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November 29, 2023, 06:40:37 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.
In my opinion if Ancelotti becomes Man United coach it does not guarantee that the problems facing the club will be resolved. The reason is simple because Ancelotti at Real Madrid is fully supported by Florentino in all aspects, which is a strong reason why Ancelotti was able to take Madrid to the highest peak. Now back to Man United, imagine Ancelotti asking for a budget to bring in expensive players but Glazer refuses and instead tells Ancelotti to use the available players. We have to be realistic, I know Ancelotti is a professional coach and has proven success. However, all of this cannot be separated from adequate financial support. Without adequate funds no matter how good a coach is at gathering players it will be difficult because creating an ideal strategy requires fulfilling what the coach needs.

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November 29, 2023, 06:45:44 PM
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^ I think it will be better for him if he actually looks for another club. I don't think he should listen to anyone if he actually does not want to stay in the Napoli squad. Because if he does end up staying, it will probably not be the best decision for him. What if he starts experiencing more unpleasant things? He is a great player and he will not have any problems trying to get settled with another club. But if it is the English Premier League, I have some doubts, to be honest. Because recently we have seen players from the Italian league, go to the English Premier League and not perform very well. so he should keep that in mind.
Osimhen should have moved clubs when he was really interested in big teams like Man Utd, well Man Utd currently really lacks a single striker, they will continue to be overwhelmed by other teams if they continue to not have a single striker. Osimhen is a good player, he will be able to handle the Man Utd front line well so he should move from Napoli and move to the English league. and for the president of Napoli, keeping Osimhen in the team will only make Napoli lose money, they should be able to get big money from the sale of Osimhen because the goal of a team is to make a profit.
Napoli is a team that can sell any player if a good transfer fee comes. There is also the example of Kim Min-Jae. He became a very important player for the team in a short time, but a good transfer fee came and they sold him. I think they may let Osimhen leave for a fee of around 100 million Euros. It doesn't matter if it's Manchester or any other team, Osimhen can be successful.

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November 29, 2023, 06:53:55 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.
In my opinion if Ancelotti becomes Man United coach it does not guarantee that the problems facing the club will be resolved. The reason is simple because Ancelotti at Real Madrid is fully supported by Florentino in all aspects, which is a strong reason why Ancelotti was able to take Madrid to the highest peak. Now back to Man United, imagine Ancelotti asking for a budget to bring in expensive players but Glazer refuses and instead tells Ancelotti to use the available players. We have to be realistic, I know Ancelotti is a professional coach and has proven success. However, all of this cannot be separated from adequate financial support. Without adequate funds no matter how good a coach is at gathering players it will be difficult because creating an ideal strategy requires fulfilling what the coach needs.


The problem of Manchester united does not come from their coach from my observation and anyone who is suggesting that Ancelotti should be appointment as the new Manchester united coach with the hope of him bringing changes to the team is making a big mistake because Manchester united is very different from the Real Madrid team where the coaches are allowed to make certain decisions regarding the players they want and how they want a particular player to play from unlike the coaches of Manchester united that relies heavily on the final instructions and decision of the club owners before any player is brought to the team. Best thing is Manchester united to be sold and the new owners should allow the Erik Ten hag to use his authority as the coach of the team to make the decision that will help the team and his players.

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November 29, 2023, 06:59:22 PM
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If Timo Werner is really being targeted by Ten Hag it means that it is difficult to predict this coach is recruiting players that United supporters never expected. Honestly, where does Ten Hag want to take Man United? as if he wanted to eliminate the characteristics of Man United's game. Ok Timo Werner is not the right type, a waste of money and the results are not optimal. But on the other hand, Ten Hag is stubborn enough that if he confirms these rumors in the next transfer window then there is actually nothing that can be improved for his front line.

Looking back at the purchases of Mason Mount, Amrabat and Hojlund, did they have a significant impact? I dont think so
In contrast, only old Man United players still contribute a lot, including reserve players.
But honestly, why is Ten Hag always looking for players who are not really necessary at this time. Weghorst, Evans and now Timo Werner. Does he really just want to make the situation worse now?

