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September 20, 2023, 03:08:19 PM
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During this transfer window, many rumors speculated that Barcelona would welcome Messi or Neymar back. But in reality, nothing unexpected happened. Their economy needs to be more vital to do that. Focusing on young players remains Xavi's top priority.
On the other hand, Xavi expects the squad to remain the same as last season when they successfully won the La Liga championship. Lewandowski will undoubtedly be an indispensable part of Barcelona. Still, if he loses form this season, this is a sign that Barcelona needs to spend a lot of money to find a striker to replace him.
Both Messi and Neymar are always looking for money, they don't care about their previous teams that make them to reach to their current position, only Ronaldo is still want to play in his old team.

Xavi is nothing to worry, they have Joao Felix that can replace Lewandowski and sooner or later the young star e.g. Vitor Roque will become a striker in Barcelona.

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September 20, 2023, 03:15:51 PM
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Certainly, this Manchester City squad are so organized and have the capability to dominate any league competition they find themselves this season. At this level of Manchester City’s squad, they only need to sign two or three players to solidify weak positions or replace outgoing players. Apart from this situations, I think they are an organized and compatible team and favourites to win the league trophy this season also.

I am yet to see where Manchester City are lacking a decent player to replace that position, perhaps when an outgoing player leaves, they will need to sign a new one to replace the departing one, but for now, they are simply too complete and are all performing admirably. Just look at De Bruyne's injury, they continue to play well as if no major player was missing from their squad.  Pep Guardiola is simply a good coach with exceptional managerial abilities. They will still win the league title or at least finish in second place this season.

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September 20, 2023, 03:17:31 PM
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In this transfer window, Barcelona spent less money than we could even expect to see from them, Among all the teams in the Chmapnis League Barcelona spent even less money on Young Boys, while maybe some people don't even know Young Boys but these teams spent more money than Barcelona.
They are trying really hard to have better financial situations however these teams still get good results.
Also, PSG is at the top of the list. 
That is something natural. Barcelona's current financial condition is better than before but they must still try to reduce spending to maintain stable finances and it seems that for this season they still want to focus on Xavi to reduce the salary burden and they prefer to find good players but their contracts are running out or with free agent status.

But until now, Xavi's decision is quite right because even though they are quite passive, they are still quite good from the current performance.
PSG at the top, I'm not too surprised by this Smiley

What they want from Xavi is to pull a rabbit out of the hat and he does it. I don't think Barcelona could have performed better than this, no matter which coach was in charge. I think Xavi is a great opportunity for Barça. Thanks to him, they also overcome financial difficulties. A few years later, when Barça reaches a very good and strong position, I hope Xavi will have a squad similar to Pep's City.
Most of the problems that occurred for Barcelona in previous seasons were when fans wanted too many quality players but did not want to know more when Barcelona's finances were bad because they hoped that with the arrival of expensive and new players for them especially after some of the golden era players left their performance dropped dramatically which made the fans of Barcelona want something more by looking for new expensive players and star players to improve their quality instantly even though it worsened their financial condition.

At the moment the work done by Xavi is very good and should be with the gradual improvement of Barcelona's condition now the fans must realize that they should not be too demanding because Barcelona is now back undergoing a return.
In fact it is just an exaggerated rumor without any real truth.
We all know how Barca's finances are currently and it is unlikely that Messi or Neymar will return to Barcelona, although nothing is impossible, but these two players will experience old age before retiring, they want to get a big salary at a club that is willing to make a high offer so it is impossible. if you return to this club.
I think Barca doesn't need these two star players because currently Xavi has very solid players and is able to perform when he has these star players and of course Lewandowski and other young players have managed to achieve success in securing every match.

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September 20, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
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I think Julian Nagelsmann can really be a good choice for Germany national team.

