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September 03, 2023, 02:36:13 PM
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The way every club is spending right now they should give instant results to be honest. Chelsea is spending a lot of money. I know that is not how it works. A coach definitely needs time to actually find the best tactics for any team. But with the amount of money they are spending, the team should be performing really well by default.
If the results are still bad, it means that it is not much different from last season's coach who brought Chelsea even further down. I think so far Mauricio Pochettino has also made a lot of decisions that are quite wrong, buying players that are not too dangerous or he has forgotten that competition in the Premier League is different from competition in France. Then when the policy of selling Chelsea players which was almost 95% did not guarantee that Chelsea would recover better. The fans demand that this season Chelsea must be able to finish in the top 5. But I think that's still not enough.

Mauricio Pochettino's decisions have been a talking point for sure. Some of the player acquisitions might not have been as impactful as hoped, and it's true that the Premire League is a unique and challenging environment compared to the French league. The styles of play, the intensity, and the level of competetion are all on a different scale.

As for the target of finshing in the top 5, it might be seen as the minimum requirement by some, but you're absolutely right to think that it's not enough. Chelsea has a rich tradition of competing at the highest level, and supporters naturally want to see the team back in contention for titles. It's all about aiming for the top and striving for excellence. Maybe we just hope again for upcoming season eh?

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September 03, 2023, 02:40:07 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.

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September 03, 2023, 03:02:24 PM
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Barcelona made a costly mistake this summer when they signed Joao Felix from Atletico Madrid, perhapes he always records incredible performance in Portugal. I would suggest them to raise additional academy players because Felix is unlikely to make an impact on his debut. Diego Simeone has ruled him out of his plans for this season because he is not adaptable to Los Colchoneros' style of play. Joao Felix was one of Atletico Madrid's few young talents before being loaned to Chelsea to gain experience. A footballer who received a red card on his Stamford Bridge debut. Félix is a competent frontline player, but he struggles to score goals in league games.


He hasn't even made his Barcelona debut yet. It would be so unfair, if we don't give him a chance. only then, we can assess it. IMO, Felix is ​​a player who can play in multiple positions. he is usually played on the left wing, right and even as a center forward. When he played in the Premier League, his performance did not shine, at the same time he played with the Chelsea squad which was experiencing a decline in overall performance.

After returning to Atletico, Simeone did not give him the opportunity to enter the main squad. Atletico want to sell him in the transfer window this summer, unfortunately not many clubs are willing to spend that much. with the exception of clubs from the Saudi Pro League. now, he is a Barcelona player. after Ansu fati was loaned to Brighton, Barcelona lacked players on the left wing despite still having Ferran Torres. Felix's presence could be an option for Xavi to play on the wing. because for the center forward, Barcelona still relies on Lewandowski.
well, to make sure whether he can play well with Barcelona, ​​we will find out after he has played match after match with La Blaugrana.

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September 03, 2023, 03:10:12 PM
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Personally I don't expect a instant turn around of Chelsea by Pochettino unfortunately many of their fans wanted an immediate impact and positive result having considered £450m spent on signing new players this season, I think Pochettino should be given enough time to rebuild the team of course they have some prospects and promising talented young players in their squad,

We didn't expect the impact to be immediately but atleast he should show the fans what he's trying to do instead of acting clueless, why make same mistakes multiple times and think he'll get a different results. We have wingers that we bought with money, why don't he play them instead of playing a wingback as a winger, chilwell mentality is about defending and not attacking and that's why he isn't doing anything with the ball when he attacks, I thought we just bought Cole Palmer from Manchester city, why wasn't he played on the wing instead of playing chilwell. We also have Mudrky that you can start so he begin to gain confidence, you can't be starting a player or substituting him into the game on time yet expect him to deliver whenever you need his service. Pochettino has all the time in the world but he need to start giving us a reason to trust him to make the right decisions.

I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent.

