kerhac
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May 18, 2013, 03:54:04 PM |
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If i understand well, this is a example for understand this web and pool. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkAA7sO8gBiFdE95Vk5WUlJ1MFJOZG5kanhHS01yeUE&usp=sharingIn summary, if you mining 2,24771001 btc on the pool with a virtual miner (from haspack) and you sent to adress, you get 1,977984809 btc. 3% virtual miner is 0,0674313, 4% fee pool 0,0899084 and 5% Reinvest (min) 0,112385501. Total fee for hasrack.com 0,157339701 btc. I think is better get the Mining hardware for you and starting mining in your pool that sell it in haspack
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May 18, 2013, 05:04:40 PM |
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I'm really interested in this.
So to get it straight, you pay them BTC, and then they'll configure it to mine for you at the hash rate you've purchased and you'll get payments from the mining your purchased hardware has done? Is this incorrect?
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May 18, 2013, 05:30:25 PM |
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Okay what I am unsure of is this renting hashpower. Which I am familiar with, or is this just waiting until ASIC are recieved and praying they come and if not your screwed.
Like the website layout just a little weary to buy anything until I know for sure. Is a setup already up and running continually upgraded, or is this just a lets kinda hope kinda thing.
Just curious, anyone can answer. P.S. I know this thread is 11 pages so if someone already answered feel free to quote.
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tom_o
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May 18, 2013, 05:31:12 PM |
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I'm really interested in this.
So to get it straight, you pay them BTC, and then they'll configure it to mine for you at the hash rate you've purchased and you'll get payments from the mining your purchased hardware has done? Is this incorrect?
No you pay them, then they order ASICs and wait. And then eventually yes what you say is correct, when the ASICs arrive. Okay what I am unsure of is this renting hashpower. Which I am familiar with, or is this just waiting until ASIC are recieved and praying they come and if not your screwed.
Like the website layout just a little weary to buy anything until I know for sure. Is a setup already up and running continually upgraded, or is this just a lets kinda hope kinda thing.
Just curious, anyone can answer. P.S. I know this thread is 11 pages so if someone already answered feel free to quote.
No hashing yet, that's why people are asking for refunds as the ASICs are BFL. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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btchaver
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May 19, 2013, 06:58:01 PM |
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So how long will the wait for BFL be with all the per-orders stacking up for hashpacks, don't you have any other means of mining hardware to at least start delivering on the per-orders made already.
We are contacting others manufacturers (Block Erupter), as some sugest, as another "type" of hashpacks, obviously the price and the hashrate will not be the same as well as the delivery dates. What about my refund you have not replied to my post am i being ignored? Send us an email (or by using our contact form ), if you already did that, you should receive an email with the request information. I sent an email and waiting for reply for refund. Please reply with instructions. Waiting for a refund
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cp1
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May 19, 2013, 07:30:16 PM |
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I'm really interested in this.
So to get it straight, you pay them BTC, and then they'll configure it to mine for you at the hash rate you've purchased and you'll get payments from the mining your purchased hardware has done? Is this incorrect?
Yes that's true, but there will be at least 5 months between you paying them BTC and them mining for you. Just go order from BFL.
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btchaver
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May 21, 2013, 02:01:33 PM |
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So how long will the wait for BFL be with all the per-orders stacking up for hashpacks, don't you have any other means of mining hardware to at least start delivering on the per-orders made already.
We are contacting others manufacturers (Block Erupter), as some sugest, as another "type" of hashpacks, obviously the price and the hashrate will not be the same as well as the delivery dates. What about my refund you have not replied to my post am i being ignored? Send us an email (or by using our contact form ), if you already did that, you should receive an email with the request information. I sent an email and waiting for reply for refund. Please reply with instructions. Waiting for a refund Please refund or with instructions i have sent an email with your form on your website requesting a refund four days ago is there a refund or are you just keeping peoples money?
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btchaver
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May 22, 2013, 05:04:52 AM |
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I would like a refund please return my money i paid i have filled outyour form and asked you repetedly on this post please refund as soon as possible.
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btchaver
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May 22, 2013, 05:11:10 AM |
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THese people are not refunding my money after 4-5 attempts at asking for a refund i am still waiting. WHen am i going to get a refund am still waiting are you ever going to refund my money?
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btchaver
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May 22, 2013, 05:11:42 AM |
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Just sold the first 4 Hashpacks
3 -> 500Mh/s 1 -> 5Gh/s
Theres is some orders in On-Way Phase this means, we pre-order some ASIC units before, this is a plus.
Do you ever reply to your refunds!
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btchaver
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May 22, 2013, 05:14:39 AM |
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7GH/s in the first ~5 hours, makes me think twice.