Because first of all I believe that it is the best for national teams to have coaches who have the same nationality. This is the best way for a national team to be more successful I think. Because this kind of a coach would know the players much better above all else. There wouldn't be any issue about communication as well. I think Nagelsmann isn't a bad coach either. This team really deserve to be more successful with a player pool like this.
Julian Nagelsmann can really have problems in the German national team if he does not trace what was the problem with him and the Bayern Munich was. Even if the public does not understand what really happened between Nagelsmann and Bayern Munich,  I believe that Nagelsmann himself knows what happened to him.
My guess is that any coach that has issues with Bayern Munich may likely have issues with the German national team.
I really understand where you're coming from. In German sport, Bayern Munich is pretty much the standard. If Nagelsmann had a problem with them, it's hard not to wonder, "What's going on?" But let me add my two cents: running a club and running a national team are not the same thing. After Nagelsmann's fight with Bayern, I don't think it should cloud his chances of making the German national team. What's the point if he didn't get the scorer he wanted to replace Lewandowski? I think we should be patient with him when it comes to the national team, even though what happened with Bayern is still a secret. Politics in a club and patriotism are not the same thing

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September 20, 2023, 04:05:21 PM
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I've said before that changing coaches too soon won't help them improve their performance and that's still true now.
Todd should be aware that the number of times he changed coaches during his tenure at Chelsea but the results remained the same and nothing has changed in this regard so removing Pochettino at this time is also not the right answer to improve the club.

Charging coach isn't good but that's the strategy Chelsea has been using for the past 20 years and  it has been working for them. In the tenure of the past owner, we changed manager whenever things weren't working for us and the new manager always delivered so probably that's what Todd Boehly is going with changing managers. He really need to rethink because probably changing managers isn't going to be what will work for him, he should try giving one manager enough time to try to fix things. The previous managers before Pochettino weren't qualified managers therefore sacking them was understandable but he shouldn't do the same to Pochettino but give him time to prove his worth.

That strategy may have worked when Roman Abramovich owned Chelsea but not anymore. Since Tuchel’s departure the club has faced huge down fall in performance even more than what seemed to be the main problem. Chelsea made a huge mistake letting almost all the experienced players leave the club in one transfer window leaving just the new incomings who are yet to understand the league and the tensity to play every premier league game. What did they expect would happen?
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September 20, 2023, 04:22:42 PM
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Both Messi and Neymar are always looking for money, they don't care about their previous teams that make them to reach to their current position, only Ronaldo is still want to play in his old team.

Xavi is nothing to worry, they have Joao Felix that can replace Lewandowski and sooner or later the young star e.g. Vitor Roque will become a striker in Barcelona.
Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.

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September 20, 2023, 05:47:56 PM
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.
Although it is not impossible, re-signing Neymar or Messi is not a wise policy. In line with you, an expensive salary will not be commensurate with the contribution he can make to the club because he is no longer young. It's better to take advantage of potential young players from the academy, give them playing minutes and orbit them like Lamine Yamal. Like Ronaldo, there is actually no drama in his move, Ronaldo demands more playing minutes and doesn't like to be left on the bench. Ten Hag does not want to take a big risk by always including him in the XI if there is minimal contribution, considering the age factor and the competitiveness of the EPL.

Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.

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September 20, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
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Vitor Roque is a young player from Brazil who is starting to show excellent playing abilities and skills as a striker and while playing with Club Athletico Paranaense he became one of the young players who produced quite a lot of goals and wins.
It is not surprising that Barcelona is trying hard to really be able to recruit Vitor Roque and prepare all the aspects needed one of which is the budget for transfers and salaries.
Yes maybe winning all the matches in the Champions League could help Barcelona collect some money and immediately bring in Vitor Roque because this recruitment takes up quite a large budget or there is another way by selling several players that they don't contribute to the team but by Selling players to bring in Vitor Roque looks like Xavi will definitely not do that.
That would not be a bad transfer to be fair, but that's a transfer that is not guaranteed success neither. They have to get him, play him in a few games, like maybe 10, and then see if they are going to be good or not. I believe that they are doing fine so far and that has to be something that they need to care about.

I know that it is not going to be an important case, we could end up with a situation where they could get him, pay for him, even with all their financial troubles, and then end up not playing him if he turns out to be good. All their players they had hopes for, fati, dembele and such, all went away after they didn't get what they wanted out of them so one more bad transfer wouldn't be the end of them.

