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September 20, 2023, 05:47:56 PM
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.
Although it is not impossible, re-signing Neymar or Messi is not a wise policy. In line with you, an expensive salary will not be commensurate with the contribution he can make to the club because he is no longer young. It's better to take advantage of potential young players from the academy, give them playing minutes and orbit them like Lamine Yamal. Like Ronaldo, there is actually no drama in his move, Ronaldo demands more playing minutes and doesn't like to be left on the bench. Ten Hag does not want to take a big risk by always including him in the XI if there is minimal contribution, considering the age factor and the competitiveness of the EPL.

Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.

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September 20, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
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Vitor Roque is a young player from Brazil who is starting to show excellent playing abilities and skills as a striker and while playing with Club Athletico Paranaense he became one of the young players who produced quite a lot of goals and wins.
It is not surprising that Barcelona is trying hard to really be able to recruit Vitor Roque and prepare all the aspects needed one of which is the budget for transfers and salaries.
Yes maybe winning all the matches in the Champions League could help Barcelona collect some money and immediately bring in Vitor Roque because this recruitment takes up quite a large budget or there is another way by selling several players that they don't contribute to the team but by Selling players to bring in Vitor Roque looks like Xavi will definitely not do that.
That would not be a bad transfer to be fair, but that's a transfer that is not guaranteed success neither. They have to get him, play him in a few games, like maybe 10, and then see if they are going to be good or not. I believe that they are doing fine so far and that has to be something that they need to care about.

I know that it is not going to be an important case, we could end up with a situation where they could get him, pay for him, even with all their financial troubles, and then end up not playing him if he turns out to be good. All their players they had hopes for, fati, dembele and such, all went away after they didn't get what they wanted out of them so one more bad transfer wouldn't be the end of them.

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September 20, 2023, 07:27:58 PM
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.

Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently.

However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona.  Grin  Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious.  Smiley

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September 20, 2023, 07:28:21 PM
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That strategy may have worked when Roman Abramovich owned Chelsea but not anymore. Since Tuchel’s departure the club has faced huge down fall in performance even more than what seemed to be the main problem. Chelsea made a huge mistake letting almost all the experienced players leave the club in one transfer window leaving just the new incomings who are yet to understand the league and the tensity to play every premier league game. What did they expect would happen?

You can forget about the times of Abramovich - then too many different things coincided that simply cannot happen now. The greatest coach + huge investments + not so much competition + Chelsea rose from the bottom so even less progress would be a rise for them. Now you can spend a billion and remain at the same level because competitors spend comparable amounts. But I agree that what has been happening in Chelsea over the last two seasons is simply anomalous.

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September 20, 2023, 07:52:31 PM
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Barcelona is also experiencing a financial crisis so it is impossible to return Messi or Neymar to his old club, Barcelona will not be able to afford on the one hand their salaries are small there and they are old, what to expect in these two former Barcelona players who will soon retire.

Ronaldo had a conflict with Manchester United so he was dropped from the squad. But he seems happy now to be in the Arab League with a lot of money. LOL

Joao Felix is a loan player, if Atletico Madrid put a high price tag it seems Barcelona will not dare to take it, just rely on young players from the academy, but now they are not in a player crisis so stay relaxed for Xavi.

Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently.

However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona.  Grin  Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious.  Smiley

Even though the opponent in this match was not the strongest, but the result is really very good, especially it can help to raise their competitive spirit. Despite the problems with finances, the transfer window was conducted decently, and most importantly - productively, because you can see that it went in their favour, they spent minimum money and got maximum return

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September 20, 2023, 08:18:21 PM
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Vitor Roque is a young player from Brazil who is starting to show excellent playing abilities and skills as a striker and while playing with Club Athletico Paranaense he became one of the young players who produced quite a lot of goals and wins.
It is not surprising that Barcelona is trying hard to really be able to recruit Vitor Roque and prepare all the aspects needed one of which is the budget for transfers and salaries.
Yes maybe winning all the matches in the Champions League could help Barcelona collect some money and immediately bring in Vitor Roque because this recruitment takes up quite a large budget or there is another way by selling several players that they don't contribute to the team but by Selling players to bring in Vitor Roque looks like Xavi will definitely not do that.

