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September 21, 2023, 12:20:41 PM
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Why need transfer dollars when you can play like Barcelona did against Antwerp? Barcelona's financial diet may be due to La Liga's FFP restrictions, but the game versus Antwerp was great and a return to greatness

Joo Felix? The kid is living his dream, and I'm jealous. I wish I felt that way about work. The same man who seemed stuck in Atletico Madrid's defense scheme now playing like he's on fire. I agree; he's working harder than ever to succeed. Barcelona would be foolish not to extend his contract, even against FFP, if he keeps performing like this

Felix is really happy and from his performance and his facial expressions you will know that he is happy. He said after that he is happy playing for his dream team and being happy always brings out the best in a player. Felix has always been a good player but Atletico is not a team that suit his style that’s why his performance has been excellent in Barcelona. I believe he will become a key player in the squad that will determine the wyas of the team.

I have always known his abilities since his time at Chelsea and i was surprised when chelsea decided to let him go because Pochettino said he was not part of his plans, he was easily the best player in chelsea last season but due to the poor team performance it had effect on him as well. Joining barca now is the best move for him and i hope they have the funds to permanent his deal with them and also i hope Atletico make the deal easy for barcelona because felix has already sacrificed  amount alot for barcelona.

I wonder if back then when he decided to go to Atletico Madrid whether Barcelona was also bidding for him or if they were not interested in him. Because if they were, this is one of those lies that they are now playing for their dream team, but back then they went for the money. I am not sure but I thought there was a rumor already about him and Barcelona like years ago. Maybe it would have also been too early.

But it is also too early to say that he has his breakthrough now. People are quick in drawing conclusions and there has only been a hand full of La Liga games so far and I would like to see him consistently score and support the team before I'd say he is having his breakthrough.

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September 21, 2023, 12:25:40 PM
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I wonder where Pep Guardiola got his coaching philosophy from cause he's done the extraordinário across Europe and he's currently the best coach in the world and a coach every player would want to train under, i love what he's done with Manchester City, making them to become the strongest team in England currently In just a short period of his arrival in the 2016/2017 season and since they've won different tittle and broke plenty of records set by other teams.

Quality Managers like Johan Cruyff and  Louis Van Gaal must have been huge inspiration to Josep Pep Guardiola. Names asides, he was a player who had managerial experience and qualities even as a player. Before football management he was an exceptional player that benefited from the positional play movement and quick transition football. Though, Manchester City plays a better quick transition and play right now unlike before. And with the help of La Masia players he was successful.


In this Champions League,. Barcelona are my hot favorites to win the Champions League. They have a squad that's unstoppable.
The attacking Trio of Felix, Lewandoski and Ferran Torres are buzzing they will sure cause havock on defenders. Xavi Hernandez has the best squad and depth, Hopefully, he gets to wrap the Spanish League quick.

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September 21, 2023, 12:35:29 PM
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Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi Cheesy as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age.

Surprisingly, there are many such fans. Even on this forum (where I assume the average age of participants is 30+), many believe that at PSG Messi corresponded with his PR level, and the constant failures are the club’s fault, not his. However, this old scheme - if there is success, then it is the merit of Messi, if there is no success, then it is the fault of the club.

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September 21, 2023, 01:07:32 PM
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Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi Cheesy as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age.
Imagining the good old days is fun, isn't it? Maybe that's what Messi fans imagine, always thinking about how Messi can repeat his best achievements at his old club, but they forget that sometimes everything good has an end and Messi's journey with Barcelona ended when he moved to PSG and now he is enjoying his career at Inter Miami. It won't be like when he was at Barcelona but Messi realizes that everything comes to an end.

Felix is really happy and from his performance and his facial expressions you will know that he is happy.
What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.

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September 21, 2023, 01:09:41 PM
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Years ago Eden Hazard joined Real Madrid for a huge amount of money and that transfer was very expensive in Real Madrid, but in he couldn't have a good performance when he was playing there and that's why we can say Eden Hazard was also the worst transfer for them.
Currently, he is still searching for the next team and it seems Royale Union Saint‑Gilloise is the destination for this player.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12535311/Eden-Hazard-offered-route-football-Liverpools-Europa-League-opponents-Royale-Union-Saint-Gilloise-ex-Real-Madrid-flop-tempted-closer-family-brothers-play-Brussels.html

I heard that a few Premier League teams are actually interested in him. But I don't know if that is true or not. Because I believe if they actually were interested in him, they would have approached him already. We also heard that he was going to retire. But it seems like that was a made up news which the media spread just because he wanted to terminate his contract with Real Madrid.