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September 20, 2023, 07:27:58 PM
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.

Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently.

However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona.  Grin  Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious.  Smiley

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September 20, 2023, 07:28:21 PM
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That strategy may have worked when Roman Abramovich owned Chelsea but not anymore. Since Tuchel’s departure the club has faced huge down fall in performance even more than what seemed to be the main problem. Chelsea made a huge mistake letting almost all the experienced players leave the club in one transfer window leaving just the new incomings who are yet to understand the league and the tensity to play every premier league game. What did they expect would happen?

You can forget about the times of Abramovich - then too many different things coincided that simply cannot happen now. The greatest coach + huge investments + not so much competition + Chelsea rose from the bottom so even less progress would be a rise for them. Now you can spend a billion and remain at the same level because competitors spend comparable amounts. But I agree that what has been happening in Chelsea over the last two seasons is simply anomalous.

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September 20, 2023, 07:52:31 PM
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.

Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently.

However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona.  Grin  Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious.  Smiley

Even though the opponent in this match was not the strongest, but the result is really very good, especially it can help to raise their competitive spirit. Despite the problems with finances, the transfer window was conducted decently, and most importantly - productively, because you can see that it went in their favour, they spent minimum money and got maximum return

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September 20, 2023, 08:18:21 PM
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Vitor Roque is a young player from Brazil who is starting to show excellent playing abilities and skills as a striker and while playing with Club Athletico Paranaense he became one of the young players who produced quite a lot of goals and wins.
It is not surprising that Barcelona is trying hard to really be able to recruit Vitor Roque and prepare all the aspects needed one of which is the budget for transfers and salaries.
Yes maybe winning all the matches in the Champions League could help Barcelona collect some money and immediately bring in Vitor Roque because this recruitment takes up quite a large budget or there is another way by selling several players that they don't contribute to the team but by Selling players to bring in Vitor Roque looks like Xavi will definitely not do that.

If I'm not mistaken, Barcelona have reached an agreement for Vitor Roque from Athletico Paranaense in the winter of 2024. In fact, this news has been reported for quite some time by either Romano or several other newspapers. Considering Barcelona's financial condition in the last summer transfer window was not possible, in the end Vitor Roque is scheduled to join Barcelona in the next winter window.

Well, for the latest news to date, I no longer follow every development. However, if you remember the news regarding the striker from Paranaense, the player has been reported to be part of Barcelona. However, it is rumored that Paranaense still needs his services until the time they determine. So, it looks like this player will join Barcelona in 2024. Vitor Roque plays as a center forward, he could also be prepared as Lewandowski's successor. but in the future, he will only be played as a second layer player.  Or, he will be rotated to explore his abilities. What is certain is that this player is claimed to have quite special talents. His presence at Barcelona will add to the list of names of young players that Barcelona will project in the future.

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September 20, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
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During this transfer window, many rumors speculated that Barcelona would welcome Messi or Neymar back. But in reality, nothing unexpected happened. Their economy needs to be more vital to do that. Focusing on young players remains Xavi's top priority.
On the other hand, Xavi expects the squad to remain the same as last season when they successfully won the La Liga championship. Lewandowski will undoubtedly be an indispensable part of Barcelona. Still, if he loses form this season, this is a sign that Barcelona needs to spend a lot of money to find a striker to replace him.
Both Messi and Neymar are always looking for money, they don't care about their previous teams that make them to reach to their current position, only Ronaldo is still want to play in his old team.

Xavi is nothing to worry, they have Joao Felix that can replace Lewandowski and sooner or later the young star e.g. Vitor Roque will become a striker in Barcelona.
I don't think so, because in this case I still feel that if Barcelona had solid finances and didn't have financial problems like they have in the last few seasons they would definitely try to bring Messi back but because they are aware that something like that is impossible so Like it or not, they have to be reluctant, especially with the conditions of Messi's salary and price, it is clear that it will be very difficult for Barcelona if they continue to impose their will.