Timo played very well in his prime but we know that he failed in the EPL when he played for Chelsea and this season in Leipzig also did not go well because he was only an option player and sat on the bench more often.
I don't see what's so special about Ten Hag but if this is the case I still feel that it will be a wasted purchase.
Ten Hag's signings seem to be very unpredictable these days.
Yes, it makes little sense Erik Ten Hag will bring in this player while there are other more talented players to bring in, but what I know that Erik Ten Hag an experienced coach and has been at Manchester United for quite a long time and it impossible for Erik Ten to just will worsen his club's performance but he definitely has a goal of getting the 3 players you mentioned even though Timo Werner has always failed before but Erik Ten Hag feels that these players are very suitable for Manchester United there's no harm in trying and we'll see after the transfer window reopens whether Manchester United will have the same performance as now with a bad attack line.

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November 29, 2023, 07:14:44 PM
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I remember very well the President of Napoli's last statement, he said that they would not let go of their star players this season. However, if a club is interested in bringing him in with a tempting transfer price, we can't avoid it.
BTW, I forgot which newspaper I was referring to, but this statement seems to be widely quoted by other media. In fact, Osimhen is a player who has talent, and can develop much better than staying at Napoli. and if I'm not mistaken in reading the rumors, Napoli's financial situation is also not very healthy. If I'm wrong, please understand because I don't participate in Serie A competitions. however, referring to what you said. It seems that Napoli's situation is not financially healthy.

So far, there are actually many teams interested in bringing him. especially several big clubs that are associated with this player from Negeria. Chelsea, is a team that is always associated with Osimhen. Apart from that, Madrid is also not free from rumors relating to Osimhen. However, so far there has been no clarity on which club is truly willing to bring in Osimhen for such a fantastic dowry. except, with Chelsea. I mean, if Osimhen gives Chelsea the green light, I'm sure Todd Boehly won't hesitate to bring him to Stamford Bridge.
Oshimen, Napoli's star is now a wild card for Chelsea and some background teams, Napoli on one hand isn't ready to let go off him as they've enjoyed and basked in the euphoria of his impact to the team, while Chelsea especially are just sitting by the corner waiting for their best time to shoot a shot at Oshimen.
Napoli is a better team with Oshimen, how would they cope if he leaves, his displays there have even made him a favourite in the national space.

 He's now seen as a better part of the team. His striking skills are top notch and they're the type Chelsea are questing for. Until the expiration of his contract with Napoli, then we'd know his personal intents but personally, a change would do and at thesame time, hopefully the change of team and environment won't cause a decline in the Oshimen we generally know.

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November 29, 2023, 07:19:09 PM
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Before talking about the future of how he is at Chelsea we must also realize whether he will really be there?
The current situation is still not very clear for Osimhen because he is with Chelsea is just still a rumor and we don't know if it is true or just to increase traffic so I think some of us must feel that it is currently difficult to be an agreement between Chelsea and Osimhen. Indeed in this case money will not be a problem but the problem is that Osimhen must also expect something better so that his move is not too futile because after all a player like Osimhen now must want a better achievement than what he got at Napoli.
Yes, we all know that talk about Osimhen and Chelsea is still just rumors circulating, and many people even say that this will never happen.
Osimhen is player with quite good playing qualities and he is an experienced player with big team so he can choose who is worthy of playing for him.
In my opinion, playing with Chelsea would only be waste of time and opportunity for Osimhen to achieve great achievements.
We'll just have to see what happens next because, given the current situation and the surprises that sometimes happen in transfers, anything is possible. But indeed on the other hand the possibility of Osimhen leaving is also now still very large when talking about probabilities because there are several reasons that could make him leave such as internal problems even though at this time it has been resolved but it is still possible that there is a scenario where their internal problems are again enlarged. In addition, Napoli are currently not like before and if in the end Osimhen wants to be and compete with a stronger one then moving from Serie A is one of the good ways even though Serie A is currently one of the big competitions in Europe but we need to realize that their prestige is still very low compared to other European competitions.