Liverpool are the reason why we bought Caicedo that costly and when players are overbought, they're under too much pressure to perform and that always affect the player. Chelsea was trying not to overpay for the player but Liverpool came in to attempt to hijack the deal and since the player rejected Liverpool, it only make sense we match the bill and sign him that costly. Chelsea has spent so much in this transfer window so Pochettino needs to get his shit together and start delivering results that'll be worth the money we have spent in the transfer window. It isn't like we don't have players because we do have players but the coach isn't utilizing them very well. If this continues then I think we have to start calling for the sack of Pochettino and get a better manager before it gets late and we'll be left with him for the rest of the season.

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September 03, 2023, 03:24:27 PM
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It is true that the European transfer window has closed, while the transfer window for the Saudi Pro Legue has not yet closed. The SPL still has time until September 20, this is what made Jurgen Klopp angry and commented on this policy. -snip-

Regulations that are different from those in Europe should have an impact on recruitment for the Saudi Arabian team. Since there is no transfer window in Europe anymore, even if the Saudis reached an agreement with the team and player, Its mean the club have to wait until the middle of the season or the winter transfer window? So, even coaches shouldn't have to worry, at least until mid-season in the winter transfer market.

I thought that now players can actually sign contracts with another club while the transfer window is closed. I am not sure, but I hope someone can confirm this.

As far as I know, a player can actually sign a new contract with a new club and keep playing for the club that he is currently playing for. And when the transfer window opens again, he will be able to join the new club. But I don’t know how this is going to work when for one club the transfer window is open and for another, it is closed.

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September 03, 2023, 03:32:21 PM
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Personally I don't expect a instant turn around of Chelsea by Pochettino unfortunately many of their fans wanted an immediate impact and positive result having considered £450m spent on signing new players this season, I think Pochettino should be given enough time to rebuild the team of course they have some prospects and promising talented young players in their squad, Sterling, Chilwell and Tiago Silva were the old and experience players in the squad therefore it's going to take time for the new signings to be integrated into team, of course they team isn't playing badly unfortunately luck isn't on their side in some of the matches they had played and their final third has been very wasteful in front of goal.
450 million euros just for this season, if you add it to last season, it is more than a thousand million euros that even exceeds the club's valuation based on this website, indeed its credibility is quite doubtful but at least Chelsea has become a club that is really wasteful in the last two seasons in the transfer market, and they only judge players from market value that's why they have never been constrained to continue to spend money on a player who shouldn't even be worth that much

This seasons, even though they managed to sell several of their players, this club was the one who wasted the most. Indeed, it will always take time to build a club from scratch but not by losing to a team that is not even considered will be able to beat them and it will happen in their own stadium, because if a team fails to get full points at home matches it will be even more difficult to do so in away matches.
It could be that Chelsea's defeat was not due to luck but the coach's lack of insight in changing strategy when they was behind.

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September 03, 2023, 03:33:28 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.

Chelsea might able to get a less price for him if the club was just trying to agree with the first offer by brighton. The mistake has been on the management of the club which is waiting too long to take the final decision.
The same thing was also happening when chelsea bought another player as well. Buying player is actually gambling. The player can perform good or bad depending on how convenient him in the club.
This is the bad habit owned by chelsea. The club is also feeling so hesitant in picking the new coach as well. It's affecting the performance from the club.
I remember when chelsea was changing its coach three times in a row last season.

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September 03, 2023, 03:53:37 PM
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I support Klopp when he said that if Saudi is to level up and be professional, they should follow a unified calendar.
They cannot keep their windows open longer than the English window and other European windows.
They are interested in Salah, if they eventually get him because of their extended window, how will Liverpool have a replacement of Salah.
I read that Saudi wants to nominate two clubs to play in the Champions League, if this should work out, they have to have similar calendar with Europe.

Turkish clubs see this period as an opportunity to buy players that the big clubs want to offload but can't find a buyer for. Moreover, it is possible to make a cheaper transfer during this period. Because a player who is not considered in the squad and will be left as a substitute creates both an unnecessary salary burden and unrest within the team because he does not play. The transfer season in Turkiye will end on the 15th of this month. I think this is an advantage for us. And most good transfers are made in this period. And the last days of the transfer are always more active. For example, Galatasaray are getting ready to sign a player who plays in the number 8 position. Cheesy

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September 03, 2023, 03:56:10 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.

