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November 07, 2023, 12:18:23 AM |
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I mean, I wouldn't say "nothing", sure maybe they can't make 100 back from him, but do you really think that something smaller wouldn't be possible? Like lets say 20 million, we can all assume that they can sell him for 20 million right? Hell, even a smaller club would get the money somehow, make a debt, and get him at that price. I would say 50 wouldn't be impossible neither, we are looking into a winger that could potentially be better at a better setup, he is at United and right now wings at United is a very tough place to be, so I understand that, but get him to another team and he could play a lot better. I believe that they did lost "some" money on him, but not all of it, not the whole 100 million.
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November 07, 2023, 04:23:10 AM |
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It's such a weird feeling to talk about how ETH could be sacked, which I agree I wouldn't suggest United to do it and just let him grow with the team, I do not think that if he managed the club for 20 more years he would get terrible results, I can see him win a few EPL titles and even maybe a UCL title along the way as well, and a few FA cups too.
It's just that the fans and the ownership is too impatient with these managers so they keep on changing them like changing a sock and that's not really how it should be at all, you need to give managers some time. In any case, I think it's important to remember that this topic has "will ETH bring United back to glory days" as a poll, and now we are talking about sacking the same person that they were not sure about, it's a weird feeling without a doubt. I think it's clear that we are going to end up with something that could be all that interesting. Hopefully, it can get better for them in the end.
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November 07, 2023, 05:32:48 AM |
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It's such a weird feeling to talk about how ETH could be sacked, which I agree I wouldn't suggest United to do it and just let him grow with the team, I do not think that if he managed the club for 20 more years he would get terrible results, I can see him win a few EPL titles and even maybe a UCL title along the way as well, and a few FA cups too. That depends on the performance from united. If the club is still remain up and down at this moment and just give him more time but it will be so different if the club is always going down. Will you let ETH bring manchester united to the relegation zone by let him try to be appointment for much longer in manchester united? It sounds non sense for me. Manchester united needs to sack him once he will not be showing good performance. It's just that the fans and the ownership is too impatient with these managers so they keep on changing them like changing a sock and that's not really how it should be at all, you need to give managers some time. In any case, I think it's important to remember that this topic has "will ETH bring United back to glory days" as a poll, and now we are talking about sacking the same person that they were not sure about, it's a weird feeling without a doubt. I think it's clear that we are going to end up with something that could be all that interesting. Hopefully, it can get better for them in the end.
I don't even think so. The fans have been consistently watching how ten hag was managing manchester united since last years. How can you call them all impatience? They paid money to watch their favorite clubs and they deserve to see their clubs show good performances that can make them feel happy. The fans never got someone who was able bringing MU to the ferguson era. I can even feel how they disappointed with MU once it was performing so badly. Let's see how mu will be facing copenhagen. Being unable to beat copenhagen = ten hag out.
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November 07, 2023, 06:25:55 AM |
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There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony. They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F06%2FtJc2f.jpeg&t=665&c=gPvc6EQlbUF1AQ) Looking Antony statistic scored 8 goals from 54 matches all competition with Manchester United last two season its very bad transfer did by Erik ten Hag because he spent much money until 95 million euro for very poor performance from Antony. Latest rumor he will barter with Flamengo attacking line Gabriel Barbosa, its good option depend Antony can't show his best performance with Manchester United and lack ness with attacking line position make Gabriel Barbosa its very good option exactly short term contract. One thing unbelievable with Erik ten Hag keep trust and give regular position for Antony although he was not on the top performance than Jadon Sancho have withdrew from main squad. Before reach agreement deal for swapping Antony with Gabriel Barbosa, Manchester United have looking with Barbosa history ever failed with Inter Milan before return back to Flamengo.
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November 07, 2023, 06:33:31 AM |
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There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony. They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F06%2FtJc2f.jpeg&t=665&c=gPvc6EQlbUF1AQ) It is obvious that Antony is harming the team. I think they didn't get what they paid for him. Antony is a talented player, but if the team cannot take advantage of him, his talents are irrelevant. Like Tonali, he could not benefit the team. Because of the bet, Tonali is of no use to Newcastle United at the moment.