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November 29, 2023, 07:29:53 PM
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I don't understand why they don't try new moves with young players for example, because some of the transfers they have made have not produced very satisfactory results. They risked very high prices with no guarantees, I mean why don't they try to promote young players? Manchester United's success at the time with Alex Ferguson also did this, many young players he promoted, so that it became a long foundation for the club's sustainability.
So far I haven't seen many young players getting many minutes, apart from Garnarcho.
Maybe players from their academy have not been able to perform with the senior team then if you maybe Man United will call to play but so far they only focus on buying players because this is the desire of Erik Ten Hag who demands a lot of young players at high prices but not according to his expectations, maybe need a long adaptation?

Surely in this January window, Man United's management has prepared several options for players they will recruit, it's just that some rumors are mentioned, but I'm not sure the Leverkusen midfielder will happen, it's too expensive with a young player who is only 20 years old.

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November 29, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.

United has that lack of passion issue, if Don goes there, he will make sure he plays all the ones that work 100% and all the players will realize this and will put their 100% without a doubt. But, to be fair I do not expect him to go there neither, he will either stay at Real Madrid, or he will go to Brazil, those are the two options if you ask me and he may go to Brazil more likely.

Ancelotti is a fantastic manager, and any club that is fortunate enough to have him on their team will be very proud of themselves. Managing Manchester United is not something I believe will be possible for the time being. According to reports, Manchester United management still has trust in Eric Ten Hag and has no plans to relieve him of his duties as manager. Ancelotti would be better off coaching Brazil than any club team right now. He is more needed there, and I am confident he will perform admirably when coaching Brazil rather than coming to Manchester United to coach. A great coach like him should not be second choice for any team he chooses to coach. He has a good track record and that record will speak well for him when been considered for a managerial position.

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November 29, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.

United has that lack of passion issue, if Don goes there, he will make sure he plays all the ones that work 100% and all the players will realize this and will put their 100% without a doubt. But, to be fair I do not expect him to go there neither, he will either stay at Real Madrid, or he will go to Brazil, those are the two options if you ask me and he may go to Brazil more likely.

Bring in whoever you want to, both Carlo Ancellotti and Josep Pep Guardiola all together, even if they handle and manage Manchester United all together they'll remain same way. Until the days of the glazers are over and completely doen with the club, Manchester United will remain same way.

I didn't see the game tonight so I can not judge Manchester United bit it seems like Onana was part of the mess today. How did Manchester United go from 1___3 to 3___3? Holy Christ! Manchester United really have no consistency.

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November 29, 2023, 08:08:47 PM
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Maybe players from their academy have not been able to perform with the senior team then if you maybe Man United will call to play but so far they only focus on buying players because this is the desire of Erik Ten Hag who demands a lot of young players at high prices but not according to his expectations, maybe need a long adaptation?

What about Pellistri? He is a young player with good potential and yet have been lacking lot of playing minutes. Manager usually find it hard to give them a chance and I feel that is where they are wrong. Players like these strive in big matches and giving them chance to play in starting lineup is the key to unlock the potential. I feel that it needs to change a bit and manager should try giving chances to young players more often.
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November 29, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
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Sancho could also arrive in Turin in January on loan.
Manchester United want to do away with Jadon Sancho, they will love it to be a permanent move out of the club, but i am pretty sure they'd accept a loan move if it is the only option. After the fall out with the manager Erik Ten Hag a few months ago, it became obvious that there was no way back for Sancho into the team, he has to leave the club to revive his career. Juventus does not seem like a bad destination for him, they are doing so well in the Seria A this season as they occupy second position, just two points behind Inter Milan, Sancho will be a good addition and could provide more attacking threat for them, in order to try and win the title again.

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November 29, 2023, 08:33:35 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.

United has that lack of passion issue, if Don goes there, he will make sure he plays all the ones that work 100% and all the players will realize this and will put their 100% without a doubt. But, to be fair I do not expect him to go there neither, he will either stay at Real Madrid, or he will go to Brazil, those are the two options if you ask me and he may go to Brazil more likely.

Ancelotti is a fantastic manager, and any club that is fortunate enough to have him on their team will be very proud of themselves. Managing Manchester United is not something I believe will be possible for the time being. According to reports, Manchester United management still has trust in Eric Ten Hag and has no plans to relieve him of his duties as manager. Ancelotti would be better off coaching Brazil than any club team right now. He is more needed there, and I am confident he will perform admirably when coaching Brazil rather than coming to Manchester United to coach. A great coach like him should not be second choice for any team he chooses to coach. He has a good track record and that record will speak well for him when been considered for a managerial position.