Currently they have gone their own way and I don't think we need to discuss things like this anymore because in the end they have become the past and now Barcelona only has to focus on returning to performance and improving financial management so that it doesn't get destroyed like the previous 2 seasons.

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September 20, 2023, 08:28:00 PM
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Manchester City has definitely been very careful about spending money. They have brought in the players that they actually need. They did not overspend at all. Well maybe we can say something different about Jack Grealish. I do not think he deserved that big of a transfer money. But I guess that’s okay. Considering how much money people are spending right now for players. They have actually brought in very good results for the amount of money that they have spent so far. I don’t think not a lot of clubs can actually say that. Especially not Manchester United. They have spent stupid money for a lot of players that did not give them almost anything.

At first I thought the same and then yes, it was because all those prices for any players of any quality were suffering from inflation literally. The prices were irrational and nobody could understand them. It was about that time when Grealish was bought and unless players have a clause that they can leave the club for a fixed sum of money like De Bruyne and Haaland I think, Manchester City is a rich club and the others make them pay for it. But still the difference between Manchester City and Chelsea is that Grealish became an essential player for the team. He is important to the whole game and perfectly fits into the system that Guardiola wants. If you see it that way, Manchester City spends 100 million once and it is good. Chelsea spends 70 million four times and none of the players delivers.

The inflation has definitely got to the people. But sometimes I wonder if inflation actually gets to those people. because they already have enough money to spend on anything.  But at the same time, I also think that inflation does hit them a lot. Because the way the price of players are increasing right now, it is surely causing a lot of problems. Now the problem is they actually try to bring him expecting a huge performance from him. But he really did not perform that well to be honest.

Actually, the trend of spending too much money for a player started with Manchester United in my opinion. They were spending a lot of money for players which did not actually deserve that much money to be spent on them. And to be fair, a club which is as rich as Manchester City is definitely going to spend a lot of money to bring players. It is very possible that one time a certain player is not going to perform as they expect him to. But after that, Manchester City sprinted money, very carefully.

But what you are referring to is not an inflationary environment because production costs are rising like electricity or fossile energies. It is because the Saudi Professional League is introducing surreal price levels for player transfers and salaries. This is one major driver of the escalation of transfer fees that we have recently seen. The competition from Saudi Arabia and other countries from around that area like Qatar is real regarding transfer price levels and salaries. It provides players with a new option to go even harder in negotiations. If they don't get what they want in Europe, there is always this surreal emergency exit that makes them so much money that they can't believe it themselves.

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September 20, 2023, 08:28:50 PM
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Although it is not impossible, re-signing Neymar or Messi is not a wise policy. In line with you, an expensive salary will not be commensurate with the contribution he can make to the club because he is no longer young. It's better to take advantage of potential young players from the academy, give them playing minutes and orbit them like Lamine Yamal. Like Ronaldo, there is actually no drama in his move, Ronaldo demands more playing minutes and doesn't like to be left on the bench. Ten Hag does not want to take a big risk by always including him in the XI if there is minimal contribution, considering the age factor and the competitiveness of the EPL.

Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.

Is better for them to sign young players than to sign Neymar or Messi in Barcelona again, because that is not possible because there are already old players they can't confirm like before again, they have already started losing form just leave them they should continue playing in the Saudi league, am very sure even Barcelona needs Messi back, definitely they need to sell many of their players so that they can pay him salary, because it is not small money they will look for before signing him, Joao Felix is a very good player who is giving his all for the club. I believe Xavi will try to make him a permanent member of the club because he is assisting the club very well with cancelo, Barcelona is very strong this season scoring many goals in the league.

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September 20, 2023, 08:31:53 PM
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That strategy may have worked when Roman Abramovich owned Chelsea but not anymore. Since Tuchel’s departure the club has faced huge down fall in performance even more than what seemed to be the main problem. Chelsea made a huge mistake letting almost all the experienced players leave the club in one transfer window leaving just the new incomings who are yet to understand the league and the tensity to play every premier league game. What did they expect would happen?