If I'm not mistaken, Barcelona have reached an agreement for Vitor Roque from Athletico Paranaense in the winter of 2024. In fact, this news has been reported for quite some time by either Romano or several other newspapers. Considering Barcelona's financial condition in the last summer transfer window was not possible, in the end Vitor Roque is scheduled to join Barcelona in the next winter window.

Well, for the latest news to date, I no longer follow every development. However, if you remember the news regarding the striker from Paranaense, the player has been reported to be part of Barcelona. However, it is rumored that Paranaense still needs his services until the time they determine. So, it looks like this player will join Barcelona in 2024. Vitor Roque plays as a center forward, he could also be prepared as Lewandowski's successor. but in the future, he will only be played as a second layer player.  Or, he will be rotated to explore his abilities. What is certain is that this player is claimed to have quite special talents. His presence at Barcelona will add to the list of names of young players that Barcelona will project in the future.

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September 20, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
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During this transfer window, many rumors speculated that Barcelona would welcome Messi or Neymar back. But in reality, nothing unexpected happened. Their economy needs to be more vital to do that. Focusing on young players remains Xavi's top priority.
On the other hand, Xavi expects the squad to remain the same as last season when they successfully won the La Liga championship. Lewandowski will undoubtedly be an indispensable part of Barcelona. Still, if he loses form this season, this is a sign that Barcelona needs to spend a lot of money to find a striker to replace him.
Both Messi and Neymar are always looking for money, they don't care about their previous teams that make them to reach to their current position, only Ronaldo is still want to play in his old team.

Xavi is nothing to worry, they have Joao Felix that can replace Lewandowski and sooner or later the young star e.g. Vitor Roque will become a striker in Barcelona.
I don't think so, because in this case I still feel that if Barcelona had solid finances and didn't have financial problems like they have in the last few seasons they would definitely try to bring Messi back but because they are aware that something like that is impossible so Like it or not, they have to be reluctant, especially with the conditions of Messi's salary and price, it is clear that it will be very difficult for Barcelona if they continue to impose their will.

Currently they have gone their own way and I don't think we need to discuss things like this anymore because in the end they have become the past and now Barcelona only has to focus on returning to performance and improving financial management so that it doesn't get destroyed like the previous 2 seasons.

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September 20, 2023, 08:28:00 PM
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Manchester City has definitely been very careful about spending money. They have brought in the players that they actually need. They did not overspend at all. Well maybe we can say something different about Jack Grealish. I do not think he deserved that big of a transfer money. But I guess that’s okay. Considering how much money people are spending right now for players. They have actually brought in very good results for the amount of money that they have spent so far. I don’t think not a lot of clubs can actually say that. Especially not Manchester United. They have spent stupid money for a lot of players that did not give them almost anything.

At first I thought the same and then yes, it was because all those prices for any players of any quality were suffering from inflation literally. The prices were irrational and nobody could understand them. It was about that time when Grealish was bought and unless players have a clause that they can leave the club for a fixed sum of money like De Bruyne and Haaland I think, Manchester City is a rich club and the others make them pay for it. But still the difference between Manchester City and Chelsea is that Grealish became an essential player for the team. He is important to the whole game and perfectly fits into the system that Guardiola wants. If you see it that way, Manchester City spends 100 million once and it is good. Chelsea spends 70 million four times and none of the players delivers.

The inflation has definitely got to the people. But sometimes I wonder if inflation actually gets to those people. because they already have enough money to spend on anything.  But at the same time, I also think that inflation does hit them a lot. Because the way the price of players are increasing right now, it is surely causing a lot of problems. Now the problem is they actually try to bring him expecting a huge performance from him. But he really did not perform that well to be honest.

Actually, the trend of spending too much money for a player started with Manchester United in my opinion. They were spending a lot of money for players which did not actually deserve that much money to be spent on them. And to be fair, a club which is as rich as Manchester City is definitely going to spend a lot of money to bring players. It is very possible that one time a certain player is not going to perform as they expect him to. But after that, Manchester City sprinted money, very carefully.