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September 03, 2023, 04:04:58 PM
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I support Klopp when he said that if Saudi is to level up and be professional, they should follow a unified calendar.
They cannot keep their windows open longer than the English window and other European windows.
They are interested in Salah, if they eventually get him because of their extended window, how will Liverpool have a replacement of Salah.
I read that Saudi wants to nominate two clubs to play in the Champions League, if this should work out, they have to have similar calendar with Europe.
As long as Saudi Arabia aren't really serious to be nominated in Champions League, they can still create their own rules.

Klopp say this because he want to make sure Salah will not leave Liverpool, actually this will depend on Salah's decision and no one should intervent his own decision. Klopp don't want to play fair, he should convince Salah to make him stay, not giving pressure to other competitor.
I agree with you that Klopp efforts are as if they were just to keep Mohamed Salah at Liverpool because this player really has a big influence on Liverpool future this season, like a key player that the coach is holding on to stay with this club.
But actually as long as Mohamed Salah still has a contract with the club he cannot make his own decision to accept an offer from any club even though the Saudi Arabian club has made its own claim regarding this transfer but all decisions remain with the club management so Mohamed Salah will not act carelessly regarding the transfer.
The statement you made is the right statement in this case. Some Person said that it is Mohamed salah decision to choose if he will play for Saudia Arabia club, or he will remain in Liverpool. But that is not the truth. As long as the contract between Mohamed salah and Liverpool is still valid, Salah does not have decision of his own to make in this case.

And again, he can only make such a decision assuming it was put in the clause of his contracts. And I am not sure that such thing exist in  his contract. So Mohamed Salah moving to Saudi Arabia will depend on the decision of the club.

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September 03, 2023, 04:39:22 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.
Mauricio Pochettino has attempts to build new era for Chelsea that's why he was very active this summer to bought some players and i have counted it at least Chelsea buy 9 players in this transfer window and indeed not all transfer will be very effective because possibly some of transfer will be failed and so far only Nicolas Jackson who can adapt quickly with Pochettino strategy that he was being an Chelsea key player for forward lines and i have to says he has showing consistent performance and he was already scores goals several times this season

Some players still required to adapt just like Moises Caicedo that some of fans has been criticizing his performance and considers he is overpriced because he was made a mistakes when Chelsea lose from West Ham few weeks ago and Chelsea too a bit unlucky because their new player who transfered from Leipzig Christopher Nkunku is got long term injured

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September 03, 2023, 04:40:02 PM
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The statement you made is the right statement in this case. Some Person said that it is Mohamed salah decision to choose if he will play for Saudia Arabia club, or he will remain in Liverpool. But that is not the truth. As long as the contract between Mohamed salah and Liverpool is still valid, Salah does not have decision of his own to make in this case.

And again, he can only make such a decision assuming it was put in the clause of his contracts. And I am not sure that such thing exist in  his contract. So Mohamed Salah moving to Saudi Arabia will depend on the decision of the club.

^^ Good point. He does have a contract with Liverpool and as long as it doesn't expires he is likely gonna stay. Klopp decision is clear that they don't want to sell Salah and that seems like a case closed to me. No need to speculate it further. Saudi are making a desperate attempts to sign Salah with huge bids and try to tempt the club to agree to the move but so far it seems that Liverpool hasn't budge a bit regarding this. Question is at what value will Liverpool budge or will they continue decline any offers for the player.

I am kinda unsure here as there has been cases where clubs have changed their stance over a huge fee so possible that Liverpool also might change stance later on.

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Chelsea must have spent around 450 million euros for transfers this summer. However for now there are still serious issues to be seen. Their start to the season isn't impressive at all. They lost to Nottingham home today shockingly. Will we really see a similar scenario this season? Because they spent a lot of money last summer also but the result of it wasn't positive.