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November 07, 2023, 07:05:09 AM |
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Yes, I agree with your point of view. MU was too risky to bring in young players. Instead, they brought in quality, experienced players, probably made the team better. What Mason Mount has done so far at MU is just 1 assist. He was not even coach Ten Hag's top priority for a place in the first team in recent matches. Perhaps wearing the number 7 shirt put Mount under more pressure, and things did not go smoothly. Currently, Mount still has a contract with MU until 2028. It seems like MU himself carried this "bomb" on himself.
In the case of the bad things that happen to Man United, I not blame anyone because this is just about the line up of players which is less than perfect and if Ten Hag is able to bring in experienced players with good enough quality, it will definitely be a little easier to make positive changes to this team, whereas now if you look at it from the very complicated line up of MU players, some players dont work well and there are players who have conflicts, etc. so, in the future transfer, Ten Hag must really be able to get the right players because this concerns MU future and if they fail to bring in experienced players, perhaps Man United will have to lose their good name a little.
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November 07, 2023, 07:14:34 AM |
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I have heard that if manchester city has interest to recruit zaire from PSG but it's likely PSG was not willing to let him go. This is based from enrique's statement if zaire is still becomes one of most important player that owned by PSG. Pep is having a very good scouting team. Once a player being scouted and he has big probability to become a successful footballer. In my perspective, it seems that Enrique is inclined towards him staying for an even lengthier period, but this will ultimately be determined by the player's decision on whether he will pass up the chance to join one of the most powerful teams in the world or not. Luis Enrique: “Warren Zaïre-Emery is a diamond. He knows where to position himself on the pitch, and this is what makes great players”.
“It is easy to coach a player like him, with his innate skills”.
“One of his best attributes is that he is humble. I love him!”. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1721572888103326145I think that warren zaire needs to join in the manchester city. He needs to take mbappe as an example about how bad PSG is for his career. He can become even better once he will be going to the manchester city. Having pep as a new coach is far better than stay with enrique.
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November 07, 2023, 07:39:34 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F06%2FtyYBo.png&t=665&c=G95SaOnlfhj-ww) Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1721502144996470820It seems that Marcos Alonso and Sergi Roberto will not be offered new contracts by Barcelona and of course both will be free agents next season. Marcos Alonso was acquired by Barcelona as a free agent from Chelsea last season and Barcelona couldn't keep him anymore considering he was starting to age. On the other hand, Sergi Roberto, who is a veteran at Barcelona, seems to have run out of time and we often see him just filling the bench. Apart from that, I'm also not sure if Barcelona has good finances to keep these old players. So I think maybe before the two leave as free agents next season, Barcelona will open offers from any team in January. Do you think this is the right decision from Barcelona? I think that Barcelona's choice not to continue the contracts of Marcos Alonso and Sergi Roberto was based on practicality rather than loyalty. Even though it's painful, this move is the best way for the club to save money since its finances are in bad shape. They're not old by any means, but in today's fast-paced football, even stars that aren't shining as brightly are often thrown out. I find it amusing, if a little angry, that the same school that used to value legacy and contribution now seems to care more about saving pennies than keeping their own.
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November 07, 2023, 07:57:05 AM |
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There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony. They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team.
Antony productivity has recently decreased drastically compared to last season. Honestly, I think Antony actually has good abilities if he is in the hands of the right coach, it's just that we all know Antony hasn't been able to find optimal playing at Manchester United. If the final option is to sell Antony, there could be interest coming from English clubs who know how to utilize Antony abilities as a striker. Real Madrid have been denying every news about their interest and plans to sign Kylian Mbappe but the truth remains that Real Madrid are very interested in getting Mbappe to sign for them in the near future. I also consider Victor Osimhen a good alternative for Real Madrid if Mbappe’s pursuit goes the wrong way or is unsuccessful.
I'm very surprised with the response from Real Madrid management. Everyone knows that they should be interested to sign Mbappe, especially they are in urgent for a strong striker now. I think it is too bad if Real Madrid never negotiated with PSG, I doubt if they have no plan to sign Mbappe. If it is true, Real Madrid management is not smart enough to take the advantage from the current situation of Mbappe in PSG. Well, Osimhen is a good striker, too. But I think his level is still below Mbappe's level. Madrid attracted attention after confirming what the media had spread. It's just that I'm a little disappointed because Madrid Management's statement dampened many of the fans' hopes. Maybe Madrid doesn't want to rush to announce Mbappe before his contract at PSG actually expires. As we know, last season Madrid gave the green light to Mbappe several times and the French player's reply ultimately made Madrid a little disappointed. Now Madrid may be testing Mbappe and his seriousness in the upcoming transfer market.