Union Saint Gilloise is definitely interested in him. After all, this is a Belgian club. But I heard that Mexican club Pachuca was also interested in him. But the most interest is currently being shown by Union SG. So probably that is going to be the next destination of him.

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September 21, 2023, 01:12:08 PM
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
It's just too funny lol.

Barcelona already have a lot great and young players, no need to expect Messi return to Barcelona.

In midfielder they have Pedri, Gavi, De Jong and Gundongan. If Messi back to Barcelona, he will not have a place to play, but these young players obviously don't mind to let Messi take his place due to seniorism.

Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi Cheesy as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age.

I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, ​​but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision.
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September 21, 2023, 01:21:22 PM
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.

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September 21, 2023, 01:26:00 PM
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
It's just too funny lol.

Barcelona already have a lot great and young players, no need to expect Messi return to Barcelona.

In midfielder they have Pedri, Gavi, De Jong and Gundongan. If Messi back to Barcelona, he will not have a place to play, but these young players obviously don't mind to let Messi take his place due to seniorism.

Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi Cheesy as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age.

I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, ​​but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision.

@Mustang Shelby Barcelona official’s will never go on the record and say that they don’t need Messi because he’s yet very popular with the fan’s so they’ll only tease about his return but take no action to get him. Furthermore Messi never wanted to leave and he had agreed to pick minimum wages to stay but Barcelona officials decided against his stay and even when he was a free agent again they did nothing to bring him back and that’s why he didn’t bother coming back to Barcelona.
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September 21, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
With Barcelona current financial condition, this is a big challenge, their worrying finances will be a big obstacle in fulfilling the wishes of many people, including me also hoping that Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo will be made permanent. The contribution that both of them have made to Barcelona is very convincing in terms of continuous goal contributions and will have a significant impact if Barcelona tries in any way to generate such a large redemption amount.

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September 21, 2023, 02:06:44 PM
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
Leo Messi returned is out of the picture as the coach, players and the supporters are curious about the growth of the team. They are increasingly better than before and everything working smooth for them because they remain consistent in their performance. All these years, the club have declined in performance, they really try to hook up back to there best because it's definitely not an easy task for an elite club to scramble, not all players have gain that energy and experience to rise back up. Barcelona are in amazing form currently, they have the best outstanding players. Xavi Hernandez have worked on his squad and he's having good results.

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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
Well, in my opinion this is a relatively expensive fee but also quite reasonable and in any case the role of these two players is very important for Barcelona's development. We know that there is no doubt about the quality of Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo, it has been proven that in several previous matches both of them contributed goals to Barcelona's victory. But again, where can Barcelona get that much money with the current financial situation and it seems very impossible for Barcelona to make him permanent. I think that if the loan contract ends, Barcelona must be willing to be prepared to part with both of them.

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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
The matter for consideration is how Barcelona can obtain 200 million. Barcelona has sold more of its broacasting right in summer. In order to secure a permanent signing of Felix from Atletico Madrid, Barcelona may need the club to let go of some of their young players.
Barcelona was good but its financial problem will always become a nightmare for the club. I don't even think barcelona has the intention to sell yamal and gavi. Barcelona is still in a huge debt now.
The catalan could not register felix, cancelo or even gundogan if laporta's club was not selling more broadcasting right.
It's impossible for barcelona to recruit them all without selling the players. I remember barcelona has tried so hard in selling de jong, fati or even ferran torrest but they were refusing to be sold by the club.
It will be a hard situation for barcelona.

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September 21, 2023, 04:40:58 PM
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
Well, in my opinion this is a relatively expensive fee but also quite reasonable and in any case the role of these two players is very important for Barcelona's development. We know that there is no doubt about the quality of Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo, it has been proven that in several previous matches both of them contributed goals to Barcelona's victory. But again, where can Barcelona get that much money with the current financial situation and it seems very impossible for Barcelona to make him permanent. I think that if the loan contract ends, Barcelona must be willing to be prepared to part with both of them.