It is early to talk about such things of course. However I'm worried about their future games already as I have seen this bad scenario before.

I hope the team improve their effort as soon as possible. Nkunku's absence is felt so much. Jackson signing hasn't been beneficial for Chelsea yet.
Chelsea cannot save money in every transfer window. Where they also did crazy things in last season's transfer window and this continues in this summer's transfer window. I think they are taking a big gamble by buying players with high price tags but their abilities haven't been tested enough so far.

Chelsea even released some of their best players this season, such as Pulisic, where he showed impressive quality with AC Milan and also a number of other high-quality players who were released by Chelsea. Well, Chelsea have just reaped bad results after they were beaten in front of their supporters. It is quite difficult to imagine their fate this season, the players are increasingly under pressure and their new coach has not been successful enough so far.
Personally I don't expect a instant turn around of Chelsea by Pochettino unfortunately many of their fans wanted an immediate impact and positive result having considered £450m spent on signing new players this season, I think Pochettino should be given enough time to rebuild the team of course they have some prospects and promising talented young players in their squad, Sterling, Chilwell and Tiago Silva were the old and experience players in the squad therefore it's going to take time for the new signings to be integrated into team, of course they team isn't playing badly unfortunately luck isn't on their side in some of the matches they had played and their final third has been very wasteful in front of goal.
I think a club spending £450 million on new players is investing in talent. Ability doesn't arise out of nowhere. Pochettino isn't Harry Potter despite his exorbitant price. He can't magically win the Premier League for Chelsea.

I understand. There are old and new players like Sterling, Chilwell, and Tiago Silva.  Would Guardiola or Zidane have turned Chelsea into stardust and won every game? Not believe it. To be honest, they may be cursed. Yes, cursed. Why wouldn't a team that invests so much? Nothing makes sense. Pochettino needs time

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September 03, 2023, 06:21:43 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.

Perhaps they're not adapted enough yet, so the game isn't as good as I'd like it to be. But I agree, spending a billion and barely achieving anything is not the best thing to do. You can spend a lot less money and get results twice as good at least. I think they just bought the wrong players that can help them.....

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September 03, 2023, 06:28:00 PM
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I keep telling people the same thing; Chelsea overspent. When you buy a 30 million player for 60 million dollars then you are going to look like you spent a lot but you will not get that much return. For example Caicedo was worth 55 million euros by March or so last year, and now looks 75 million euro obviously because of the transfer, and they spent over 115 million euros for him. This is a dude that was 55 million euro just a few months ago, and they overspent 60 million on him. Their whole transfer window is filled with things like this, and because of that they got players that is way less valued than what they spent. It looks like they spent a lot to be good, but the results are based on what the players are valued, not what you spend on them. So, obviously results are not coming.
Actually it doesn't matter when Chelsea spend a lot of money to shop for players, as long as they make effective purchases, meaning that the players they bring in will make a big contribution to them. Meanwhile, what I see from Chelsea is that they buy players while the players do not make much of a difference to their game, especially in the last season. This season I see better than before, but I can't be sure if they will be able to contribute fully throughout the season or not.
The effectiveness of bringing in players must also be considered, I am talking about this not only for Chelsea, but for all clubs.
Even though what you said makes sense, I think things like this we also need to realize that adaptation is necessary. What Chelsea have done in the last 2 seasons is that they only reshuffle and reshuffle with the desire for instant results for them but in the end when the reshuffle continues and is done on a large scale things like this can also trigger them not being able to play and get good results because not all players can immediately fit into a new environment, so with this they must realize that not everything can be overcome by transferring players because no matter how much they spend money but do not want to process and only want instant results alone it is difficult to happen.