No mistakes made letting dead woods leaving the club. Players like Loftus Cheek, Kai Havertz, Ziyech but not Ngolo Kante. Chelsea did a good job letting them go. It was part of the rebuild. They have brought in and assembled good quality youngin who will thrive for trophies in the next years ahead. Just the way they introduced Jose Mourinho years before, they'll need to do same now.

They have replaced almost every player, but they lack someone to score goals. Who also is not backing Mauricio Pochetino a hundred percent for a long term job with Chelsea?
I'm not a fan, but then, Chelsea should take good look at the manager and access his potentials of leading them to a god first four sitting.

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September 20, 2023, 08:39:38 PM
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Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.
City want to do away with Joao Cancelo, just the same way Athletico Madrid want to sell Joao Felix, but the problem is the wages in their contract and the signing fee that the two clubs would request. Barcelona are in a financial mess, thus i don't think they can cover all these and make it work, even if they release a few players. There is a pretty high probability that the both players will return to their clubs after the loan spell is over, and from there the club will prolly work on their exit to clubs that can afford them.
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September 20, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
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Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.
City want to do away with Joao Cancelo, just the same way Athletico Madrid want to sell Joao Felix, but the problem is the wages in their contract and the signing fee that the two clubs would request. Barcelona are in a financial mess, thus i don't think they can cover all these and make it work, even if they release a few players. There is a pretty high probability that the both players will return to their clubs after the loan spell is over, and from there the club will prolly work on their exit to clubs that can afford them.

The thing between Manchester City and Joao Cancelo was really interesting by the way. Everything was going on fine actually but suddenly the relationship between became much worse. I was very surprised when I first hear about his being loaned to Bayern Munich. Because his performance was really good until then.

Now he has been loaned to Barcelona. I'm feeling sure that he would be sold as well if there is any team to make an offer. It must be some in-team problem between Cancelo and Manchester City. I would have liked to see him playing for them as he is a really talented player.

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September 20, 2023, 09:05:48 PM
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Early missteps have left everything in disarray until now and it is difficult to anticipate when their problems are too widespread, especially when the steps taken to minimise the destruction have made the club's condition even worse.
The conditions of Chelsea and Manchester United are quite similar in this regard but the difference is when Manchester United with Ten Hag's considerable ego and Chelsea with problems from the owner who was too eager at the beginning when he got Chelsea.
Currently every step taken will definitely reap the spotlight and indeed when there is even the slightest mistake especially with the destruction of performance then criticism will definitely occur.

I don’t even rate the players at Chelsea so much, they are young and they still lack experience amongst them. Most of the players in the club currently are new to the league and still battling to settle in with the league’s intensity and high competitive playing style.

Chelsea made a huge mistake letting all the experienced players in the team leave in one transfer window.
Pochettino, who has experience in the EPL, should realise that when young players are released without any senior players, it will clearly make them chaotic.
The individual quality of some of the players at Chelsea even though they are young but I think some of them are very good it's just that when no one can be used as a leader on the field then it becomes difficult.
On the other hand, some of the players brought also do not know how to be in the EPL because this is their first time in a very intense competition so their performance will obviously tend to decline and this is shown by Enzo or Mudryk.

This is one of the consequences of the initial mistake that indeed made their performance even more chaotic as I said before so for now it looks like Chelsea will still be very difficult to fix this quickly because it takes a long time to change their performance for the better now.

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September 20, 2023, 10:10:16 PM
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Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently.

However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona.  Grin  Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious.  Smiley

The lad is definitely enjoying is time at Barcelona and this is the player we all knew from his benfica days. If you ask me I would put it out that I am not that surprised with his form because he had it. It was just a the club he went to that doesn’t fit his profile. Atletico Madrid is a club that plays defensively and flourishes on counter attack, the pattern of play by Simeone’s men require players that have such energy in them to track back and move forward when needed but we all know that Felix isn’t at that level physically had that is why he had a fell out with Simeone.

I see Barcelona signing him permanently if he continues with his recent form. Although Barcelona are having trouble with financial Fair play they would pull something out. For the past three seasons now Barcelona have been in this situation and have miraculously been buying players which I think is fishy

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