@ the end of the BFL queue

[erk]

Why did they stop calling them japapenos?  i thought it was a cute name.

Could have been because of the case change perhaps?

BFL_Josh - "While I appreciate the sentiment and I would gladly act on it if I could, the simple fact of the matter is we can not ship anything but Jalapenos this week and next week. We simply do not have the boards and cases to ship anything but a Jalapeno. We aren't intentionally holding back Little Singles, Singles and Minirigs. The Jalapeno 5 GH/s miner is the only thing we have both the boards, chips and cases for at this time. We had to push all units up one level, so the mining device formerly known as the Jalapeno is now in the Little Single/Single case and the little Single/Single are moving to a larger home. The minirig is moving to a smaller home and will have less hashrate per unit, which also necessitates a case redesign and will use the new Single/Little Single boards as well, hence we have none at the moment.

The new Single case should be in tomorrow and the boards sometime next week, hopefully".

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/2003-petition-get-butterfly-labs-attention.html#post26648

[PuertoLibre]

Quoted from Josh at the link above this post:

"While I appreciate the sentiment and I would gladly act on it if I could, the simple fact of the matter is we can not ship anything but Jalapenos this week and next week. We simply do not have the boards and cases to ship anything but a Jalapeno. We aren't intentionally holding back Little Singles, Singles and Minirigs. The Jalapeno 5 GH/s miner is the only thing we have both the boards, chips and cases for at this time. We had to push all units up one level, so the mining device formerly known as the Jalapeno is now in the Little Single/Single case and the little Single/Single are moving to a larger home. The minirig is moving to a smaller home and will have less hashrate per unit, which also necessitates a case redesign and will use the new Single/Little Single boards as well, hence we have none at the moment.

The new Single case should be in tomorrow and the boards sometime next week, hopefully."

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Sorry higher-end BFL customers....your sorely out of luck. (SOL)

You'll be getting your in "a while". Just keep charting your declining profits on a graph paper somewhere (since October 2012)...in the meantime...while you are waiting.

[greyhawk]

Yes.

That's not what David Perry of Coding in My Sleep thinks. (Of course he has his 5 Gh/s BFL device already…)

He's a paid shill. 

[muyuu]

If they don't ramp up production they won't be selling many more.

I wonder how many of their units are mining in-house while you guys wait.

[erk]

If they don't ramp up production they won't be selling many more.

I wonder how many of their units are mining in-house while you guys wait.

Hopefully all they make at some point, I would hate to think they would ship them untested.

[Rampion]

If they don't ramp up production they won't be selling many more.

I wonder how many of their units are mining in-house while you guys wait.

With all the units they have ready, which means only a few, because they are BAD at what they do.

[muyuu]

If they don't ramp up production they won't be selling many more.

I wonder how many of their units are mining in-house while you guys wait.

Hopefully all they make at some point, I would hate to think they would ship them untested.

Yeah, they will test them as long as they are profitable  and send a few a day so people can see them in Twitter.

[erk]

If they don't ramp up production they won't be selling many more.

I wonder how many of their units are mining in-house while you guys wait.

Hopefully all they make at some point, I would hate to think they would ship them untested.

Yeah, they will test them as long as they are profitable  and send a few a day so people can see them in Twitter.

Lets see, a 5GHs unit will do about 1 BTC every 3 days with the current difficulty, and they could probably make and sell one of the $274 units in minutes, which approach would you say was more profitable?

[Frizz23]

Lets see, a 5GHs unit will do about 1 BTC every 3 days with the current difficulty, and they could probably make and sell one of the $274 units in minutes, which approach would you say was more profitable?

Most profitable? BFLs approach of course!  
Step 1 (mandatory): Sell unit
Step 2 (optional): build unit
Step 3 (unnecessary): ship unit

[muyuu]

Lets see, a 5GHs unit will do about 1 BTC every 3 days with the current difficulty, and they could probably make and sell one of the $274 units in minutes, which approach would you say was more profitable?

