some prospects and promising talented young players in their squad, Sterling, Chilwell and Tiago Silva were the old and experience players in the squad therefore it's going to take time for the new signings to be integrated into team, of course they team isn't playing badly unfortunately luck isn't on their side in some of the matches they had played and their final third has been very wasteful in front of goal.
I think a club spending £450 million on new players is investing in talent. Ability doesn't arise out of nowhere. Pochettino isn't Harry Potter despite his exorbitant price. He can't magically win the Premier League for Chelsea.

I understand. There are old and new players like Sterling, Chilwell, and Tiago Silva.  Would Guardiola or Zidane have turned Chelsea into stardust and won every game? Not believe it. To be honest, they may be cursed. Yes, cursed. Why wouldn't a team that invests so much? Nothing makes sense. Pochettino needs time

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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.

Perhaps they're not adapted enough yet, so the game isn't as good as I'd like it to be. But I agree, spending a billion and barely achieving anything is not the best thing to do. You can spend a lot less money and get results twice as good at least. I think they just bought the wrong players that can help them.....

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September 03, 2023, 06:28:00 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.
Even though what you said makes sense, I think things like this we also need to realize that adaptation is necessary. What Chelsea have done in the last 2 seasons is that they only reshuffle and reshuffle with the desire for instant results for them but in the end when the reshuffle continues and is done on a large scale things like this can also trigger them not being able to play and get good results because not all players can immediately fit into a new environment, so with this they must realize that not everything can be overcome by transferring players because no matter how much they spend money but do not want to process and only want instant results alone it is difficult to happen.
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Perhaps they're not adapted enough yet, so the game isn't as good as I'd like it to be. But I agree, spending a billion and barely achieving anything is not the best thing to do. You can spend a lot less money and get results twice as good at least. I think they just bought the wrong players that can help them.....
Exactly, if you spend alot of money on the right players that would adapt fast into the coaches system of play them they'll make a difference but when you even if you spend 2 billion on the wrong players with little experience then you'll end up wasting funds because they'll continue to yield poor results and I think Chelsea over spent this season on the wrong players that's not meant for the club.
 Well they've got a good coach and it's left for him to act fast and make fast changes to save his managerial career at Chelsea if ot he'll end up being sacked like others before him, if i were him I'll select the players I trust to adapt fast to my tactics and make up my starting 11 and bench the remaining and even give them more serious training sessions until they adapt,because lastly everyone would blame the manager for their poor form if he keeps featuring the flops in the team.
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September 03, 2023, 06:38:19 PM
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Had received a big offer from Al-Ittihad with a contract duration of 2 years but it seems that Sergio Ramos still has a big desire to play football in European competitions and today he has received an offer from Sevilla. But the deal with Sevilla has not been completed because there are still ongoing negotiations and he has actually also received an offer from the Turkish team. Now the final decision rests with Sergio Ramos whether he will return to La Liga or the Turkish league for this season and of course if he accepts the offer from Sevilla he will be facing more frequent encounters with his former team Real Madrid.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1698347860922699954

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I have heard of Manchester City to have plans to extend with Haaland even beyond 2027. They want to put an end to possible interests from European or Saudi Arabian teams next summer. They are planning a significant level of improvement in his weekly salary. This can really relieve them a little more.

Firstly I don't think that Haaland would like to go to Saudi Arabia this early. I think that he would act the same as Mbappe and turn down a possible offer. You know that it is said that there is a release clause to get active by 2024. It says he can be bought for €200m.

Therefore even if Manchester City improves his salary there might still be offers from top European teams. As far as I know Haaland might lean towards new adventures in the future so who knows what will happen then.

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September 03, 2023, 07:00:13 PM
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I think a club spending £450 million on new players is investing in talent. Ability doesn't arise out of nowhere. Pochettino isn't Harry Potter despite his exorbitant price. He can't magically win the Premier League for Chelsea.

