New SCAMMER kleineaap

[boy130]

Dear bitcointalk community, be aware when u dealing with this member!

1 week ago I was need html developer for my ongoing project. I had a deal with him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=295199. I sent him what to do (transform psd to html).

I paid him for this job and he don't want send me it now! 
I prepaid 50% and now he blackmailing me...  He admit that we agreed for 15$ but now he don't want finish this design and saying that he made small price...

Here the some messages from our conversation  :





I did deposit for him: https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/58164907afcd268761e96700337a3948531ac9972acffd480a94d9ca69cb987f




And now he don't want to send me any files and finish this work because he think that I will get profit from his work... I am backend dev who hired frontend dev for doing html part of my ongoing project for 1 client. I agreed to pay him without escrow 50% of ESTIMATED BY HIMSELF price. I even agreed to wait for 5 days longer. All what I asked him about is just simple html template from this psd (https://uploadfiles.io/c31242)...  And now I get nothing. Where the justice?

UPDATE new message from him:



I want that he return back my prepayment as job is not done and I have not any files from him.. 

[kleineaap]

Hahahah

[Pearls Before Swine]

You can laugh, but get ready for a torrent of red trust when DT members come across this.  You probably don't care, because your account is likely a purchased one, but you're going to ruin your reputation.   And you're being a cunt.

OP, hate to say it but you should have used escrow.

[Vongola]

Hahahah

Why are you laughing? Do you admit what OP told is true? Return OP's money right now (Although i doubt you will listen to me)

[hermanhs09]

Hahahah

Well, you lousy scammer.

It's sad to see how people will scam for 0.012 BTC which is $15.

It's almost like a competition these days, who is able to scam the least out of all of them.

[ibminer]

It sounds to me like the original agreement was to convert the entire psd document into html, did he do this?  What did he provide?

[kleineaap]

Hahahah

Why are you laughing? Do you admit what OP told is true? Return OP's money right now (Although i doubt you will listen to me)

I'm laughing because he's full of bullshit.

[kleineaap]

It sounds to me like the original agreement was to convert the entire psd document into html, did he do this?  What did he provide?

Yes I did. OP refused to pay. Instead decided to open this accusation thread.

Why don't you post all screenshots OP?

https://i.imgur.com/KVltuCJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/eg5FOiD.png
https://i.imgur.com/XgbcFuS.png
https://i.imgur.com/MaSzXFK.png
https://i.imgur.com/Pprhi7v.png
https://i.imgur.com/J7VrAkE.png

You people need a little bit critical thinking. So I am scamming for $15 ? Haha
Listen to all parties involved before taking sides.

Op called me newbie indian coder  hahah my sides! 

[AdolfinWolf]

It sounds to me like the original agreement was to convert the entire psd document into html, did he do this?  What did he provide?

Yes I did. OP refused to pay. Instead decided to open this accusation thread.

Why don't you post all screenshots OP?








You people need a little bit critical thinking. So I am scamming for $15 ? Haha
Listen to all parties involved before taking sides.

Op called me newbie indian coder  hahah my sides! 

Well maybe because of the way you reacted? You act as if this is some banter, but this guy is accusing you of scamming him, which is a growing issue in this community..

If you would've just acted a bit more professional, but no, you laughed about it, i guess that is a reason why some people already sided with boy130, and also, i don't think any DT2 member has taken a side yet, they just informed and tagged you.


What i don't understand is why "Kleineaap" would scam someone for 15$, meanwhile his account is already worth triple that amount.



Quoting you for your screenshots aswell.

[ibminer]

It sounds to me like the original agreement was to convert the entire psd document into html, did he do this?  What did he provide?

Yes I did. OP refused to pay. Instead decided to open this accusation thread.

Why don't you post all screenshots OP?

https://i.imgur.com/KVltuCJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/eg5FOiD.png
https://i.imgur.com/XgbcFuS.png
https://i.imgur.com/MaSzXFK.png
https://i.imgur.com/Pprhi7v.png
https://i.imgur.com/J7VrAkE.png

You people need a little bit critical thinking. So I am scamming for $15 ? Haha
Listen to all parties involved before taking sides.

Op called me newbie indian coder  hahah my sides! 

There still appear to be missing parts of this conversation but, regardless, the OP asked you to provide an HTML version of the PSD. Your screenshots prove that you did not provide this, you provided different versions that were similar looking but nowhere near the same. I have no idea why you have an issue creating this, I assume you just do not know how to use the slice tool in photoshop or are using some type of HTML generator that requires a specific template?

I'm surprised your choosing to break a deal over such a small amount but you are certainly not being professional and it appears to me that you are not providing the work that was agreed to. Based on your original agreement and the screenshots you provided, the OP seems to have a legitimate reason to be upset.

[kleineaap]

Do you now realize why I don't move an inch to people like this?
Now he made a scam accusation against me haha although I have his files ready for weeks - he just refused to pay them.
I was laughing in this thread because this is such a bullshit excuse  and attempt of bullying.


And recently I heard more from him:

If anyone here besides this joke of a member believes I scammed anyone for 7 dollars... damn, you're all fucked.
I did my job (although it took longer I admit), was refused payment and called a scammer.
Now just check his atittude against "this user" for leaving him negative feedback:


SCREENSHOTS:






That's all folks. With my negative trrust or not, I am in no way regretful of any of my actions.
Judge for yourselves.

Conclusion: Never make any deal with guys like this.

[Lauda]

Do you now realize why I don't move an inch to people like this?
Now he made a scam accusation against me haha although I have his files ready for weeks - he just refused to pay them.
I was laughing in this thread because this is such a bullshit excuse  and attempt of bullying.

I don't think I understand what exactly happened in this deal/has gone wrong. Mind elaborating in a tl;dr: way?

If anyone here besides this joke of a member believes I scammed anyone for 7 dollars... damn, you're all fucked.

If you think that people here don't scam for $7, then you are gravely uninformed.

That's all folks. With my negative trrust or not, I am in no way regretful of any of my actions.
Judge for yourselves.

That's not the right stance to take here. If you are right, then this should resolve in a 180 degree turn.

[ibminer]

The job: Convert PSD into an HTML page

The PSD from the OP



The initial designs sent back to OP as shown in the original PM screenshots are:






This was posted after the OP: https://i.imgur.com/XgbcFuS.png
Which is closer in appearance, but doesn't appear to be a PM to me, different text/font/etc than the others.

Recent PMs posted are again missing information, why aren't people willing to post the full story and stop chopping up PMs?

My opinion is based on the screenshots I've seen above on the original accusation. The PM's in the OP show that after the initial design  screenshots I've displayed above were sent, the buyer asked to have his money/deposit back because the designs did not look the same, which they didn't, and I would have been upset receiving that message with those screenshots.

IF the screenshot that was posted after the OP can be verified, I might change my opinion here because that screenshot is a much closer resemblance, but again, doesn't look like a PM and appears completely different than the other screenshots that kleineaap posted.

Again, the slice tool should have taken care of this.

[sakkosekk]

How sr member can scam for 15 bucks?

[kleineaap]

That's all folks. With my negative trrust or not, I am in no way regretful of any of my actions.
Judge for yourselves.

That's not the right stance to take here. If you are right, then this should resolve in a 180 degree turn.

Hey Lauda, I've done enough to clean my name. I have not scammed anyone nor will I ever will. We have here a disturbed and angry individual that started this soap opera.
People with minimal common sense skills can see what is up here. I won't waste my energy fighting trolling - since it's endless.
IMO, the ones that create scam accusations like this must have irrefutable proof and be pre-approved before posting. This is way beyond the case.

People like drama. I get it. But I won't feed it further.