But what you are referring to is not an inflationary environment because production costs are rising like electricity or fossile energies. It is because the Saudi Professional League is introducing surreal price levels for player transfers and salaries. This is one major driver of the escalation of transfer fees that we have recently seen. The competition from Saudi Arabia and other countries from around that area like Qatar is real regarding transfer price levels and salaries. It provides players with a new option to go even harder in negotiations. If they don't get what they want in Europe, there is always this surreal emergency exit that makes them so much money that they can't believe it themselves.

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September 20, 2023, 08:28:50 PM
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Although it is not impossible, re-signing Neymar or Messi is not a wise policy. In line with you, an expensive salary will not be commensurate with the contribution he can make to the club because he is no longer young. It's better to take advantage of potential young players from the academy, give them playing minutes and orbit them like Lamine Yamal. Like Ronaldo, there is actually no drama in his move, Ronaldo demands more playing minutes and doesn't like to be left on the bench. Ten Hag does not want to take a big risk by always including him in the XI if there is minimal contribution, considering the age factor and the competitiveness of the EPL.

Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.

Is better for them to sign young players than to sign Neymar or Messi in Barcelona again, because that is not possible because there are already old players they can't confirm like before again, they have already started losing form just leave them they should continue playing in the Saudi league, am very sure even Barcelona needs Messi back, definitely they need to sell many of their players so that they can pay him salary, because it is not small money they will look for before signing him, Joao Felix is a very good player who is giving his all for the club. I believe Xavi will try to make him a permanent member of the club because he is assisting the club very well with cancelo, Barcelona is very strong this season scoring many goals in the league.

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September 20, 2023, 08:31:53 PM
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That strategy may have worked when Roman Abramovich owned Chelsea but not anymore. Since Tuchel’s departure the club has faced huge down fall in performance even more than what seemed to be the main problem. Chelsea made a huge mistake letting almost all the experienced players leave the club in one transfer window leaving just the new incomings who are yet to understand the league and the tensity to play every premier league game. What did they expect would happen?

No mistakes made letting dead woods leaving the club. Players like Loftus Cheek, Kai Havertz, Ziyech but not Ngolo Kante. Chelsea did a good job letting them go. It was part of the rebuild. They have brought in and assembled good quality youngin who will thrive for trophies in the next years ahead. Just the way they introduced Jose Mourinho years before, they'll need to do same now.

They have replaced almost every player, but they lack someone to score goals. Who also is not backing Mauricio Pochetino a hundred percent for a long term job with Chelsea?
I'm not a fan, but then, Chelsea should take good look at the manager and access his potentials of leading them to a god first four sitting.

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September 20, 2023, 08:39:38 PM
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Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.
City want to do away with Joao Cancelo, just the same way Athletico Madrid want to sell Joao Felix, but the problem is the wages in their contract and the signing fee that the two clubs would request. Barcelona are in a financial mess, thus i don't think they can cover all these and make it work, even if they release a few players. There is a pretty high probability that the both players will return to their clubs after the loan spell is over, and from there the club will prolly work on their exit to clubs that can afford them.

 
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September 20, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
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Regarding Joao Felix and Cancelo, if they can be consistent with their performance, it is very likely that Xavi will try to make them permanent at the end of the season. It could be that by releasing several other players, it will cover the costs of recruiting both or one of them.
City want to do away with Joao Cancelo, just the same way Athletico Madrid want to sell Joao Felix, but the problem is the wages in their contract and the signing fee that the two clubs would request. Barcelona are in a financial mess, thus i don't think they can cover all these and make it work, even if they release a few players. There is a pretty high probability that the both players will return to their clubs after the loan spell is over, and from there the club will prolly work on their exit to clubs that can afford them.

The thing between Manchester City and Joao Cancelo was really interesting by the way. Everything was going on fine actually but suddenly the relationship between became much worse. I was very surprised when I first hear about his being loaned to Bayern Munich. Because his performance was really good until then.