I totally agree that Ancelotti is an amazing coach he can improve the team wherever he plays for and having a coach like this is a lot for any team, I think even Real Madrid knows they need to get his contract even extended but because even if he leaves the team and other options they have like Xabi Alonso joni this team, there is still no guarantee for Real Madrid to get better results then.

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November 29, 2023, 08:47:48 PM
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I don't understand why they don't try new moves with young players for example, because some of the transfers they have made have not produced very satisfactory results. They risked very high prices with no guarantees, I mean why don't they try to promote young players? Manchester United's success at the time with Alex Ferguson also did this, many young players he promoted, so that it became a long foundation for the club's sustainability.
So far I haven't seen many young players getting many minutes, apart from Garnarcho.
Maybe players from their academy have not been able to perform with the senior team then if you maybe Man United will call to play but so far they only focus on buying players because this is the desire of Erik Ten Hag who demands a lot of young players at high prices but not according to his expectations, maybe need a long adaptation?

Surely in this January window, Man United's management has prepared several options for players they will recruit, it's just that some rumors are mentioned, but I'm not sure the Leverkusen midfielder will happen, it's too expensive with a young player who is only 20 years old.
Young players owned by Manchester United today not all have good adaptation, perhaps the best in adapting only Garnacho, so he is given more flight hours by Erik Ten Hag, maybe in the midst of the League of Young Player that you have can improve well.

Besides Xabi Alonso is not easy to sell his players because he has the ambition to win the League Bundes this season, Leverkusen will not let the emptiness of his players in my opinion, even if Man United forced me to think the price offered would be much more expensive. Imo

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November 29, 2023, 08:53:53 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.

If Anceloti is permanently change from Real Madrid to Manchester United, then I expect to see many players been sold and if there are free agents in the club, they will be forced to leave because I have noticed That Anceloti is a man that deals.eith young players just the way he is doing in Real Madrid currently, many of their players will have to go and many young will come that will replace the center forward and some parts of the midfield and I believe there will be less of drama because Anceloti loves and cherish his players unlike ETH.

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United has that lack of passion issue, if Don goes there, he will make sure he plays all the ones that work 100% and all the players will realize this and will put their 100% without a doubt. But, to be fair I do not expect him to go there neither, he will either stay at Real Madrid, or he will go to Brazil, those are the two options if you ask me and he may go to Brazil more likely.

If it was Anceloti that manage todqy game that Manchester United had with Galatasaray, they will not lose that match nor even draw but at the end, Manchester United didn't meet many people expectations and it's sad that they will end the Champions League in the group stage.

I have been seeing the same speculations of Anceloti but I don't think many of these are true, there is nothing impressive about coaching a national league like the Spanish club, unless the Real Madrid contract is not renew, that man will stay in Bernabeu.

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November 29, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.

United has that lack of passion issue, if Don goes there, he will make sure he plays all the ones that work 100% and all the players will realize this and will put their 100% without a doubt. But, to be fair I do not expect him to go there neither, he will either stay at Real Madrid, or he will go to Brazil, those are the two options if you ask me and he may go to Brazil more likely.

Ancelotti is a fantastic manager, and any club that is fortunate enough to have him on their team will be very proud of themselves. Managing Manchester United is not something I believe will be possible for the time being. According to reports, Manchester United management still has trust in Eric Ten Hag and has no plans to relieve him of his duties as manager. Ancelotti would be better off coaching Brazil than any club team right now. He is more needed there, and I am confident he will perform admirably when coaching Brazil rather than coming to Manchester United to coach. A great coach like him should not be second choice for any team he chooses to coach. He has a good track record and that record will speak well for him when been considered for a managerial position.
Going to Manchester United will only tarnish his good name as one of the best coaches in the world and Ancelotti should consider his decision before going any further. Being in Brazil would be very good for him and currently Brazil needs a very experienced coach like him. After his term as Real Madrid coach ends, he will head to Brazil and I believe in that.
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November 29, 2023, 09:08:42 PM
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If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.