I understand. There are old and new players like Sterling, Chilwell, and Tiago Silva.  Would Guardiola or Zidane have turned Chelsea into stardust and won every game? Not believe it. To be honest, they may be cursed. Yes, cursed. Why wouldn't a team that invests so much? Nothing makes sense. Pochettino needs time
After taking a closer and thorough look at Chelsea's situation, I realized one thing that they are not targeting any champions this season. The average age of a Blues player is around 23.1 and Thiago Silva is the oldest player in the squad. How Pochettino will win a trophy with a very dominant composition of young players, I think in the next two or three seasons Chelsea will be able to achieve it. In line with what you said Pochettino needs time, one or two seasons so that the squad is more mature in terms of age and experience.

The movement of the Chelsea transfer market has consumed a sizable budget, placing Pochettino's squad in fifth place as the most valuable club at the moment. I predict Chelsea will return to glory but not in the near future, it's natural because they are recruiting players for long-term projects.

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September 03, 2023, 07:17:33 PM
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I have heard of Manchester City to have plans to extend with Haaland even beyond 2027. They want to put an end to possible interests from European or Saudi Arabian teams next summer. They are planning a significant level of improvement in his weekly salary. This can really relieve them a little more.

Firstly I don't think that Haaland would like to go to Saudi Arabia this early. I think that he would act the same as Mbappe and turn down a possible offer. You know that it is said that there is a release clause to get active by 2024. It says he can be bought for €200m.

Therefore even if Manchester City improves his salary there might still be offers from top European teams. As far as I know Haaland might lean towards new adventures in the future so who knows what will happen then.
Any players considering a move to the Saudi league should be sure they have had a good long career at top flight clubs before moving there. The Saudi league is more for older retiring players who just want more money for less stress.
Salah too has been approached with an offer from the Saudi pro league side, but with his level of performance today, I think Liverpool would try to convince him to stay , just as Manchester city is doing with Haaland and PSG with Mbappe.

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September 03, 2023, 08:00:32 PM
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Premier League 2737 million euros
French League 900.64 million euros
Saudi League 846.57 million euros
Serie A 845.66 million euros
Bundesliga 767 million euros
La Liga 432 million euros
Damn, it is pretty good that the English Premier League is still on top of transfer statistics. I think that Saudi Arabia could spend more than EPL this summer, but it is nothing too close to EPL transfer window spending. Dude, EPL is EPL; no one could compete with him because EPL is one of the most famous football leagues in the world, and every player has dreams to play in EPL.
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Had received a big offer from Al-Ittihad with a contract duration of 2 years but it seems that Sergio Ramos still has a big desire to play football in European competitions and today he has received an offer from Sevilla. But the deal with Sevilla has not been completed because there are still ongoing negotiations and he has actually also received an offer from the Turkish team. Now the final decision rests with Sergio Ramos whether he will return to La Liga or the Turkish league for this season and of course if he accepts the offer from Sevilla he will be facing more frequent encounters with his former team Real Madrid.
Saudi Arabia's side will do quite well for Sergio Ramos if he can accept it. Here is the thing: he is 37 years old, and it seemed that he would not be able to perform at a higher level. This truth that he physically attributes is very good, but I think the decision to join Seville is not good for him because Seville could be expecting more from their performance. But he couldn't perform like he did in his prime. On the other hand, Inter Miami is good for him; there is no pressure on him, and he will be enjoying football like Messi.
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September 03, 2023, 08:11:31 PM
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Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.

Maybe I need to remind of the position Chelsea finished last season and where they are currently. Chelsea finished last season in the 12th places with lots of controversial discussion been one of the best club to dumb club now sitting in the same 12th place, isn't that too much to entertain at the early stage. They have signed and signed all the ingredients needed to cook whatever Pochettino needed, now it's time to get back work and make the club proud. Toad Boehly has patient though, I can't imagine myself been in his position since buying the club, nothing good has come out from old Trafford but losses, this needemw to end now.