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September 03, 2023, 06:35:29 PM
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Perhaps they're not adapted enough yet, so the game isn't as good as I'd like it to be. But I agree, spending a billion and barely achieving anything is not the best thing to do. You can spend a lot less money and get results twice as good at least. I think they just bought the wrong players that can help them.....
Exactly, if you spend alot of money on the right players that would adapt fast into the coaches system of play them they'll make a difference but when you even if you spend 2 billion on the wrong players with little experience then you'll end up wasting funds because they'll continue to yield poor results and I think Chelsea over spent this season on the wrong players that's not meant for the club.
 Well they've got a good coach and it's left for him to act fast and make fast changes to save his managerial career at Chelsea if ot he'll end up being sacked like others before him, if i were him I'll select the players I trust to adapt fast to my tactics and make up my starting 11 and bench the remaining and even give them more serious training sessions until they adapt,because lastly everyone would blame the manager for their poor form if he keeps featuring the flops in the team.
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Had received a big offer from Al-Ittihad with a contract duration of 2 years but it seems that Sergio Ramos still has a big desire to play football in European competitions and today he has received an offer from Sevilla. But the deal with Sevilla has not been completed because there are still ongoing negotiations and he has actually also received an offer from the Turkish team. Now the final decision rests with Sergio Ramos whether he will return to La Liga or the Turkish league for this season and of course if he accepts the offer from Sevilla he will be facing more frequent encounters with his former team Real Madrid.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1698347860922699954

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September 03, 2023, 06:58:32 PM
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I have heard of Manchester City to have plans to extend with Haaland even beyond 2027. They want to put an end to possible interests from European or Saudi Arabian teams next summer. They are planning a significant level of improvement in his weekly salary. This can really relieve them a little more.

Firstly I don't think that Haaland would like to go to Saudi Arabia this early. I think that he would act the same as Mbappe and turn down a possible offer. You know that it is said that there is a release clause to get active by 2024. It says he can be bought for €200m.

Therefore even if Manchester City improves his salary there might still be offers from top European teams. As far as I know Haaland might lean towards new adventures in the future so who knows what will happen then.

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September 03, 2023, 07:00:13 PM
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I think a club spending £450 million on new players is investing in talent. Ability doesn't arise out of nowhere. Pochettino isn't Harry Potter despite his exorbitant price. He can't magically win the Premier League for Chelsea.

I understand. There are old and new players like Sterling, Chilwell, and Tiago Silva.  Would Guardiola or Zidane have turned Chelsea into stardust and won every game? Not believe it. To be honest, they may be cursed. Yes, cursed. Why wouldn't a team that invests so much? Nothing makes sense. Pochettino needs time
After taking a closer and thorough look at Chelsea's situation, I realized one thing that they are not targeting any champions this season. The average age of a Blues player is around 23.1 and Thiago Silva is the oldest player in the squad. How Pochettino will win a trophy with a very dominant composition of young players, I think in the next two or three seasons Chelsea will be able to achieve it. In line with what you said Pochettino needs time, one or two seasons so that the squad is more mature in terms of age and experience.

The movement of the Chelsea transfer market has consumed a sizable budget, placing Pochettino's squad in fifth place as the most valuable club at the moment. I predict Chelsea will return to glory but not in the near future, it's natural because they are recruiting players for long-term projects.

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September 03, 2023, 07:17:33 PM
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I have heard of Manchester City to have plans to extend with Haaland even beyond 2027. They want to put an end to possible interests from European or Saudi Arabian teams next summer. They are planning a significant level of improvement in his weekly salary. This can really relieve them a little more.

Firstly I don't think that Haaland would like to go to Saudi Arabia this early. I think that he would act the same as Mbappe and turn down a possible offer. You know that it is said that there is a release clause to get active by 2024. It says he can be bought for €200m.

Therefore even if Manchester City improves his salary there might still be offers from top European teams. As far as I know Haaland might lean towards new adventures in the future so who knows what will happen then.
Any players considering a move to the Saudi league should be sure they have had a good long career at top flight clubs before moving there. The Saudi league is more for older retiring players who just want more money for less stress.
Salah too has been approached with an offer from the Saudi pro league side, but with his level of performance today, I think Liverpool would try to convince him to stay , just as Manchester city is doing with Haaland and PSG with Mbappe.

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