Obviously it is a cost that is quite expensive for the Barcelona family to make these two players permanent, well it is true that these two players are no doubt, they have a very good contribution there and obviously this will be very good ammunition for the development of Barcelona itself, the point is that both Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo can provide something that Barcelona needs even though their status is still a loan player there. And yes that is always the question, where Barcelona will be able to get the fantastic money to make these two players permanent, as we know now Xavi's squad is not doing well in financial matters, and of course this is always their obstacle.

Oh well recently I heard a statement from Barcelona that if these two players can give their best performances for the umpteenth time before the loan period ends then I hear they will open up opportunities to retain these two players, but I don't know for sure whether it's in the sense of extending the loan period or buying permanently. What is clear is that if Barcelona wants to make these two players Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo permanent then clearly Barcelona must prepare approximately 200 million, and that is very difficult to realize in the midst of financial problems that continue to be an obstacle to this squad.

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September 21, 2023, 04:45:56 PM
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Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.

You are right, both players are having good forms and playing well, scoring goals etc, most especially Joao Felix who has underperformed in couple of seasons now. With Felix and Cancelo performing well; it means Barcelona needs to prepare another loan offer for both players because they cannot afford to sign them both
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Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.

You are right, both players are having good forms and playing well, scoring goals etc, most especially Joao Felix who has underperformed in couple of seasons now. With Felix and Cancelo performing well; it means Barcelona needs to prepare another loan offer for both players because they cannot afford to sign them both

They both are spectacular players. Cancelo performed great when he was at City and at Bayern too. While Felix also is a very good dribbler but his finishing lacks a bit. I think both City and Atletico are gonna ask a huge money. City might find it easy to allow Cancelo to leave for 70-80m but Felix is definitely gonna go for over or near 100 m.

Possible that Barcelona might get them for loan again because both players are having hard relationship with their respective clubs and while there are no buyers, the only viable way is to send them out on loan again.
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September 21, 2023, 05:03:23 PM
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Obviously it is a cost that is quite expensive for the Barcelona family to make these two players permanent, well it is true that these two players are no doubt, they have a very good contribution there and obviously this will be very good ammunition for the development of Barcelona itself, the point is that both Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo can provide something that Barcelona needs even though their status is still a loan player there. And yes that is always the question, where Barcelona will be able to get the fantastic money to make these two players permanent, as we know now Xavi's squad is not doing well in financial matters, and of course this is always their obstacle.

Oh well recently I heard a statement from Barcelona that if these two players can give their best performances for the umpteenth time before the loan period ends then I hear they will open up opportunities to retain these two players, but I don't know for sure whether it's in the sense of extending the loan period or buying permanently. What is clear is that if Barcelona wants to make these two players Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo permanent then clearly Barcelona must prepare approximately 200 million, and that is very difficult to realize in the midst of financial problems that continue to be an obstacle to this squad.
Barcelona efforts to circumvent the Club financial crisis with loan transfers and free transfers were quite successful.

The best option for now for Xavi is to make maximum use of both, both of which can provide a temporary solution for Blaurana during the loan period. If they successfully defend the La Liga title, or win the Champions League, it will certainly be easy for Barca to make the two Portuguese players permanent. Because you will get a large income if you win the trophy, and another option is to release the existing players to cover the transfer costs for Felix and Cancelo. All possibilities can still happen, but this can only be realized when both of them contribute consistently until the end of the season.

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September 21, 2023, 05:57:55 PM
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What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Joao brothers aka Felix and Cancelo looks really different when they were playing in their old teams and when they play for Barcelona, I expect Barcelona will sign both of them permanently. Barcelona need to prepare at least 200 Million Euros because Atletico Madrid tend to ask ridiculous amount.
Well, in my opinion this is a relatively expensive fee but also quite reasonable and in any case the role of these two players is very important for Barcelona's development. We know that there is no doubt about the quality of Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo, it has been proven that in several previous matches both of them contributed goals to Barcelona's victory. But again, where can Barcelona get that much money with the current financial situation and it seems very impossible for Barcelona to make him permanent. I think that if the loan contract ends, Barcelona must be willing to be prepared to part with both of them.