Now he has been loaned to Barcelona. I'm feeling sure that he would be sold as well if there is any team to make an offer. It must be some in-team problem between Cancelo and Manchester City. I would have liked to see him playing for them as he is a really talented player.

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September 20, 2023, 09:05:48 PM
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Early missteps have left everything in disarray until now and it is difficult to anticipate when their problems are too widespread, especially when the steps taken to minimise the destruction have made the club's condition even worse.
The conditions of Chelsea and Manchester United are quite similar in this regard but the difference is when Manchester United with Ten Hag's considerable ego and Chelsea with problems from the owner who was too eager at the beginning when he got Chelsea.
Currently every step taken will definitely reap the spotlight and indeed when there is even the slightest mistake especially with the destruction of performance then criticism will definitely occur.

I don’t even rate the players at Chelsea so much, they are young and they still lack experience amongst them. Most of the players in the club currently are new to the league and still battling to settle in with the league’s intensity and high competitive playing style.

Chelsea made a huge mistake letting all the experienced players in the team leave in one transfer window.
Pochettino, who has experience in the EPL, should realise that when young players are released without any senior players, it will clearly make them chaotic.
The individual quality of some of the players at Chelsea even though they are young but I think some of them are very good it's just that when no one can be used as a leader on the field then it becomes difficult.
On the other hand, some of the players brought also do not know how to be in the EPL because this is their first time in a very intense competition so their performance will obviously tend to decline and this is shown by Enzo or Mudryk.

This is one of the consequences of the initial mistake that indeed made their performance even more chaotic as I said before so for now it looks like Chelsea will still be very difficult to fix this quickly because it takes a long time to change their performance for the better now.

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September 20, 2023, 10:10:16 PM
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Barcelona have issues with La Liga FFP rules unfortunately so they aren't able to spend a lot of money for transfers for now. This was why they couldn't sign Joao Felix permanently.

However this is still not a problem for Barcelona currently. Because their current performance level is quite satisfying. They have just destroyed Antwerp in the Champions League by a big gap. I felt like we were in good old days of Barcelona.  Grin  Felix is really impressive since he joined them. He is playing for his dream team of course. I have never seen him this ambitious.  Smiley

The lad is definitely enjoying is time at Barcelona and this is the player we all knew from his benfica days. If you ask me I would put it out that I am not that surprised with his form because he had it. It was just a the club he went to that doesn’t fit his profile. Atletico Madrid is a club that plays defensively and flourishes on counter attack, the pattern of play by Simeone’s men require players that have such energy in them to track back and move forward when needed but we all know that Felix isn’t at that level physically had that is why he had a fell out with Simeone.

I see Barcelona signing him permanently if he continues with his recent form. Although Barcelona are having trouble with financial Fair play they would pull something out. For the past three seasons now Barcelona have been in this situation and have miraculously been buying players which I think is fishy

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September 20, 2023, 10:25:14 PM
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The lad is definitely enjoying is time at Barcelona and this is the player we all knew from his benfica days. If you ask me I would put it out that I am not that surprised with his form because he had it. It was just a the club he went to that doesn’t fit his profile. Atletico Madrid is a club that plays defensively and flourishes on counter attack, the pattern of play by Simeone’s men require players that have such energy in them to track back and move forward when needed but we all know that Felix isn’t at that level physically had that is why he had a fell out with Simeone.

I see Barcelona signing him permanently if he continues with his recent form. Although Barcelona are having trouble with financial Fair play they would pull something out. For the past three seasons now Barcelona have been in this situation and have miraculously been buying players which I think is fishy
Before he moved to Barcelona on loan he made a statement that Barcelona was the team he loves and it was his dreams to play  for them, so I believe he's living the dreams and his giving his best to help them succeed, one thing about recruiting players is that when you scout and recruit a player that loves a club and is happy to make a move, those set of players end up being among the best in the team cause they're playing  with love and passion for the club and will help the team succeed especially when they're a top class, i think Barcelona won't regret getting him on loan and Xavi needs to do everything possible to make sure he secures enough funds from the board to sign Joao Felix on a complete transfer.
 