Most profitable? BFLs approach of course!  
Step 1 (mandatory): Sell unit
Step 2 (optional): build unit
Step 3 (unnecessary): ship unit

That's right.

Between Step 2 and Step 3 you don't have "current difficulty" any more. That's when you mine, for as long as you see fit.

[VelvetLeaf]

If you already ordered Jalapeno / ASIC / blah blah blah, make sure to place a bet on (trusted) betting sites against BFL delivering.

BFL deliver -> you get your free btc maker.
BFL doesn't deliver -> You get free money from betting sites.

Hedging, how does it work ?
And yes, the one that place 250 BTC is a BFL employee.



http://bitbet.us/bet/7/

April 2013 :
In : 250 BTC
Out : 500 BTC

May 2013 :
In : 500 BTC
Out : 1000 BTC

June 2013 :
In : 1000 BTC
Out : 2000 BTC

2000 BTC for 3 months.
You can continue this until December and x2 your BTC every time.

[Geremia]

it is simple for the jalapeno thing. you take the amount of orders placed and divide by how many they can make and ship a day. unless they are going to churn out over 1k units a day, next year is a safe bet

They have the technology to make >520 5 Gh/s devices per day.

[Frizz23]

They have the technology to make >520 5 Gh/s devices per day.

And they have the stupidity to easily compensate for it.

Which means: Max. 10 units per day.

[SebastianJu]

This has nothing to do with USD price of bitcoin...   

I paid 300 BTC for them.  Yes they were sold in USD but even if BTC were $1 each, I will most likely not be able to mine the 300BTC I paid for them back in a reasonable amount of time.

Of course not, but you will be able to mine back the cost of the unit in $USD in a reasonable time, and that's the point. The unit was sold to you priced in $USD not BTC, whatever you choose to sell to get sufficient $USD at the time of the order is your problem. Personally I would have used something that inflates over time, like a fiat currency to pay for an item with a long lead time.

I believe that he means he sold btc to buy the miner. So if he wouldnt have done this and kept the BTC he would have way more $USD now than this miner can mine ever. I can understand that this is a pain.
Of course miner sellers need people that think that their miner, once bought, will be pay back faster only because the bitcoin exchange price will go up. Good for the seller then.

[Cluster2k]

To all those people complaining about paying in bitcoins and seeing the dollar value of those bitcoins skyrocket in the meantime:

You can't have it both ways.

Real world expenses for goods and services are still in dollars.  Bitcoin is just a proxy for the US dollar.  I bet the foundry was paid in dollars, as was the company that made the boxes.  Those bitcoins would have been converted into US dollars long ago.  It's not like BFL was sitting on a pile of bitcoins waiting for a speculative bubble to arrive.

[minternj]

Can we just sticky a BFL flame thread ? Would be better than seing BFL troll comments in EVERY thread, even none BFL related ones.

[glendall]

Oh the BFL troll thread is coming 'in just another week or two'.

There has been some last minute surprise delays. Everything is almost ready though.

It'll be in a slightly larger font, but it'll be worth the wait, I promise.

(Sorry couldn't resist).

[erk]

Can we just sticky a BFL flame thread ? Would be better than seing BFL troll comments in EVERY thread, even none BFL related ones.

Here is my list:

Phinnaeus Gage
smoothie
k9quaint
Frizz23
muyuu
PuertoLibre
Bitsaurus

[k9quaint]

Can we just sticky a BFL flame thread ? Would be better than seing BFL troll comments in EVERY thread, even none BFL related ones.

Here is my list:

Phinnaeus Gage
smoothie
k9quaint
Frizz23
muyuu
PuertoLibre
Bitsaurus

Couldn't we just put the 6 people with BFL Jalapenos in one thread and let them post their stuff there?
Then every time BFL ships a thousand units, we let the BFL PR department open another thread.
That should clean up this forum.

[minternj]

Sure, but you would be the first to post a troll comment in there. Wow you are dense huh.