United has that lack of passion issue, if Don goes there, he will make sure he plays all the ones that work 100% and all the players will realize this and will put their 100% without a doubt. But, to be fair I do not expect him to go there neither, he will either stay at Real Madrid, or he will go to Brazil, those are the two options if you ask me and he may go to Brazil more likely.
Ancelotti contract with Real Madrid will end at the end of this season. Of course, there is a lot of speculation continuing to grow about his future where he is often linked with big Premier League teams. With his quality which has been proven to be able to make the club he coaches win trophies, Manchester United will try to persuade him to accept their offer. So far I see Ancelotti is quite silent about his future, he could stay or extend his contract with Real Madrid or choose to coach Brazil and of course he is no stranger to Brazilian players.

I think Manchester United should not chase Ancelotti because they have Erik Ten Hag who has proven in the last season to be able to bring big changes to their progress. Manchester United management must provide full support for Erik Ten Hag and provide a lot of money to buy quality players to support him in the second half of this season. I'm sure Erik can do his best for Manchester United so management doesn't have to think about replacing him when the situation doesn't change from the targets they achieved.

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Going to Manchester United will only tarnish his good name as one of the best coaches in the world and Ancelotti should consider his decision before going any further. Being in Brazil would be very good for him and currently Brazil needs a very experienced coach like him. After his term as Real Madrid coach ends, he will head to Brazil and I believe in that.

Leading the Brazilian national team now is a win-win option for any coach - they are a strong team, but for various reasons (and because of randomness) they have not won anything for a long time. With a little luck, Brazil could well take the title. Even a third-rate Copa America would be a great achievement, and if Brazil became world champions again the coach would be idolized. By the way, this is a kind of gambling, but gambling with a positive mathematical expectation.

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November 29, 2023, 09:59:36 PM
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Going to Manchester United will only tarnish his good name as one of the best coaches in the world and Ancelotti should consider his decision before going any further. Being in Brazil would be very good for him and currently Brazil needs a very experienced coach like him. After his term as Real Madrid coach ends, he will head to Brazil and I believe in that.
It is impossible if Ancelotti wants to join Man United. What he can get in Man United? Sure, it even will tarnish his name as one of the legendary coach. Ancelotti already have an experience in EPL, he ever managed Chelsea and Everton. He already won some trophies with Chelsea, so I don't think it will be new challenge if he moves to EPL. But if he becomes the coach of Brazil national team, surely it is a new challenge for him. So, I agree that he is better to choose the option of being the coach of Brazil national team over Man United option.

Leading the Brazilian national team now is a win-win option for any coach - they are a strong team, but for various reasons (and because of randomness) they have not won anything for a long time. With a little luck, Brazil could well take the title. Even a third-rate Copa America would be a great achievement, and if Brazil became world champions again the coach would be idolized. By the way, this is a kind of gambling, but gambling with a positive mathematical expectation.
I agree with you, it can be a gambling to be the coach of Brazilian national team. They have many quality players but they couldn't win any trophy for a long time. I think it is because most Brazilian players prefer to play individually. They don't play as a solid team and they have a bad team work in playing. Ancelotti knows well how to organize a team, he succeed in many teams and prove it by some trophies. So, if Ancelotti can apply the similar approach when he ever succeed to manage some top teams, there is a chance to succeed as a Brazilian coach. However, to improve the mentality of the players is always the most challenging thing. It can be harder than applying proper tactics and build the right lineups.


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A very good deal for Juventus as Sancho is really a good winger and a good team player. I would say Juventus can really find his use for remainder of the season. It will be great if they add a buy clause and buy the player later but are Juventus ready to make this permanent later on.

If I'm not wrong Fabrizio Romano also tweeted about this.

The point is that Juventus is currently leaking in the midfield, so even if Sancho could be a top player I have the feeling they will be weak in the middle.

The need someone to replace Pogba ASAP.

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Arsenal are said to be okay about parting their ways with Aaron Ramsdale at the end of the season. I don't understand why Arsenal have given up on him in the first place. I don't believe he is a bad goalkeeper. He has really been impressive with his nice saves after joining Arsenal as well. But suddenly they have just given up and decided to continue with David Raya.

Maybe they don't want two solid goalkeepers in the squad at the same time I don't know. Because when you have this situation the one to whom you don't give much chance could get unhappy and would like to leave by himself.

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