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November 07, 2023, 08:40:34 AM |
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There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony. They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F06%2FtJc2f.jpeg&t=665&c=gPvc6EQlbUF1AQ) Antony's performance at Manchester United is questionable and in the last few matches when he started, he still couldn't score a single goal. In fact, Antony's market value has now fallen to 50 million euros, which is a loss of half the price that Manchester United has spent since signing him from Ajax. Now Antony's fate is increasingly unclear and it is reported that he will be loaned to Flamengo because Manchester United is also interested in one of the Flamengo players, namely Gabriel Barbosa. If this rumor is true, then it will be a bad career for Antony because while he can be at the highest level and join Manchester United, but at the same time he cannot prove that he deserves to be in the Red Devils squad.
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November 07, 2023, 08:49:35 AM |
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Antony has shown poor performance in the MU shirt over the past time. Since the beginning of this season, Antony has demonstrated poor performance. The Brazilian striker still needs goals or assists. I'm doubting his abilities. Is he worth the transfer price from Ajax? Antony does not deserve to play for Man United, whether in terms of level or attitude. He is proof of MU's waste of money.
True and no doubt if ten hag was not feeling satisfied with him anymore. It's the time for ten hag to get rid of him and get a new winger. You can expect nothing from antony this time. Antony performs so poorly in any matches. This makes him looked like a stupid player in the field. People are always expecting him a lot while he didn't have the capability to do that. Manchester united really needs new wingers, midfielders and defenders. MU needs to prepare a lot of money for this and it must even bigger compared with the budeget used by manchester united to buy onana, mount and reguilon. Ten hag really needs to buy the quality players instead of young players that can do nothing like mason mount. This is why ten hag is trying to loan him to the brazillian club as in exchange MU can buy a new winger to replace antony's position. It's possible to happen since ten hag is not putting antony in his main suqad anymore. The guy was starting from the bench. Yes, I agree with your point of view. MU was too risky to bring in young players. Instead, they brought in quality, experienced players, probably made the team better. What Mason Mount has done so far at MU is just 1 assist. He was not even coach Ten Hag's top priority for a place in the first team in recent matches. Perhaps wearing the number 7 shirt put Mount under more pressure, and things did not go smoothly. Currently, Mount still has a contract with MU until 2028. It seems like MU himself carried this "bomb" on himself. Mason Mount's transfer made a lot of noise for Manchester United, but it seems Mount was another transfer on which they spent more money than necessary. Antony's transfer also happened like this. The transfer fee given was an incredibly high price, but we can say that Antony has not been able to repay it yet. Maybe Manchester should change their transfer policy.
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November 07, 2023, 08:58:01 AM |
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Mason Mount's transfer made a lot of noise for Manchester United, but it seems Mount was another transfer on which they spent more money than necessary. Antony's transfer also happened like this. The transfer fee given was an incredibly high price, but we can say that Antony has not been able to repay it yet. Maybe Manchester should change their transfer policy.
You are probably right, but the tricky thing here is that retrospectively it is naturally easier to tell whether a player's transfer price was justified or not. But I think this could also be misleading because what would someone say when Mason Mount explodes and his performances develop into a never seen before level in three months from now? When a club signs a striker and that striker scored 30 goals and then scores 15 goals, it would be too easy to say that the transfer price should have been half of what has been paid. But I think you are pointing towards a problem that more generally exists and not only the transfer price for Mason Mount was too high, but probably for 99% of the players the transfer prices were too high because the system has been flooded with tons of money recently. I thought about this too and whether these prices can ever be earned through success in football and merchandise sales and viewership in the stadiums etc., but my inner voice says that this system is consuming more than it generates. But my insight is too little to really have an educated opinion on that.
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November 07, 2023, 09:02:58 AM |
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Harry Maguire's sudden significant improvement this season I think goes a long way to explain how deep football is and how any player can rise to become one of the best for his team even when it's least expected. The England international was on the verge of leaving Manchester United during the summer transfer window but decided not to leave because of the low wage offer from the club that wanted to sign him. The club manager had thought he was surplus to requirements at the club but fast forward to less than four later, Maguire has been one of the most outstanding player in the Manchester United team at the moment.