Less I forget, if Chelsea were to conceded goals at this round of matches, it shouldn't have been from club like Nothingham forest that team is one of the worse teams in the Premier League and yet they lose to that club and the audacity is that they are leading Chelsea with 2 points, Chelsea need to change.

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September 03, 2023, 08:22:46 PM
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I think a club spending £450 million on new players is investing in talent. Ability doesn't arise out of nowhere. 

Chelsea problems was not just buying players; its because theres no pattern in their purchase; the board has invested in players with different profiles and talents. No world class or elite signing; and with 30 new players, every coach would always find it difficult to preach cohesion. I think Chelsea will target elite professionals in the January market to bail out the teams poor performance.

Do you agree>
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September 03, 2023, 08:31:34 PM
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The way every club is spending right now they should give instant results to be honest. Chelsea is spending a lot of money. I know that is not how it works. A coach definitely needs time to actually find the best tactics for any team. But with the amount of money they are spending, the team should be performing really well by default.
If the results are still bad, it means that it is not much different from last season's coach who brought Chelsea even further down. I think so far Mauricio Pochettino has also made a lot of decisions that are quite wrong, buying players that are not too dangerous or he has forgotten that competition in the Premier League is different from competition in France. Then when the policy of selling Chelsea players which was almost 95% did not guarantee that Chelsea would recover better. The fans demand that this season Chelsea must be able to finish in the top 5. But I think that's still not enough.

Mauricio Pochettino's decisions have been a talking point for sure. Some of the player acquisitions might not have been as impactful as hoped, and it's true that the Premire League is a unique and challenging environment compared to the French league. The styles of play, the intensity, and the level of competetion are all on a different scale.

As for the target of finshing in the top 5, it might be seen as the minimum requirement by some, but you're absolutely right to think that it's not enough. Chelsea has a rich tradition of competing at the highest level, and supporters naturally want to see the team back in contention for titles. It's all about aiming for the top and striving for excellence. Maybe we just hope again for upcoming season eh?

Chelsea are not so poor with little efforts and push they will be back at the top of the table. Pochetino decisions cam go right and left. Pochetino has experience it will as till take time because these players have not yet understand them self better.
If the right efforts is placed at the last minute of the league they will qualify for the next champions league.
Settling for less is what they do when they want to set goals to finish top five to play Europa, they should make sure to get to top four.
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September 03, 2023, 09:07:45 PM
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Just a correction the market in Saudi Arabia will end on the 7th of this month and not on the 15th.

So they can still buy Salah for example if Liverpool opens to the sell.
Liverpool are aware of that and Klopp is already pissed for seeing them closing the transfer market after European ones.
There is other names that might move to Saudi Arabia apparently like Wijnaldum, Marco Verrari, Saul Niguez, Paul Pogba and de Gea. We still have a whole week for drama Wink
I support Klopp when he said that if Saudi is to level up and be professional, they should follow a unified calendar.
They cannot keep their windows open longer than the English window and other European windows.
They are interested in Salah, if they eventually get him because of their extended window, how will Liverpool have a replacement of Salah.
I read that Saudi wants to nominate two clubs to play in the Champions League, if this should work out, they have to have similar calendar with Europe.

I think the chance for Salah to leave Liverpool in this season is not high and we know in Liverpool nobody wants to lose a palyer like Salah.
In the interview Klopp had with Sky Channel he started to make fun of the offer from Al Ittihad. He said his iPod, papers on his desk, and even his laptop never saw anything about Salah playing for Al Ittihad.
  

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September 03, 2023, 09:11:15 PM
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Premier League 2737 million euros
French League 900.64 million euros
Saudi League 846.57 million euros
Serie A 845.66 million euros
Bundesliga 767 million euros
La Liga 432 million euros

These numbers are going viral over the internet but it quite a wrong statement.

For example, Seria Spend 845 million. not really since they got over 1 billion in revenue from sales so basically they kept 150 million in their pocket.

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