Not just these two players but I think Barcelona even hired more players on loan and these players are not going to stay in Barcelona permanently. The management of Barcelona will have hard work to keep these players with the current situation they have in their team.
One way they can earn money is from the Champions League, Barcelona can earn a good amount of money if they get good results in this tournament.

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September 21, 2023, 06:04:44 PM
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Felix is really happy and from his performance and his facial expressions you will know that he is happy.
What Joao Felix has done so far has also made Barcelona happy and Barcelona's decision to respond well to his desire to play at this club has at least paid off, with the very little money they have spent in the transfer market and with what is currently being shown it is quite profitable for Barcelona, and the next thing is how they patented Joao Felix as a full Barcelona player.
Felix definitely living his dream, that was something he wanted for a very long time. I hope that he does well enough, feel like he could definitely do something that would make a lot of sense for him on the long run. I believe that we could see Barcelona growing a lot higher this way.

I mean the yare not spending the worlds on transfers, and getting players that actually want to play there. They are a big club with a great name and there are a lot of players that loves them, so they just pay the salary, and just a bit of transfer fee every year. They could just make it work in a way where they will end up with much and much less expense, and with their growing income from the success they get, they may repay the debt.

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September 21, 2023, 06:05:45 PM
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I think it's time for Barcelona fans to forget about Messi's return to the club as a player, only if only to work in the structure of the club after the end of an active career. Xavi Hernandez has already successfully built a new model of Barcelona's game without the need for Messi's presence, he has already achieved quite successful results and therefore it is not necessary to break it all for the nostalgic return of his former idol. And I think the ratio of price (salary) and quality of the current Messi is no longer optimal for Barcelona, but on the contrary will be an unaffordable burden.
It's just too funny lol.

Barcelona already have a lot great and young players, no need to expect Messi return to Barcelona.

In midfielder they have Pedri, Gavi, De Jong and Gundongan. If Messi back to Barcelona, he will not have a place to play, but these young players obviously don't mind to let Messi take his place due to seniorism.

Anyone who expects Messi to return to Barcelona, I'm sure he doesn't understand about football, it's likely that he is only a child who idolizes Messi Cheesy as you said what was expected from Messi when Barcelona already had many talented young players this means they don't need old players anymore. Messi might come back but not as a player but in another position, for example as a coach in the future or even the club owner, who knows right? we don't know how long he is active as a player remembering his old age.

I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, ​​but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision.

Moving back to Barcelona will not be a good option for Lionel Messi,  it is now clear that he is the greatest player.  Barcelona are in high financial problems  so it would be fine for them not to be able to get Messi to Barcelona.
So far as a USA big name and team player Lionel Messi has achieved awards that will be un achievable.
Felix is a loan player now Barcelona  will have to take time to negotiate  with Atletico for felix. So far he has shown a good start which is convincing for him to be signed.

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September 21, 2023, 06:12:44 PM
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I wish Barcelona wanted to bring him back into the team instead of retiring him. Frankly, it would be fun to watch him in the Barcelona jersey again, but he chose USA and he plays very well in MLS. Barcelona does not have the financial power to sign Messi again. He could have made the same sacrifice as Joao Felix and played for Barcelona, ​​but Messi did not choose to do so. That's why we can't criticize him, it's his decision.
Expecting something like this is the same as expecting Barcelona to return to the abyss where they have to think of many ways to avoid FFP lol.
Barcelona and Messi already have their own world and we must realize that wanting Messi back in Barcelona uniform is impossible because in the end there are more negative impacts that will be received than the positive aspects obtained.
Indeed, seeing Messi in Barcelona uniform may be for some fans it will be a little better in the hope of repeating the glory in the era that has been lost but a Messi whose age is currently approaching retirement will not be able to carry that burden because he must be aware that with his current age he has decreased in terms of performance.
On the other hand, the salary that will be issued will also be very risky to make Barcelona experience problems again after this season its financial condition has improved so rather than taking risks like that, I think Messi's decision to MLS with the money given and Barcelona not bringing Messi is already a good decision.

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