 He's made me enjoy creating viewing Barcelona matches since his arrival and has scored both in the league and champions league for Barcelona within this shot period of his arrival,so tell me which manager in his right sense won't love to bring him into their squad, Chelsea made a big mistake to allow him leave without pushing to sign him completely but i believe Xavi won't make same mistake and would do everything possible to keep Félix in his team.
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September 20, 2023, 10:27:44 PM
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Years ago Eden Hazard joined Real Madrid for a huge amount of money and that transfer was very expensive in Real Madrid, but in he couldn't have a good performance when he was playing there and that's why we can say Eden Hazard was also the worst transfer for them.
Currently, he is still searching for the next team and it seems Royale Union Saint‑Gilloise is the destination for this player.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12535311/Eden-Hazard-offered-route-football-Liverpools-Europa-League-opponents-Royale-Union-Saint-Gilloise-ex-Real-Madrid-flop-tempted-closer-family-brothers-play-Brussels.html

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September 20, 2023, 11:09:53 PM
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Years ago Eden Hazard joined Real Madrid for a huge amount of money and that transfer was very expensive in Real Madrid, but in he couldn't have a good performance when he was playing there and that's why we can say Eden Hazard was also the worst transfer for them.
Currently, he is still searching for the next team and it seems Royale Union Saint‑Gilloise is the destination for this player.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12535311/Eden-Hazard-offered-route-football-Liverpools-Europa-League-opponents-Royale-Union-Saint-Gilloise-ex-Real-Madrid-flop-tempted-closer-family-brothers-play-Brussels.html
Eden Hazard have failed to impressed his fans after making the move to Santiago Bernabeu, he declined in his performance and started losing the good reputation he already set while in Chelsea. Eden Hazard was a lover of football and knows how to deal with his opponents on the ball. There's basically no time for the retired Belgium player to bounce back to the game, he exhausted his cards and I know fully well he will make plans to retire afterall he's close to retirement this season, after rejecting bids with no reason, he's a free player and would take his own decisions.

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September 20, 2023, 11:18:15 PM
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I don't think so, because in this case I still feel that if Barcelona had solid finances and didn't have financial problems like they have in the last few seasons they would definitely try to bring Messi back but because they are aware that something like that is impossible so Like it or not, they have to be reluctant, especially with the conditions of Messi's salary and price, it is clear that it will be very difficult for Barcelona if they continue to impose their will. Currently they have gone their own way and I don't think we need to discuss things like this anymore because in the end they have become the past and now Barcelona only has to focus on returning to performance and improving financial management so that it doesn't get destroyed like the previous 2 seasons.
I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
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September 21, 2023, 02:39:52 AM
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Ole Solskjaer's latest interview with The Athletic media provides some information regarding the transfer of players who were targeted by Manchester United. The former Red Devils coach said there were several players who were targets, such as Erling Haaland, Declan Rice and Moise Caicedo. These are all the target players targeted by Ole Solskjaer when he was still coach of Manchester United. Meanwhile, he also added that he was interested in bringing in Harry Kane at that time but it all failed due to budget constraints that Manchester United did not have due to Covid.

I think even if this transfer is realized it will certainly be a muddy hole for the player's career considering the current condition of Manchester United. Even with all the necessary players available in the summer, Manchester United is still in a continuing slump.

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxZ_nknMH7q/

Improvement of Manchester United is not going to happen soon In my opinion. The moment we think Manchester United is improving or going to improve, they start performing really badly. They are definitely spending a lot of money. But they are not getting the results that they probably should. And that is eventually making a lot of players not be interested in going to Manchester United. However still Manchester United is spending more money to bring in players. Sometimes they are giving more money than the player deserves to bring him in the team. But even that is not helping them too much to be honest.

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September 21, 2023, 03:47:11 AM
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
It's just too funny lol.

Barcelona already have a lot great and young players, no need to expect Messi return to Barcelona.

In midfielder they have Pedri, Gavi, De Jong and Gundongan. If Messi back to Barcelona, he will not have a place to play, but these young players obviously don't mind to let Messi take his place due to seniorism.


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