So your selling us the rigs ?? till it breaks ? and running it on your side ?? asking for 2466$ for the 50 GHZ ASIC ?? Yeah supposedly they ordered asics and are selling the hash power so they are buying the rigs with your money and when they get them in which is the million dollar qiestion then you have already paid for their units and they get a percentage of it but in the mean time you are left waiting for their units to arrive so they can get your percentage of the hashes you paid for and im still waiting for a refund after 4 attempts they are ignoring me. Totally lame.
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btchaver
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May 22, 2013, 05:34:54 AM |
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its bfl ... and dont do it Please respond to either my email, or my post here... you've been online, and ignored me that makes 2 of us....id rather be buying avalon chips than wait for bfl... can I get a refund too please here is my request, as sent via your contact form on the site :- Hi, As ive discovered from bitcointalk forum, your hashpacks are to be from BFL hardware, Id like to request a refund of 0.4412 BTC
I feel BFL are a scam, and deserve the scam tag that is hopefully going to be placed on them, and as such I do not wish to participate in sending them any BTC.
I feel you should have stated at somepoint/someplace, that these hashpacks were based on BFL, as Id not have sent any BTC.
I you had gone for Avalon, or evan KNC, Id have waited......BUT NOT for BFL...
Please refund back into the sending address on my account...
Regards Evilscoop We just send you an email I would also like my refund for this same exact reason becuase i know that bfl is gauging its inventory and its going to be a long long wait before you ever get your bfl im pretty shure i was not under the impression that you were using bfl now that i have found out and know how long its going to take i would also like a refund not to mention there is nowhere on your site stating there is a no refund policy. A refund would be appreciated.
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May 22, 2013, 08:06:16 PM |
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Hopefulyl they've probably taken your money (and mine) and placed another order with BFL so getting a refund might be tricky. I'm happy to wait, but we should be kept updated or it begins to look a lot like a scam. Anyway, here's their contact details (via whois) :- 2stripes.org Ivan Jaramillo ( ivan@2stripes.org) Cra 20A #187 - 51 1020731896 Bogota Distrito Capltalde Santa Fede Bogotã,5716718683 CO Tel. +571.6718683 So you could try his email address or telephone number.
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May 23, 2013, 02:14:42 AM |
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This is a scam because if you could make a profit from it it would meaning the service providers are making less money selling the hardware to you, than mining with it. Who would do that?
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cp1
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May 23, 2013, 04:04:26 AM |
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This is a scam because if you could make a profit from it it would meaning the service providers are making less money selling the hardware to you, than mining with it. Who would do that?
Not if they don't have the capital to purchase the hardware.
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May 23, 2013, 08:47:22 AM |
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I've read some explanations about this service. But I got some doubts of its operation.
I have to have hardware mining? If you buy a hashpacks, I will be renting a mining equipment for me? How long does a purchase?
Thanks for the answers.
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May 23, 2013, 08:11:27 PM |
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So...it's time for a scammer tag?
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May 23, 2013, 10:00:23 PM |
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So...it's time for a scammer tag?
I do not see any valid argument.
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pkarc (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 10:03:38 PM |
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its bfl ... and dont do it Please respond to either my email, or my post here... you've been online, and ignored me that makes 2 of us....id rather be buying avalon chips than wait for bfl... can I get a refund too please here is my request, as sent via your contact form on the site :- Hi, As ive discovered from bitcointalk forum, your hashpacks are to be from BFL hardware, Id like to request a refund of 0.4412 BTC
I feel BFL are a scam, and deserve the scam tag that is hopefully going to be placed on them, and as such I do not wish to participate in sending them any BTC.
I feel you should have stated at somepoint/someplace, that these hashpacks were based on BFL, as Id not have sent any BTC.
I you had gone for Avalon, or evan KNC, Id have waited......BUT NOT for BFL...
Please refund back into the sending address on my account...
Regards Evilscoop We just send you an email I would also like my refund for this same exact reason becuase i know that bfl is gauging its inventory and its going to be a long long wait before you ever get your bfl im pretty shure i was not under the impression that you were using bfl now that i have found out and know how long its going to take i would also like a refund not to mention there is nowhere on your site stating there is a no refund policy. A refund would be appreciated. Your refund is being processed.
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pkarc (OP)
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May 23, 2013, 10:09:47 PM |
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I've read some explanations about this service. But I got some doubts of its operation.
I have to have hardware mining?
You can mine with your mining hardware, this is a pool too. If you buy a hashpacks, I will be renting a mining equipment for me?
you are buying a part of a hardware that we purchase, its like a group buy. you are sharing a machine with others. How long does a purchase?
Its one-time payment, and long until it's inoperable.
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