Ten Hag encouraged Maguire to leave Man United in the transfer market last summer, an agreement was not reached due to the relatively small salary. If you look at his contribution to the team now, Ten Hag should take back his words. Because when he relied too much on other players and stripped Maguire of the captain armband, this actually backfired on himself, because now he needs the services of his former captain, when other players failed to respond to the trust he had given them. On the one hand, the captain responsibilities may be burdensome for him, and when we let go of these responsibilities, Maguire becomes freer without pressure. It seems that Ten Hag will no longer encourage him to move in the upcoming transfer market, now he realizes that Maguire deserves a place in the main squad. Now where is the video of Ten Hag encouraging Maguire to leave Man United, if there is to be a coach that instructed that it should come from England coach who will demand him to leave for a club that makes him the first option in the centre of the defenders. Improvement like this is what Man United fans wants and they are getting that from Maguire after he has not been the reason why Man United signed him up since 2015 from Leicester City. I did not see a video of Ten Hag chasing Maguire. Will Antony be sold?
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November 07, 2023, 09:13:37 AM |
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Mason Mount's transfer made a lot of noise for Manchester United, but it seems Mount was another transfer on which they spent more money than necessary. Antony's transfer also happened like this. The transfer fee given was an incredibly high price, but we can say that Antony has not been able to repay it yet. Maybe Manchester should change their transfer policy.
You are probably right, but the tricky thing here is that retrospectively it is naturally easier to tell whether a player's transfer price was justified or not. But I think this could also be misleading because what would someone say when Mason Mount explodes and his performances develop into a never seen before level in three months from now? When a club signs a striker and that striker scored 30 goals and then scores 15 goals, it would be too easy to say that the transfer price should have been half of what has been paid. But I think you are pointing towards a problem that more generally exists and not only the transfer price for Mason Mount was too high, but probably for 99% of the players the transfer prices were too high because the system has been flooded with tons of money recently. I thought about this too and whether these prices can ever be earned through success in football and merchandise sales and viewership in the stadiums etc., but my inner voice says that this system is consuming more than it generates. But my insight is too little to really have an educated opinion on that. In my opinion, yes, I think like you. Football has now become a place where crazy money is made. I can't imagine the transfer fee that would be paid to Prime Ronaldo if he were in his era right now. Of course, this is also valid for Messi. In my opinion, it is not right to pay such high amounts of money. After all, this is a sport and watched for pleasure. This situation also puts some pressure on the player.
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November 07, 2023, 09:49:55 AM |
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There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony. They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F06%2FtJc2f.jpeg&t=665&c=gPvc6EQlbUF1AQ) It is obvious that Antony is harming the team. I think they didn't get what they paid for him. Antony is a talented player, but if the team cannot take advantage of him, his talents are irrelevant. Like Tonali, he could not benefit the team. Because of the bet, Tonali is of no use to Newcastle United at the moment. It is beyond my imagination to think about Antony leaving Manchester United and being loaned out to another club. I have seen that some news stated that if manchester united will be included him in the bundling to get a new winger from another club. I can't remember the name of that guy but it will be a huge loss for me as someone who is regularly how garbage antony is. Remember when he was being clueless after doing 360 spin. Many people were calling him like a beyblade. I see no talent owned by this guy. Antony is way overrated and over priced. There are also many videos in youtube have been well explained how garbage antony is. Have you seen when antony did 360? This is obviously the definition of useless but i will miss him caused by there will be no clown in manchester united. I don't even know what has been thinking by ten hag to buy this guy with non sense price. I really miss him when he did 360 spin. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's fuckin hilarious when i saw him did that trick.
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November 07, 2023, 10:07:08 AM |
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There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony. They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F06%2FtJc2f.jpeg&t=665&c=gPvc6EQlbUF1AQ) It is obvious that Antony is harming the team. I think they didn't get what they paid for him. Antony is a talented player, but if the team cannot take advantage of him, his talents are irrelevant. Like Tonali, he could not benefit the team. Because of the bet, Tonali is of no use to Newcastle United at the moment. It is beyond my imagination to think about Antony leaving Manchester United and being loaned out to another club. I have seen that some news stated that if manchester united will be included him in the bundling to get a new winger from another club. I can't remember the name of that guy but it will be a huge loss for me as someone who is regularly how garbage antony is. Remember when he was being clueless after doing 360 spin. Many people were calling him like a beyblade. I see no talent owned by this guy. Antony is way overrated and over priced. There are also many videos in youtube have been well explained how garbage antony is. Have you seen when antony did 360? This is obviously the definition of useless but i will miss him caused by there will be no clown in manchester united. I don't even know what has been thinking by ten hag to buy this guy with non sense price. I really miss him when he did 360 spin. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's fuckin hilarious when i saw him did that trick. It may be logical that he wants to create a movement that is associated with him, maybe he wants to be remembered. It's funny that he wants to have a place in people's memories, but he can't use it properly. He just spins around silly and doesn't pose any threat to the opposing defender. However, the positions in which Ronaldinho and Ronaldo equalized opponent defenders and scored goals with their unique moves are still remembered with admiration. Such a move must have a purpose.
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November 07, 2023, 10:31:19 AM |
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Perhaps at the moment the sensational transfers this season are Kane and Bellingham. Kane was very prolific in Munich, he contributed to 20 goals Bayern Munich have in the Bundesliga. In fact, he has made 15 goals and 5 assists. In total he made 17 goals in 13 Bayern Munich matches. It seems like better stats when playing in the EPL. Bellingham was also outstanding, making 14 matches in all competitions and making 13 goals and 3 assists. It's also better than the stats in Dortmund. I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.
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Abu-Naim
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November 07, 2023, 10:50:01 AM |
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Perhaps at the moment the sensational transfers this season are Kane and Bellingham. Kane was very prolific in Munich, he contributed to 20 goals Bayern Munich have in the Bundesliga. In fact, he has made 15 goals and 5 assists. In total he made 17 goals in 13 Bayern Munich matches. It seems like better stats when playing in the EPL. Bellingham was also outstanding, making 14 matches in all competitions and making 13 goals and 3 assists. It's also better than the stats in Dortmund. I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.
Source: google
Yes that right. Both Kane and Bellingham have been an incredible players in their new clubs, they adapt very quicky to their new league's style of play and keep performing better above their previous performance because they both went to teams that are better their former teams. So far, the two of them can be regarded as the best summer signing in the Europe top five Leagues because they have been performing very well consistently more than any other player that changed their team for another team in the transfer summer. The two of them if both win their respective Leagues, and perform well in this current Champions League campaign, they will come close to winning the balloon d'or next year.
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Plaguedeath
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November 07, 2023, 11:16:31 AM |
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I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.
The another one is Messi because he scored 11 goals from 11 matches and robbed the Ballon d'Or award, obviously a player who has Ballon d'Or is the best player, right? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It is beyond my imagination to think about Antony leaving Manchester United and being loaned out to another club. I have seen that some news stated that if manchester united will be included him in the bundling to get a new winger from another club. I can't remember the name of that guy but it will be a huge loss for me as someone who is regularly how garbage antony is. Remember when he was being clueless after doing 360 spin. Many people were calling him like a beyblade. I see no talent owned by this guy. Antony is way overrated and over priced.
It's all from Ten Hag's strategy. 1. He help Eriksen, Onana and Van De Beek to get better salary because he's ex-Ajax. 2. He help Ajax by signing their expensive players e.g. Antony and Martinez. Even he need to sacrifice his reputation, but at least Ajax and ex-Ajax's players get a big benefit from him.
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borovichok
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November 07, 2023, 11:34:03 AM |
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Yes that right. Both Kane and Bellingham have been an incredible players in their new clubs, they adapt very quicky to their new league's style of play and keep performing better above their previous performance because they both went to teams that are better their former teams. So far, the two of them can be regarded as the best summer signing in the Europe top five Leagues because they have been performing very well consistently more than any other player that changed their team for another team in the transfer summer.
The two of them if both win their respective Leagues, and perform well in this current Champions League campaign, they will come close to winning the balloon d'or next year.
Real Madrid and Bayern Munich should be considered lucky for hitting th lotto in previous transfer window, both elite teams making one of the crucial signings and they've seen the require evidence needed from these player's perspectives performance. Signing imperative players have helped few elite teams retrace back to incredible form and they're exceptionally recording brilliant performance and results. Jude Bellingham moved to La Liga giant and he's extremely at his peak while Harry Kane moved to Bundesliga reigning Champions and his contribution to his new team's have been nothing but actual progress.
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